posted January 07, 2009 04:04 PM           

Now Libra Suns on the other hand are not too keen on honesty, especially the men!

posted January 07, 2009 04:39 PM           

Geminis are much better liars than leos, so are aqua's, matter of fact I have known libra's and cappy's to make up some huge type stuff and just tell it as true. Aries are the biggest bullshitters I ever met, mosty to promote themselves.

Your statements are so very general. If a black man stole from me, would I then say, why do black men all steal? Would that be right? Would that be fair? I don't think so.

ANd of course the two leo's chimed right in that think they are somehow better than other leo's for whatever reason. Thier moon or something. nothing personal libralove, I still like you.

posted January 07, 2009 04:54 PM           

i haven't made out im a better leo than any other leo, i simply felt missneptune was implying all other leo's are ego-centrics unless they have pisces moon, which is rubbish., so how on earth am i, by feeling that way, implying im better than any other leo's? in any case, it doesn't really matter what you think i was implying, i know i wasn't implying im better than anyone, i just didn't like being labled a 'typical ego-centric leo' because i don't have pisces moon, and that statement in its self is egotistical about ones self.

as for liars, i don't think sun signs are the most potent way of making a good liar, its probably aspects.

im a very honest person, and i also obsecure the truth a lot.

but anyway.. charlie, any sign can be a liar, you can't generalize leo's based on 1 when theres millions of each sign amongst eachother.

posted January 07, 2009 06:11 PM         

Does exaggeration and tall stories count as straying from the truth? A Lion of my close acquaintance would be offended at the suggestion of being anything other than strictly truthful. However, in the urge to be proved right, the person who knows what's best, etc.

I don't think we can fairly castigate a 12th of the world as being prone to untruths.

The figure is far larger.

posted January 07, 2009 11:02 PM         

Anyway, as a Leo Sun/Cancer Moon, I make it a practice to be honest all the time. I don't mean blunt, rude, or hurtful--but the daily practice of satya. I try to be honest with myself, even when it's really scary or hard.

posted January 08, 2009 12:44 AM         

probably the qn shld be wht kind of lies, and in which way, and in what cicumstances different signs will lie

sorry i find such qns which simply ask to assign a very basic human behavior to signs to be v naive

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asc/sun/moon: Capricon/leo/libra

posted January 08, 2009 05:42 AM           

and it felt like you were implying that your pisces moon makes you a better leo because it 'deflates' your ego for you, that statement its self was quite egotistic, its not the first time for you either lol...

posted January 08, 2009 02:09 PM           

Concerning your question: I have come close to many Leos (especially Leo-guys) in my life - I met different kinds of Leos - also one awful liar amongst them. (Funny thing: The liar openly and "honetsly" admitted to be liar ... which made things even more absurd...)

Guess I understand what you want to say - that no Sun-sign alone can determine whether a person is determined to be a liar or cheater or not.... I believe, really everyone can be. But I guess, each Sun sign might carry its own motivation/reason for lying. For Leos ... maybe one could say ... they'd do anything to glamourize themselves, to gain and protect their "number one"-rank on the center of the stage, they' d rather apply lies in order to appear "interrsting" than they'd risk to come up as "dull" or "boring" (this would be their greatest fear).

Other star signs would have other motivations for lying, maybe. Like: Cancers to protect their emotional turf, Libras to evade any discussion, etc...

In my own experience: Strong aspects between natal Sun and/or Mercury to natal Neptune are indeed an indicator for ... say ... having a creative approach to truth, honesty and reality;-) Not always is the lying well done with these folks, sometimes it is easy to detrace. I've come to know a few people with their Suns/Mercurys squaring their own Neptune ... and they have been really helpless liars, in different ways. Sometimes they desperately believed in their own lies ... not necessarily with a bad intention behind that - just: dreamers who refuse to see and tell it as it is.

My recommendation would be: If you meet someone whose Sun and/or Mercury is cj., opposed or square their own Neptune, beware, be careful - and just take everything with a grain of salt. These people cannot trust themselves, really - neither can you trust them to 100%. One must learn to "read" these people properly.

Also I must add that Libran influence ... doesn't really help, as far as honesty goes. Too much "wishy washy" going on here (at least for my taste), extreme evasiveness - something one must be willing and able to cope with - Libras: So tyring - you ALWAYS must read "between the lines", they are NEVER open, in my experience. This goes for Libra-Mars especially.

posted January 08, 2009 03:25 PM           

I was thinking that a deflated ego has to do with not feeling comfortable with oneself especially the Leo energies, when let's for example one has a water Moon. I know someone else that has Pisces Sun and Asc., but she also has Aries Moon, she comes off very Pisces like, but than will suddenly have these outbursts of Aries qualities, anyways my point being that it seems like it takes longer to adjust to let's say a Fire Sun with a Water Moon.

But what seems to be more apparent is when someone has two very different elements or signs for the Sun and Asc., because it seems like others can more visibly see the contrasts between the two.

posted January 08, 2009 11:17 PM         

I've noticed this too.

"i dont think lying has anthing to do with any sign...its a moral value....why shld it be a function of any sign?"

I actually do think that, whatever their intentions, different sun signs face different moral challenges. To put it sweepingly, the Fire signs have to be careful not to be arrogant, the Water signs have to be careful not to be manipulative, the Air signs have to be careful not to be unreliable, and the Earth signs have to be careful not to be a drag.