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MyVirgoMask
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posted January 13, 2009 04:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
I woke up with that thought in my head. It made me laugh, but it's kind of sad.
I don't have the energy to write creatively, or draw, or do anything artistic, even tho it's my livelihood.
I don't even write in my journal anymore, it's like I'm giving myself the silent treatment. I just don't feel I have anything worthwhile to say to myself.
I think I'm having a hard time recovering from the energy that was taken from me from before my divorce. I gave so much of myself on so many levels. My ex-husband called me up recently to tell me that he had wanted me to fly for both of us. That my creativity and sense of 'freedom' and energy was what he loved about me. But those were the things he said made him jealous eventually (Saturn sq. Sun, btw). I found myself giving so much of myself on every level to him that I was too exhausted to give to myself anymore(Scorpio 7th house cusp, Neptune in the 7th too).
I eventually left because, as I told him, "I promised 'til death do us part, and at this point, it's either I die or you die. And I can't afford to hate myself anymore than this, so I will probably have to kill you if I don't divorce you now."
Pluto was squaring my Sun tightly around that time, for about a year, transiting my 8th. Saturn was squaring my Venus. Every time he touched me, I wanted to throw up.
I know it sounds awful, but I feel like I've been robbed of my vitality. I am not an pessimistic person by nature, can usually tap into my higher self and be positive. But I feel like I am in a rut. Cannot express myself creatively and it's driving me crazy. I want to move and I can't seem to raise the money.
Saturn conjunct my Sun exactly right now, until August. Uranus also opposes my sun.
And Uranus and Saturn in general are opposing each other. I have no idea what to do.
Pluto square Pluto....and it's at -2 degrees...what fun will it bring when it gets closer, I wonder?
I'm tired all the time. I sleep at the strangest times. I can hardly work, and when I do it feels fruitless. I feel as though no matter how hard I try, everything I do is fruitless and empty and like there is a huge void in my life. And I don't even know how to fill the void anymore.

Sorry to ramble.
I just have no idea what to do, or even what to ask, besides, What the hell is going on. I know this is not all astrology obviously, but the astrology is reflecting a lot of my emotional state. I'm having a lame Jupiter Return and it's so stupid. Nothing is happening. My clients like me more, which I am very grateful for, but it's like everything feels like it's in a state of constipation.
Kind of gross to say, but that's the best way I can describe it.
Is there anyone else on here going through something like this????

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Iqhunk
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posted January 13, 2009 04:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message
This is a state of ennui. The real cause is not merely astrological but because of living in denial of one's spirituality inspite of having the potential to be spiritually aware.

You should see the movie "Matrix", a dialogue where Morpheus taunts Neo saying "You think that is air you are breathing?"

So you think this physical existence is the only life?

You have like 20+ incarnations belonging to different races and epocuhs in the history of Earth Timeline 1 itself. There are 7 Earth Timelines. We have dozens of other existences as human and alien and astral in various timelines across galaxies in the multiple Universes. I should know because I have seen and relived many of them!

All these experiential riches belong to your Soul, and you are starving it in this current lifeline by being unaware of its richness.

In one way, the silent treatment is necessary, you can use it to just meditate very deeply, sensing every part of your body with as much awareness as you can. That is when you will feel your chakras. Deep sleep after this may show you some past lives/future lives too.

Sensing your spinal base with awareness while imagining golden energy enter your body through the crown chakra will give you more energy than what you though you had in your entire life.

God, our Higher Self and our Soul, never face economic recession, the spiritual energy is infinite. Just try channeling with a focused attitude, it will work wonders for you. Your paintings will also come alive in a few days of these exercises.

Cheers!

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MyVirgoMask
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posted January 13, 2009 04:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks IQ.
I'm most certainly aware that physical existence is not all. I am meditating more these days and my awareness is turned more inward, shedding awareness on certain things.

The Matrix has always been a favorite

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good girl
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posted January 13, 2009 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for good girl     Edit/Delete Message
How is your relationship with your father?

Being tired all the time is a sign of depression. And depression is usually a sign of anger turned inward (sorry to sound like I'm always talking about anger).

