posted January 30, 2009 08:56 AM           

Letīs DISCUSS a little and put at proof our argumentative skills

Letīs see this case and others if you want to add:

This is my sinastry and composite with a person.The man is only merely in my life cause he is a member of my bfīs family.

I dont have any romantic interesnt in him,neither i find him attractive or interesting,according to my standars of a man.

One of these days i was playing with charts and i went to see our conections (due to some conflicts i have been having with him).

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aS you can see we have a lot of the so-called "love conections",a lot really ...and i do have any single interest in him.I even want to distance myself from him cause ii feel he deep inside doenst want me to date John:always picking ant try to see if i will say or do sth wrong that makes him able to distill some "poison" to create distress between me and John...vert strange thing!!

but letīs see:

- my DSC cj his IC:Bah..i dont even like his intimate Self.I feel he has a bad temper and deep inside wish to be much more than all others.

- My NN cj his karma:well i had to meet him,as he is part of Jīs family

- My Union cj his VX:ARGhh not in a chance.

- My Venus cj his amor:whyyy??this isnt reality

- My sun cj his Venus:again??? i dont love him or even trust him..

- his stellium falls in my 1st_:i only can presume he like my appearence

-his mars cj my asc!!Ah finally one thing that it is TRUE!

-hIS VALENTINE cj my saturn???

posted January 30, 2009 08:57 AM           

Here it is the ONE AND ONLY ASPECT :the one I LOVEEE Cause it is a beautiful aspect..

True Node cj Valentine :

-Sun cj Mars cj Satur cj Venus:WHOOO woulnt want to have this in charts??

I HAVE IT!!...but with one i dont feel anything...(im wondering with all my forces..)

-Amor cj VX:yup...right..

- Kiron cj DSC:hmm thins one?i believe wounding..yup he does that,he does like to hurt others if he sees they seem not to fall into his charm.

People,im taking this with sense of humour of course but makes me wonder:

What to say in front of all these lovey dovey aspects?Knonwing that me and him arent in relationship,and never will be?

posted January 30, 2009 09:02 AM         

What does amor cj vertex mean please? ad what if it's in opposition? i'm intrigued now!!!

posted January 30, 2009 09:20 AM           

Just how is the big mystery.

If it is true that it reflects life, then understanding astrology, would mean to understand life.
Noone can do that. It`s too huge a knowledge to fit into our little brains.

Also, there is another reason we can`t ever completely have access to this knowledge; it is because we are embedded in this. WE aren`t outside of that system, looking objectively down on it. We only see little fragments, which are also coloured by the glasses (perception) we wear. We never see the whole pattern, only glimpses of it, so the image remains incomplete.

posted January 30, 2009 09:24 AM         

I believe we are talking about karma here not astrology, why people (I mean most people) do not come together with whom they have perfect synastry soulmate aspects or only soft aspects, life would be much easier then, right? maybe because it is not in God's plan

posted January 30, 2009 09:25 AM         

I really don't put much emphasis on asteroids(especially minor asteroids) in a synastry. I believe the main stuff is more important.

I believe that other factors are taken into account like a person's preference for certain things.

if my Venus conjuncts a woman's Sun, I am not going to be attracted to her if she's a woman that smokes or does drugs because I want to be with a woman that doesn't smoke nor use drugs. I am not going to be attracted to her if she's a conservative Christian because I want to be with a liberal woman who has liberal religious beliefs.

posted January 30, 2009 09:51 AM           

i would say amor cj vx shows a romantic interest that can appear to the person out of knowhere.Vx is the destinyīs gate and so it is conected to Fated encounters,feelings,etc.

If it is oposition then amor cj antivx and there i would combine romantic interest that happened in the Past.

posted January 30, 2009 09:57 AM         

the more 'points' you consider, the more contacts you have. there's a bilion bilion planets and stars in this galaxy alone, and they are all in the same 'place'. of course you keep finding connections!

thousands of years astrology counted only the 10 planets. they obviously didn't lack access to the rest of the cosmic 'info' - so why would they stop at these 10?

have you noticed the Pluto-Saturn to Uranus aspect? or mars to mercury? (of course, I can't tell if they're within orb from the chart).

posted January 30, 2009 09:59 AM         

Synastry charts are a good way to look at and think about already-existing relationships. Astrology is simply one of many factors that influences, shapes, or reflects a couple's relatonship or an individual's life path. There are so many gazillion people in the world, and, mathematically, none of us will ever even meet the ones we are most astrologically compatible with...and, if we do meet them, gender, culture, sexuality, professions, family relationships, the religious practices of the family, etc etc etc all influence how we will interact with them.

For example, I have lots of "hot sex" indicators with my massage therapist. We are both female and neither of us experiences sexual attraction to other women , so the aspects give our physical relationship a very different kind of change and meaning than if we had a sexual attraction between us. Sexual or romantic hooks will feel different in different types of relationships.

posted January 30, 2009 10:02 AM           

Peri

i can take a look in the dracos but sincerely?what i feel is that we never were intimate to each other,neither he can be one of my soulmate family.

I will think about him being some soul that needs to meet me,and me,him in order to learn somethings.,but i believe it has to do with accepting others like they are and not to judge for example!
He judges me a lot and i judge him cause we simply do not agree in our views of life,education,morals,etc...

