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buena36
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posted January 14, 2009 04:44 AM           Edit/Delete Message

Here is very good example to study about medical astrology what means about health over Natal Chart.
Frida Kahlo, Mexican painter had so many injuries that could be enough for other five persons. It is from Greek medical astrology, I have found four months ago.

Here two Natal Charts:

from Astro.com


and AstroDataBank:


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buena36
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posted January 14, 2009 04:50 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Here are two biographies from Frida:
www.fridakahlofans.com/mainmenu.html - 12k -
www.leninimports.com/frida_kahlo_bio.html - 30k -

She had beautiful face, but pretty difficult Natal Chart.

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buena36
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posted January 14, 2009 05:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Here are some inputs about her life:

Frida Kahlo was born in Mexico City in 1907.
1922 she entered the Preparatoria the most prestigious educational institution in Mexico, which had only just begun to admit girls. She was one of only thirty-five girls out of two thousand students.
"It was there that she met her husband-to-be, Diego Rivera
At the age of 6 she was stricken with polio, which left her with a limp.

"In 1925, Kahlo suffered the serious accident which was to set the pattern for much of the rest of her life. She was travelling in a bus which collided with a tramcar, and suffered serious injuries to her right leg and pelvis.
The accident made it impossible for her to have children, though it was to be many years before she accepted this. It also meant that she faced a life-long battle against pain.
In 1926, during her convalescence she painted her first self-portrait

She met Rivera again in 1928, through her friendship with revolutionary Tina Modotti.
Rivera's marriage had just disintegrated, and the two found that they had much in common, not least from a political point of view, since both were now communist militants.
They married in August 1929. Kahlo was later to say: 'I suffered two grave accidents in my life. One in which a streetcar knocked me down... The other accident is Diego.'

In 1930, the couple left for San Francisco; then, after a brief return to Mexico, they went to New York in 1931 for the Rivera retrospective organized by the Museum of Modern Art. Kahlo, at this stage, was regarded chiefly as a charming appendage to a famous husband, but the situation was soon to change.
In 1932 in Detroit Kahlo suffered a miscarriage.

When they returned to Mexico in 1935, Rivera embarked on an affair with Kahlo's younger sister Cristina

Though they finally made up their quarrel, this incident marked a turning point in their relationship. Rivera had never been faithful to any woman; Kahlo now embarked on a series of affairs with both men and women which were to continue for the rest of her life. Rivera tolerated her lesbian relationships better than he did the heterosexual ones, which made him violently jealous.

Kahlo's more serious early love affairs was with the Russian revolutionary leader Leon Trotsky, now being hounded by his triumphant rival Stalin, and who had been offered refuge in Mexico in 1937 on Rivera's initiative.
Early in 1940, for motives which are still somewhat mysterious, Kahlo and Rivera divorced, though they continued to make public appearances together,
She decided to leave Mexico for a while, and in September she joined her ex-husband. Less than two months later, while they were still in the United States, they remarried. One reason seems to have been Rivera's recognition that Kahlo's health would inexorably deteriorate, and that she needed someone to look after her.
Her health, never at any time robust, grew visibly worse from about

1944 onwards, and Kahlo underwent the first many operations on her spine and her crippled foot. Authorities on her life and work have questioned whether all these operations were really necessary, or whether they were in fact a way of holding Rivera's attention in the face of his numerous affairs with other women. In Kahlo's case, her physical and psychological sufferings were always linked.
In early 1950, her physical state reached a crisis, and she had to go into hospital in Mexico City, where she remained for a year
In the same year,1954 Kahlo, threatened by gangrene, had her right leg amputated below the knee
Soon afterwards, she died in her sleep, apparently as the result of an embolism, though there was a suspicion among those close to her that she had found a way to commit suicide. Her last diary entry read:
'I hope the end is joyful - and I hope never to come back - Frida.'"

(from Wikipedia).

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buena36
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posted January 14, 2009 05:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Her health:

Here are terrible accidents:
Mars conjunction Uranus; as also Jupiter (rules the leg) in opposition with both planets. Neptune, ruler of Pisces has opposition to both planets as well.

Ruler of 6th, Saturn in 8th in square with Venus: she died because of pains and because she didn't have children. (Saturn square Venus).

That she died in sleep: ruler of AC, Sun in conjunction with ruler of 8th, Neptune. She took sleeping pills and has died.

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lechien
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posted January 14, 2009 05:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message
does saturn square venus indicate death in pain?

