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Topic: Asteroid Aten
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oneruledbymars Knowflake Posts: 16 From: South Carolina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 01, 2009 11:15 AM
Just curious as to what this Asteroid placement is in everyones chart and there connection to who or what they view as God. As well as how and when they realized there connection to him. The number is 2062. Thanks guys!------------------ Scorpio Rising Moon in Sag Aries Sun IP: Logged |
venusmars Knowflake Posts: 67 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 01, 2009 11:31 AM
My aten conjunct my saturn in exact deg..It is in the 11th.house.IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 420 From: aspideronmars Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 01, 2009 11:33 AM
My aten is 29' taurus in 11th house and is unaspected.IP: Logged |
oneruledbymars Knowflake Posts: 16 From: South Carolina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 01, 2009 11:49 AM
How did you guys learn about God, like who taught you about him? What brought about significant changes in your relationship with him. The God I speak of is the one Source of Spirit that exists in all of us, and us through him. The bases of all religions, and our connection to each other. It is with his life force that we breathe, no matter how our DNA is "spliced".IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 420 From: aspideronmars Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 01, 2009 12:04 PM
My belief hasn't actually changed from the day l was born... I nearly died at birth and so held onto my guide structure.It has grown and expanded but l never changed my belief. I never did the "god" and church thing though. IP: Logged |
venusmars Knowflake Posts: 67 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 01, 2009 02:14 PM
I believe in God..I learnt from my grandmom first, I guess..But in my whole life I think about God very much..I learned by myself..I dont really believe in one religion..I believe all and pick somethings from them which is "logical" to me and forget about the rest..God is greater than religions and people changed all the holly books for their own advantages..That is my opinion.. IP: Logged |
leapinglemur14 Knowflake Posts: 49 From: NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 01, 2009 06:22 PM
mine's in cancer in the 4th opposing, saturn, uranus and sextile mercuryIP: Logged |
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posted February 01, 2009 07:57 PM
I don't believe in the patriarchal conception of God. I'm weary of religion, it just gives me the creeps. I think in a past life I was very oppressed by religion, and now in this life I've gone the complete opposite direction, plus religion was never pushed on me when I was a kid. I'm not sure what the significance of Aten is. But I'm guessing it has to due with God. Aten is located in my 9th squaring Jupiter in the 7th and is trine Uranus in the first. This relates to the fact that I'm devoted to higher education, but my faith in relationships may be jeopardized in my quest for independence and a higher education. IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 318 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 01, 2009 08:09 PM
i was raised to NOT believe in god. my parents were religion-survivors if you know worimean...i discovered the source in bits and pieces but most notably on a beach in oregon in 1968...and in the many miracles throughout this life.in my chart aten is at 1 virgo, exactly conjunct merc, opp moon and squ chiron! IP: Logged |
oneruledbymars Knowflake Posts: 16 From: South Carolina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 01, 2009 10:42 PM
I find this interesting you guys. Because I was raised very religious. My parents were Jehovahs Witnesses and I have read the Bible, through and through like at least 15 times, (we had to read it once a year). I grew to love the stories though, and God became very, very real to me because of it. I used to sit in the Kingdom Hall and imagine my heart flying out of my chest to meet with God during the prayers, of course being the Aries I am, I wanted my heart to get there first, lol I did not think anything of this when I was a little kid though. I thought everyone was doing that during prayer! lol In any case my Aten is in the 4th house at 14 Pisces. Get this guys. It opposes my North Node which is 16 Virgo. Its conjunct Osiris which is 12 Pisces. It is sextile my Atlantis which is 14 degrees Taurus and this forms a Yod with DNA which is at 13 degrees Libra. And its trine the Sirius Star System, and my Sphinx which at 13 Degrees Cancer. Its also sextile Anubis which is 14 degrees Capricorn. WTF? So I looked up Amenhotep in my chart and it is at 23 degrees Aquarius and it is sextile my Sun at 26 degrees Aries and Moon which is 21 Degrees Sag. and its Conjunct my IC which is 25 degrees Aquarius (I guess the Suns orb is a little wide though at 3 degrees) Consider the story of Amenhotep: Akhenaten (often also spelled Echnaton, Akhnaton, or rarely Ikhnaton) (In English, IPA: [ˌɑkəˡnɑtən][1] his royal name Amenhotep in English is IPA: [ˌɑmənˈhotɛp][5] meaning Effective spirit of Aten, first known as Amenhotep IV (sometimes read as Amenophis IV and meaning Amun is Satisfied) before the first year of his reign), was a Pharaoh of the Eighteenth dynasty of Egypt, who died 1336 BC or 1334 BC. He is especially noted for attempting to compel the Egyptian population in the monotheistic