DD

What is your personal opinion? i guess you know who he is and you were surprised to see these aspects werent you?

Amowls

you are right!i never looked at the table

DW of sun square neptune very tight!So that is why we dont get along..

his Pluto also cj my ASC:didnt noticed that:that is why he tries to manipulate me and also take control over me!!This is an awful aspect indeed.

His Pluto also cj my Merc so in that area astrology worked also.

posted January 30, 2009 10:06 AM           

im just teasing a bit - i believe in astrology hihihi

posted January 30, 2009 11:07 AM           

Here's an example..the guy I'm involved with now, we have tons of amazing aspects (and some bad ones) none of them came into my attention until we actually started getting involved..talking seriously, hanging out, touching, becoming emotionally invested in each other, etc..

He is NOT the type I would ever go for physically..and he's much younger..and really gets on my nerves sometimes..but I still feel SO passionate for him..I'm in love.

However, there was a guy I met last year who I thought was drop dead gorgeous. I thought he was interesting, funny, etc....then we started hanging out. Wow, I was wrong. Every single thing I thought about him including his major hotness just vanished. I looked at our synastry chart and we have hardly any aspects..only a couple harsh ones.

And that was that.

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Capricorn sun / Scorpio rising / Sagittarius moon

posted January 30, 2009 02:26 PM           

Yup-i can identl~ify with that yes.

DD

Amor is also for family ties?i always though it had to do with romantic interest.

Cristiname
i consider asteroids too - cause i believe they are very important in astrology,colouring some underneath patterns that arent so obvious betwenn a common analyses of planets.

What does that Pluto-saturn t uranus indicates?actually that did passed me by.

LUCIA23

yes i also always just look at astrology wen actually the relationship exists,for some time.
And astrology for me is a tool and not a predictive science like tarot or palm reading.
But i started this thread cause indeed a sort of "relationship" exist - as this person is related to my bf,i necessarily have to relate with him and as time passed by,i actually started to know him better,to perceive the behaviour,thoughts and patterns of this person.

PERI

but i have 3 brothers and with none of them i have these kind of disagreements.so radical,so different hihi - i hope not cause that way we would have some karma to work on!!

posted January 30, 2009 03:39 PM           

It`s a thought that rushed through my mind, when I wrote you the mail actually, that he might be intrigued by you more than is good.
But of course only you can know that.

Amor represents platonic love as I ahve read, relates to closeness and intimacy.

I think synastry is felt by both parties, but maybe different parts of the synastry, which depends on their natals and progressed charts maybe.
And of course even though you feel it, you can decide to suppress and reject it, and then you won`t feel any attraction on the surface. But since energy never gets lost, it will find another way, and this could even be an upleasant way.

See the Karma-Nessus-conjunction in the composite?
There has been a theme of abuse or stalking in the past, which might overshadow those nice connections; it also squares Pluto - more power plays.

The Valentine / NN-conjunction is squared by Neptune. You definitely do not see clearly what is really going on.

That Mars-Venus-Saturn-conjunction is squared by Amor and Vertex. Fated meeting yes, but the attraction that is there, somewhere underneath, is blocked (Saturn), cooled (Saturn) and there is a sharp contrast between an erotic interest and this platonic kind of love.

In the synastry the Mars-Pluto on your ASC (and John`s Sun) just emphasises that powerplay he is playing. But it also could signify a very explosive attraction. If you want it or not, you have his attention. But with that Mars-Pluto-conjunction there are very strong energies unleashed, and maybe a wish to "defeat or conquer" you.

posted January 30, 2009 03:59 PM           

MY 1ST TOUGHT when i read those lines were

"OMG not in a million.that is simply impossible and not very nice to imagine"!

However...sth quite strange appeared in my head after this instant shock:

One time i wondered that myself;if he somehow inside would have some unresolved "feeling" for me.As this is quite "grosse" to imagine for me as you know,i didnt thougt about it and forgot.But now that you asked,iīll tell this:

One night we were all having dinner with Jīs parentīs,this person and this personīs gf,the wine started to make its work.I never drink and so,this person was the only one happier than the rest of us.He was drunk,but not to the point of incounscious.

Conversations were being made and while talking about relationships and stuff,he suddently said:

"what if we ( looking at John) change gfīs?You take mine and i take Ann and letīs see what comes out!" ...

We all stared at him right in that moment-i felt a total shock.And then when i realised all were looking at me then,i started laughing-i just tried to save the situation saying: " drinking does wrong to the Mind"...John looked at me like "nevermind he is crazy and is always teasing".

of course i was feeling offended and since that moment it might very well have been the crucial poing where my Mind started to ask about his real intentions.

Well i now look at that at another way he had of trying to attack me and see what iīīll do or what John would do.

As neither of us paies attention to him,he stopped his powerplay that night.

posted January 30, 2009 04:39 PM         

I just wanted to point out that lesser orbs mean absolutely nothing. One of my best friends was born week apart from me. At one point she asked me to look at her certain someone's. Turns out he has much closer orb with me but I definitely don't like him nor does he like me better then my friend. I agree with Glaucus, someone has to be something you're looking for you to allow the aspects to express themselves.