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buena36
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posted January 14, 2009 06:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message
First accident with 6 years.

Natal + P + T:

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buena36
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posted January 14, 2009 06:05 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Hi lechien,

Saturn square Venus: death because of love! (in her case)

In Natal Chart many astrologers write, the aspect means that person can't have children. Of course one of the planets has to have connection with 5th or 8th house.

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buena36
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posted January 14, 2009 06:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message
September 17th 1925, second accident:

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buena36
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posted January 14, 2009 06:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Marriage with Diego Rivera, August 1929:

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buena36
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posted January 14, 2009 06:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Frida Kahlo died July 13th, 1954 after amputation of her leg.

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buena36
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posted January 14, 2009 06:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Very strange: Progressed Mars was always in the 5th house. She had 35 operations of her spine and right leg.

Poor Frida!

I would like to see movie about her: with Salma Hayek.

Buena

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posted January 14, 2009 06:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
buena, that was an awesome movie! I love Frida too...she was amazing.
Wish I knew more about medical astrology to comment about it, but I don't...sorry

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buena36
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posted January 14, 2009 07:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Hi MVM,
If somebody has chronic pains for long time as I do, it is clear that for me Medical Astrology is very interesting.
Medical Astrology is much more: Medical Astrologer must know what can help to the patient: food, vitamins, therapy and more other things. I am far away to be that, but I can still learn all I like.
My wish is to help to the people they are sick. Only sick person can understand other sick person.
In my case are blocked neck muscles and therefore is blocked all: sinusitis, head circulation and all that makes me very sleepy and totally disappointed.

What I really want to do:
to speak Spanish and do Medical Astrology.

Buena


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posted January 14, 2009 07:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Buena, have you tried studying Reiki healing at all? It's also really powerful for all kinds of healing

Medical astrology is interesting. My mind is too subjective to really understand it though, I think.

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buena36
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posted January 14, 2009 07:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Hi MVM,

No, Reiki not yet, although my good friend had something like that and she always told me to come to visit her and try Reiki.
I didn't go and beside that short after I have moved to other place.

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buena36
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posted January 18, 2009 09:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Here is somebody who has died from amputated leg. He had nice life and many women.

Josip Broz Tito, Natal Chart:

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buena36
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posted January 19, 2009 06:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Here are two Natal Charts from Sigmund Freud:

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buena36
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posted January 19, 2009 06:52 AM           Edit/Delete Message

Here are two biographies from Tito: he started 1912 to have children and go away to other country and then each year there was one child: in Czech Republic, Austria, Croatia, Russia and France. I think there were about 10 children.
Officially he had only two wives and two sons.
www.spiritus-temporis.com/josip-broz-tito/
www.imdb.com/name/nm0864482/bio - 36k

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buena36
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posted January 19, 2009 06:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Here are 2 biographies from Sigmund Freud:
www.notablebiographies.com/Fi-Gi/Freud-Sigmund.html - 22k
www.geocities.com/~mhrowell/freudbiography.html - 21k -

He had always the same face: young looking. As I see he was also charming man: AC Scorpio.

I see here that there was no Suicide, but Euthanasia. Who gave him injection?

I see now, that his doctor Max Schurr gave him poison injection and Anna Freud, his daughter was there, when it happened.

How to see Euthanasia in the Natal Chart?

Buena

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buena36
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posted January 20, 2009 06:39 AM           Edit/Delete Message
I have feeling that I am talking or writing to myself. Doesn't matter: I can survive that.

About Tito:

Ruler of his 12th, Moon (in Pisces house) means feet's; old ruler of his 8th house is Saturn. Here are Moon and Saturn in conjunction, what shows that he has died because of lower part of leg.

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buena36
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posted January 20, 2009 06:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Sigmund Freud:

He was good doctor: 6th house shows doctors (I have more Charts from medical doctors). In 6th house he has NN (he has enjoyed in his job), as also Venus with good aspect.
Pluto in 6th: if we leave Chiron, there is only Pluto in opposition with ASC. Pluto in 6th shows also, that he had some different kind of healing. Ruler of ASC in 6th: he has loved his job.

Now to Euthanasia:

Ruler of his 6th (also his doctor), Mars in 11th in square with Saturn in 8th: for me shows that doctor, his good friend has killed him.
I was long looking his Chart and didn't see any suicide, although his name is on the list of:
Suicide from famous people!

That was my monolog.

Buena

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