worship of Aten, although there are doubts as to how successful he was at this. He was born to Amenhotep III and his Chief Queen Tiye and was their younger son. Akhenaten was not originally designated as the successor to the throne until the untimely death of his older brother, the Crown Prince Thutmose. Amenhotep IV succeeded his father after Amenhotep III's death at the end of his 38-year reign, possibly after a short coregency lasting between either 1 to 2 years. Suggested dates for Akhenaten's reign (subject to the debates surrounding Egyptian chronology) are from 1353 BC-1336 BC or 1351 BC–1334 BC. Akhenaten's chief wife was Nefertiti, made world-famous by the discovery of her exquisitely moulded and painted bust, now displayed in the Altes Museum of Berlin, and among the most recognised works of art surviving from the ancient world. After his death and the restoration of traditional religious practice, he and his immediate successors were ignored and excised from history by later rulers. Akhenaten himself is usually referred to as 'the enemy'.[6] This is what Wikipedia had to say about Aten: Aten (or Aton) was the disk of the sun in ancient Egyptian mythology, and originally an aspect of Ra. He became the deity of the monotheistic — in fact, monistic — religion of Amenhotep IV, who took the name Akhenaten. The worship of Aten seemed to stop shortly after Akhenaten's death. In his poem "Hymn to Aten," Akhenaten praises Aten as the creator, and giver of life. Aten was the life-giving force of light. The full title of Akhenaten's god was The Rahorus who rejoices in the horizon, in his/her Name of the Light which is seen in the sun disc. (This is the title of the god as it appears on the numerous stelae which were placed to mark the boundaries of Akhenaten's new capital at Amarna, or "Akhetaten.") This lengthy name was often shortened to Ra-Horus-Aten or just Aten in many texts, but the god of Akhenaten raised to supremacy is considered a synthesis of very ancient gods viewed in a new and different way. Both Ra and Horus characteristics are part of the god, but the god is also considered to be both masculine and feminine simultaneously. All creation was thought to emanate from the god and to exist within the god. In particular, the god was not depicted in anthropomorphic (human) form, but as rays of light extending from the sun's disk. Furthermore, the god's name came to be written within a cartouche, along with the titles normally given to a Pharaoh, another break with ancient tradition. The Aten, the sun-disk, first appears in texts dating to the 12th dynasty, in The Story of Sinuhe, where the deceased king is described as rising as god to the heavens and uniting with the sun-disk, the divine body merging with its maker.[2] Ra-Horus, more usually referred to as Ra-Herakhty (Ra, who is Horus of the two horizons), is a synthesis of two other gods, both of which are attested from very early on. During the Amarna period, this synthesis was seen as the invisible source of energy of the sun god, of which the visible manifestation was the Aten, the solar disk. Thus Ra-Horus-Aten was a development of old ideas which came gradually. The real change, as some see it, was the apparent abandonment of all other gods, above all Amun, and the introduction of monotheism by Akhenaten.[3] The syncretism is readily apparent in the Great Hymn to the Aten in which Re-Herakhty, Shu and Aten are merged into the creator god.[4] Others see Akhenaten as a practitioner of an Aten monolatry.[5] [edit] I found this all very, very interesting, considering how I was raised. So I am wondering what does Atens placement in our charts mean. How we find God? Or how we relate to his presence as apart of us?
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leapinglemur14 Knowflake Posts: 49 From: NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 01, 2009 10:54 PM
OMG.....ok i didn't know all that till now (obviously). One of my ex's had a dream that Ra came to him and told him he has to change his life because it's not the path that he's meant to take. After that dream he did a 180.I'll be back to post his natal with Aten and if i can find out transits or progressions? both? which do you think?
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oneruledbymars Knowflake Posts: 16 From: South Carolina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 01, 2009 11:01 PM
Leapinglemur. Thats very interesting. Find out both and lets see if there is any correlation. I am thinking Aten is the Jehovah or God that is mentioned in the Bible.Lara you wrote: "My belief hasn't actually changed from the day l was born..." Do think it could be because yours in Taurus and Taurus is a fixed sign? Or because its unaspected? Venusmars: What sign is yours in? ----------------- Scorpio Rising Moon in Sag Aries Sun IP: Logged |
amowls Knowflake Posts: 4 From: Falls Church, VA, USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 02, 2009 12:43 AM
It's at 27 Pisces, conjunct my Venus (29 Pisces) and my NN (23 Pisces).I don't really believe in a Christian God, or the characteristics of God that Christians have given him. I don't think God punishes evil. I don't even really believe in "evil." There are just lessons to be learned. I don't believe that God is a person-like being, but purely spirit that encompasses everything. IP: Logged |
leapinglemur14 Knowflake Posts: 49 From: NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 02, 2009 12:52 AM
grrrrrrrrrrrrr he doesn't remember....people need to write these things down!!!
