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hikoro
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posted January 09, 2009 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hikoro     Edit/Delete Message
Are Virgos followers of the status quo/conservatives? Do they rather go along with what the community says instead of being more individualistic?

I am a mulatta (scorpio) dating a Virgo from the Balkans. So, it is an interracial/cultural/ethnic relationship.
We have been dating since August of last year but imo, there is no future for us.
I don’t think we will ever become a couple.
Balkan people can be pretty conservative when it comes to dating outside of the group.

His friends and family know about me. His friends are fine with it, but mom thinks that I just want to have a child by him and get all of his money. Oy vey!
I think that “what the family and community would say” prevents him from taking the next step.

What I wonder is, does his reluctance have to do mostly with his zodiac sign (Virgos being conservatives)?
I have been with other Eastern Europeans and they did not care about what the family or the community would say…unless Balkan people are just more traditional than the rest.

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evander
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posted January 09, 2009 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for evander     Edit/Delete Message
Balcan males are exactly that Balcan. Most of them are mommy's boys, they are pretty hard core conservative but only when it suits them. It's not really a virgo thing. There are shades of grey in it though. So depending on the exact ethnicity, parents education... it might not be so bad.

And there's probably alot other things that factor into it. So ...

best of luck, if its meant to be it'll be

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posted January 09, 2009 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
I think this cuts across all signs, communities and ethnic groups.

My husband is older than me, was married before and we are from different countries, and social backgrounds. I think my mother still secretly hopes I will dump him and marry the local poacher.

How much is an impossible barrier and how much is an excuse?

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hikoro
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posted January 09, 2009 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hikoro     Edit/Delete Message
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So depending on the exact ethnicity, parents education... it might not be so bad.

He is a Bosnian Serb.
I don't know much about the parents' education.
Now, I don't think he is a momma's boy at all. They don't have a close-bonding relationship.

But for being a Bosnian Serb, he sure is more progressive compared to the other ones I have met.

Any thoughts?

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evander
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posted January 09, 2009 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for evander     Edit/Delete Message
get on mom's good side, would be your best chance. express ur admiration for orthodox customs. (serbs have some unique ones)

stick around, and they will accept you when they see you are serious about him. serbs are hospitable generally. then again people in cities are very different from those coming from small towns. those in small towns much more exposed to gossip and peer pressure especially if they are uneducated.

some moms are always like bm's so ....

talk it out maybe? there's no way to be absolutly sure about these things

chhers

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Dulce Luna
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posted January 09, 2009 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message
I've seen this same thing happen with so many people across many different sun signs, making it a cultural issue and not astrological. A second cousin of mine married an Italian man and it took forever for her family to finally accept it. Unfortunate, but a bitter reality.

I believe that while he may care for you very much, he's probably very close to his family and does not want to alienate them by going against traditional norm. In essence; he's torn. Solution? It's up to him IMO. You could try and show his mother that her perception of you is wrong but the bottom line is: If you don't feel that your virgo will ever take the next step because of he cares what other people think then I don't think I would wait around, unfortunately.

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posted January 09, 2009 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for good girl     Edit/Delete Message
I have never been in your type of situation, but I have virgo rising. I think virgos prefer to follow the rules.
However no on is purely virgo and nothing else, so there may be other factors in the chart that over ride this.

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posted January 10, 2009 02:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgOh     Edit/Delete Message
This is by Linda Goodman:

"The one quality of fairy tale romance about Virgo is that, if he's genuinely in love, he will wait for years to claim his true mate, or travel over a thousand mountains to bring her home to his hearth. He's capable of enormous sacrifice in the pursuit of that one dainty foot he's discovered will fit the glass slipper. There's no denying that the flame is strong, once it's been kindled. It's almost impossible to extinguish it. You'll be as eternally adored as Cinderella herself. The trick, I suppose, is in the original kindling. It's a rare foot that fits his glass slipper. Virgo is enormously particular."

Is he a mama's boy? Does he depend on his family and still takes his allowance from them? Is he independent? Does he have his own job? Does he live alone? Does he hint to you that he takes his mother's opinion seriously?

Contrary to what the other's had said: Yes although Virgo tends to be more conservative yet they are rebels when it comes to their own ideals and standards so it depends on the individual and what they believe at heart.

At age 19 "I am so sick of repeating this story" I left my family in the Middle east and came to America to be with my Sag girlfriend although they were totally against it and despite the fact that I was the only son "No brothers or sisters" I sacrificed it all because I thought this is the one but I was wrong and we broke up, regardless, I still followed what I believed against their wishes and I am the biggest "Mama's boy" out there lol and I am sure you've heard about Middle Eastern culture and mainly family values, as a Virgo all of that didn't mean jack to me.

By the way I haven't seen my mom and dad eversince I left the Mid East in 94, this year I am going back Does that tell you something?

It depends on the person, but try to answer my questions and connect the dots then reach the conclusion and make up your mind once and for all.