Saturn conj sun could bring a depression.

And looking at your natal chart, prehaps it isn't all about your husband, maybe you have an undealt with issue regarding your father.

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sunshine_lion
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posted January 13, 2009 11:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message
don't be so hard on yourself. you are wonderful, smart, beautiful and you can cook. think of it as re evolving yourself. cacoon time, when finished cacooning, new beautiful butterfly emerges. We all need a little down time sometimes to regroup and reemerge. everything isn't your fault, and no one has to die! . you will come out of this better than ever.

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MyVirgoMask
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posted January 13, 2009 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Nah, good girl, I just dealt with my father. It's cool. I went and saw him after 23 years of not seeing him, and got to the bottom of a long story, and it's sorted out. He can't really be in my life the way a father is 'supposed' to, but I am alright with it - I've dealt with this many, many times already. Daddy issues have been faced. Not a perfect ending, but I got closure, and for that I am happy.

Anger? Well, I get angry from time to time, sure. It's the depression from the lack of inspiration. I think I'm lonely, actually. Pretty isolated at the moment, and have to wait to move. That's what's driving me bats*it crazy

Thanks, good girl I'll be okay, I just have these random moments of 'Where the hell am I, and who am I again?" LOL.
And I am grateful to have access to God and whatever guides that surround me, including here

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MyVirgoMask
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posted January 13, 2009 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Sunshine, you're s sweet, thank you.

On another note, I made steak and Bearnaise sauce the other day and thought of you

That's the problem, I don't have friends to cook for! All my friends are all over the place in different states!
I want to a good man to cook for too. Someone I could feed. God, how freakin' DOMESTIC does that sound

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posted January 13, 2009 11:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message
I know, it must be unsettleing the move part. I think once you get that taken care of you will feel better right away. It is a stagnant feeling that seems stifling when we have to wait for the next chapter to come. Depression and lack of energy and feeling like a failure? been there done that, divorce is hard and i felt EXACTLY like that. But you are a butterfly, and feeling the itch to get on with things...hopefully soon, is a good sign.. I will be thinking about you. You have a new adventure on the way!

I want comfort food now, we could get a ton of sushi, some saki, sit and talk about what a jackass he is until we are stuffed and happy and I would help you pack and plan. I do seriously wish I could be there for you. Real friends to talk to are sometimes hard to find and never seem to really understand anyway.

my promise is this, it will get better.

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Got Gemini?
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posted January 13, 2009 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message
MVM, I like your energy and vibe. Try to be strong and hang in there. Try not to be too hard on yourself. I know it sounds silly but try thinking of only positive thougts for a couple of hours, I bet that will raise your spirits dramatically.

If you want to talk, my email is gotgemini@gmail.com
Hope you feel better.

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Gemini Sun 24˚
Libra Moon 14˚(conjunct Pluto 0˚ in 2nd house)
Gemini Mercury 25˚
Cancer Venus 29˚
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MyVirgoMask
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posted January 13, 2009 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
AH! Sunshine, you read my mind girl! I totally need some sashimi and sake right about now! It sounds wonderful .
I just can't wait to get moved out to CA...I miss it!! Thanks for all the kindness, I really appreciate it

Gotgemini, thank you also, and I'll remember to email if things get really bad
I do try to be positive. Actually, I don't always try, I am lucky that it comes to me on its own, and hate that I have to try for it sometimes...I guess I'm just being lazy lol...but yes, the stagnation of being in a place I really dislike and which offers nothing in the way of creative community does not help at all.

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Azalaksh
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posted January 13, 2009 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
MVM ~

It appears to me that you're being too hard on yourself
We don't expect a car to run without a battery and without gas to run the engine.
But it seems that's what you're expecting of yourself. So you try to push that car, and it's really heavy and you get tired of pushing. Perhaps you might be letting the *shoulds* get the better of you -- those pestiferous little expectations that whisper to you all the time that you SHOULD BE DOING SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE!!!

MVM, I think you need some time for yourself. As cheerful as you are here at LL, I still sense this element of you barely having enough energy to get you thru your days. You were totally drained when you departed your marriage, and it takes time to build your endurance/stamina back up.