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oneruledbymars Knowflake Posts: 16 From: South Carolina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 02, 2009 01:32 AM
Yes they should Leapinglemur! lol Amowls, I agree with you on that too. But there is a spark of life that exist in you, and me and everything thing ever created. Mankind is just a genetic experiment, the basic form of which is our DNA, which we all have different combinations of depending on our genetic lines. However what we do share is the 50% of 3D body that is pure energy from the Source, the physical 3D body is just a vessel for that energy, a manifestion of Spirit into matter. I think Aten was just Akhenatons way of giving that source a name, just like Yahweh was the Hebrews attempt, Allah was the was the Muslims attempt so on and so forth. But I dont agree with organized religion either. I think we all find our connection to the Source of life within ourself, we no longer have to give our Sovereignty away to a Diety, or a human, or an ET, or Ascended Masters ,nor should we have too, that was the age of Pisces and part of the experience of the Dark Age that we entered after the fall of Atlantis, that all of us elected to experience as a seperation from the Source. After all we must truly experience darkness before we can truly experience light. But this is the dawn of the Aquarian Age. We must go within ourselves to find our "Gurus" and "Avatars" So when I speak of God/Source I don't mean some elusive, distant creator god way out there, or up there, somewhere, but rather of the Source from which each one of us consciously and joyfully steps out onto the stage of manifestation in the 3D. The form which this consciousness assumes is not separate from itself, is not something inert, but rather a living structure of units of the consciousness of Source or God. In other words, God or Source is not external to creation. Neither are we. But at some point in life we learn this since we are born into a world that teaches just the very opposite to disempower us. I just wonder if the use of the Asteroid Aten can show us how people become aware of this, since many are like me and come from a childhood in which they are brainwashed to believe otherwise and raised in a society that has dumb down the whole of of humanity. Perhaps the Asteroid can show the way that we learn otherwise, since all of us experience life differently albeit our identical connections to the Divine/Source/God of the spark of life. That said, evil does not even come into play and neither does judgement. Unless it is something you are doing to yourself. And that is the embodiment of a whole different thread altogether, lol. IP: Logged |
leapinglemur14 Knowflake Posts: 49 From: NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 02, 2009 02:09 AM
i completely agree with you. its how i was raised and i've grown up rejecting everything i was taught. and have a "new" belief. My mom thinks im going to hell...IP: Logged |
oneruledbymars Knowflake Posts: 16 From: South Carolina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 02, 2009 02:21 AM
lol. You should tell her to look around. She is already in it! ..... on second thought you better not, if she is anything like my mom she is a force to be reckoned with! lol IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Moderator Posts: 377 From: peace.angel@live.com.au Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 02, 2009 02:31 AM
Aten is in Taurus in 2nd. I was brought up in a quasi traditional Christian religious household, but I always had my own ideas about God, etc. I didn't really get it from anyone or anywhere else, it was something that was always inside that I just knew somehow. Aten is conjunct Lucifer, a few minutes apart and square Angel.IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 247 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted February 02, 2009 02:58 AM
Aten in Scorpio in the 7th, no aspects (haven't checked asteroids though). It's through relationships and transformation within them that I find myself transcending the mundane and reconnecting with the divine. It matches almost perfectly with how I was raised and what I have almost always practiced: Not religious and yet not without religion. The relationship is extremely intimate and personal, and not talked about openly because it's an ongoing mystery that I like to reflect upon alone, within a personal one-on-one dialogue.
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posted February 02, 2009 06:05 AM
Interesting, PA,my Aten and Lucifer are both retograde, in Taurus and conjunct (but orb is 3°), quinkunx Angel/Atlantis / ASC and trine Venus/Isis/Osiris and sextile Echnaton / horus. Seems we have yet another thing in common.
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evander Knowflake Posts: 19 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 02, 2009 06:35 AM
i have both Atena(5") and Lucifer (27") in 11th house in Aquarius. Neither are retrograde. I could not be more opposed to it then I am. I won't get into it not to insult anyone with strong beliefs. Let's just say I agree some existentialists and i would rather embrace the flying spaghetti monster gospel. IP: Logged |
venusmars Knowflake Posts: 67 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 02, 2009 06:38 AM
It's in cancer.IP: Logged |