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posted January 10, 2009 12:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I can't speak for other Virgos but this is a case of needing to look at the whole chart. I've actually noticed in general with myself and other Virgos that we may appear to follow the status quo, but we secretly rebel in some way or multiple ways. It's sort of a game some Virgos play, I suppose.

And me, I only follow the status quo/conservative at work, and this is more likely to be due to having a 6th house Saturn and Cap MC. The rest of me is a rebel, especially in relationships and family, and I do not at all care what my society or parents expectations are - I'm a Virgo with a strong 7th house Uranus in Sag, opposing and squaring a bunch of planets, and conjunct my 7th house Mars.

So I also think it is a cultural thing, but I think it takes anyone with some strong Uranus/Aqua or Jupiter/Sag traits to break out of the cultural mold. Plus, when it comes to culture, in my case I'm an American and I don't really have a culture to follow.

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tatyh
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posted January 11, 2009 03:03 AM           Edit/Delete Message
I was in the same position as you except he wants a woman with money and I do not have it. My experience has taught me to not be so shallow, he may look good on the outside, but the inside was pretty disappointing.

His family pretended to like me until he got into a medical school (in Antigua that accepted everyone). Then him and his family pretty much wanted me to leave him alone which I can only assume that they thought he "moved up" and so he could discard me. They may be friendly and pretend to like you by I even had an Albanian co-worker warn me about the whole mama's boy thing. She told me that I was never accepted by his family no matter how much they pretended to. My co-worker knew this because her own mother made her son dump an American girl and found him a nice Albanian girl to be engaged to.

Our relationship might have worked out if he wasn't so interested in money and ego (even though he denies all this). Also, they aren't afraid that you want him for his money, they probably think all women want their son for their money. I remember my significant other telling me that he could always dump me and go to Bosnia to find the most beautiful woman there... because she's looking for a green card. I'm not against interracial/cultural/social/economic love, I'm all for it, but now I am more wary and realistic.

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VirgOh
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posted January 11, 2009 03:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgOh     Edit/Delete Message
I dont know if it's worth being in a relation with a beautiful woman who is only with you to get a green card lol

I'd love to do something like this, have her stick around for 4 years to get a green card then dump her sorry A** one week before she gets it hahahahahah.

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posted January 11, 2009 03:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
That would be your Scorpio moon talking, VirgOh

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VirgOh
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posted January 11, 2009 03:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgOh     Edit/Delete Message
I'd love to see the shock on someone's face after doing that to them lol OMG I'd be ROFLMAO.

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posted January 11, 2009 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vivid_child     Edit/Delete Message
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I'd love to see the shock on someone's face after doing that to them lol OMG I'd be ROFLMAO.

That's mean

I definitely do not go along with the status quo and am often ridiculed and overlooked because of it. I'm not sure if this is actually to do with my chart though, rather I just do not agree with the way the world works at present :/

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hikoro
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posted January 12, 2009 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hikoro     Edit/Delete Message
VirgOh

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Is he a mama's boy? Does he depend on his family and still takes his allowance from them? Is he independent? Does he have his own job? Does he live alone? Does he hint to you that he takes his mother's opinion seriously?

He does live with his parents and although he has a job…he does live with his parents. In terms of taking his mother’s opinion seriously…not at all.
His mom is very critical of him and puts him down. His family is also very dramatic. His father, mom and brother are all LEOS and he tells me that he feels he lives in a nuthouse. He just wishes they would move back to Bosnia and leave him alone.

These Bosnians are definitely very closed-knitted but mmm….he presented me to his brother. I don’t know if that is the norm or if it means something.

There are other underlying issues, such as the fact that he got burned by his ex-girlfriend (who happened to be from Bosnia), and his mom loved her only because of that fact.

He is very afraid of getting hurt and is still sorting things out.

Tatyh

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I remember my significant other telling me that he could always dump me and go to Bosnia to find the most beautiful woman there... because she's looking for a green card. I'm not against interracial/cultural/social/economic love, I'm all for it, but now I am more wary and realistic.

Your story sounds painful. As I said, we are not boyfriend and girlfriend and I already told him, “I know I will never be your girlfriend”….
It was me being realistic to him. My moon and ASC are in Taurus and he has a Virgo moon.

Folks, I don’t feel as if I am waiting either. We both enjoy what we have.
I just don’t understand, if he does not see (I don’t know this) any future happening between us, then why is he with me?
That is a question I want to ask him….should I take the risk?

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VirgOh
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posted January 12, 2009 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgOh     Edit/Delete Message
Maybe the sex is good.

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hikoro
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posted January 13, 2009 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hikoro     Edit/Delete Message
Oy....

Not what you always want to hear...But, would a Virgo hang around just because of good sex?

There is a part of me that wants to corner him with the question (see previous post) but I don't want to seem too annoying or insecure.

Every time we are together, there is such an emotional compatibility where we both feel secure. I have asked him if it is only the sex before and he has told me 'no'.

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