A lot of people consider Saturn conjunct Sun to be depression. I don't find it so, I have it natally -- I think it's more a matter of being more serious and sober about how you want to spend your life energies, and structure exactly how you want to distribute your self-expression or interactions with others.

Young people burn the candle at both ends, both because life can be new and exciting, and just because they CAN
It takes longer to recoup those spent energies when you get older, even though you still believe you can recover as quickly as you did at 21

I feel this is a time for MVM to spoil and smother MVM in all kinds of sensual, visual, emotional and spiritual pleasures. Read, walk in the park, take long bubble baths, burn fabulous candles and just sit in front of them and meditate -- no seeking out the Muse yet, that will come when your batteries are recharged.

Z

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praecipua
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posted January 13, 2009 02:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message
zala ,

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being more serious and sober about how you want to spend your life energies, and structure exactly how you want to distribute your self-expression or interactions with others.

i need to thank u for telling me that i overstepped the mark regarding fist. thanks

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posted January 13, 2009 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
leaving a marriage takes a lot of energy. even when it is what you wanted...

the silent treatment is probably perfect. this too will pass...but these "down" times are like chrysalis periods. prepare to be more creative than ever soon!..

and congratulations it sounds like you left a bit of a vampire! some red wine perhaps??

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FistOfLegend
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posted January 13, 2009 05:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message
At least you know you tried.

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Azalaksh
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posted January 13, 2009 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
prae ~

I love the Leonine passion, but occasionally it gets away from us..... it's OK

Zala

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MVM ~

How're ya feeling tonite??

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leapinglemur14
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posted January 13, 2009 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for leapinglemur14     Edit/Delete Message
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Every time he touched me, I wanted to throw up.

i know exactly how that feels my heart goes out to you. I'm mentally hugging you (since i can't in person)

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MyVirgoMask
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posted January 14, 2009 02:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks, Fist You're a sweetheart (whether or not you think so )

Zala thank you too. You're so right about how tired I am. I am exhausted and keep trying to push myself and it's not working, which has frustrated me. So I'm just trying to take it easy on myself, which can be very hard for me. It's really hard because even if I have clients who are going through a completely difficult time themselves, I can't help them without hitting a wall eventually, and being tired.
Anyway, I think I'm okay for the moment

Thanks, leaping.. (((HUGS))) right back at you

Katatonic, yes, vampire is accurate. Right as I read your post, I remembered the 6 months before I got divorced. I kept having dreams about vampires, really horrendous dreams. Usually I don't have nightmares, and my 'dream characters' and I wind up resolving whatever conflict is in the dream. This was definitely different tho..

I'm looking at a journal from about a year ago, and what I wrote then still feels applicable: You don't realize how hurt you've been sometimes, until you start to heal.

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posted January 14, 2009 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for leapinglemur14     Edit/Delete Message
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You don't realize how hurt you've been sometimes, until you start to heal.

holy pooper scooper!!!!!
i can TOTALLY relate. that's going into my poetry book. and on my facebook.

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posted January 14, 2009 11:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message
Hi MVM,

I just want to put in my two cents also and say that you really do have a sweet and enthusiastic energy, even if you don't feel it right now, it's always there under your posts and it's appreciated.

The good thing about astrology is that you know that Saturn on your Sun is temporary. You won't feel it the whole time, it's just that the third time it hits you will be in August so don't worry about feeling like this all the way through August.

I have a MySpace friend who is a singer and she was feeling really down about her doctor telling her not to speak for three days or something and I told her to think of it as a spiritual vow of silence and to turn them into "spa" days, kind of like being in a temple. That boogie head Saturn, he's stopping you for some reason and he is a teacher. Sometimes we are stopped in our tracks in order to reactivate our vitality.

It reminds me of when people go into comas and we don't understand why. Sometimes your whole body may have to shut down for some very deep healing to happen and it needs you to just stop moving so the body can do what it needs to do.

I really hope you can find things to make you feel a little more upbeat while Saturn has his Monty Python foot on you. Maybe his feet are ticklish and he'll jump away.

Here are some balloons from Jupiter in the meantime.

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