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good girl
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posted February 02, 2009 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for good girl     Edit/Delete Message
My saturn is in pisces and when I go defensive I either (sort of)play victim in hopes others see what a meanie they are, or I am so vague and nebulous that you can't pin me down.

My sister on the other hand has saturn in aries. She is of the school that the best defense is a good offense.

What about you?

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MyVirgoMask
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posted February 02, 2009 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Good Girl, I'm so happy to see you posting again, I've missed you !!!

I've got Saturn in Cancer, so I tend to initially go through a whiny 'No one loves me' dance in my head, then completely withdraw into a shell and become very icy and unreceptive.
I've been told that I come off as extremely cold and detached when I get to that level because I cut off my feelings, and those feelings are too painful to handle. It's an easy out in a way.

I think it's interesting that with Saturn reigning over whatever sign, we embody the negative qualities of it in defense.

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posted February 02, 2009 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for good girl     Edit/Delete Message
Oh, thank you MVM,

Mercury was retrograde so I laid low for awhile. I already go around with one foot in my mouth, I don't have room for two!!

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posted February 02, 2009 06:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message
my generations saturn is in capricorn, i don't know there negative traits.

maybe saturn influences how were defensive, but i don't think it accounts for all or most of it.

i think its a combo of the moon venus n mercury signs?

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MyVirgoMask
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posted February 02, 2009 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Libralove, look at negative traits of Capricorn and that's your defense.
You can maybe be very matter-of-fact when you are feeling cornered. Maybe you use the word 'should' a lot and can tend to be bossy when provoked.

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posted February 02, 2009 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plutonian Persona     Edit/Delete Message
Saturn in Virgo...can you say CRITICAL?

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posted February 02, 2009 07:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Wouldn't Mars emphasize defenses more than Saturn?

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posted February 02, 2009 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for good girl     Edit/Delete Message
I think mars would represent offense.

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posted February 02, 2009 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venusmars     Edit/Delete Message
Myvirgomask you wrote;

I've got Saturn in Cancer, so I tend to initially go through a whiny 'No one loves me' dance in my head, then completely withdraw into a shell and become very icy and unreceptive.
I've been told that I come off as extremely cold and detached when I get to that level because I cut off my feelings, and those feelings are too painful to handle. It's an easy out in a way.

Mine is in cancer too..Wow amazing similarity..LOL

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posted February 02, 2009 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for good girl     Edit/Delete Message
Maybe capricorn's deffense would be the cold shoulder, or taking a superior attitude.

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posted February 02, 2009 08:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Everyone is different... But When Saturn and Mars are in the same element or sign its hard what is the defense or the offense.

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posted February 02, 2009 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ranti     Edit/Delete Message
... and distrustful

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posted February 02, 2009 11:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Saturn in Sagittarius..

I try to act really smart and convince the other person I AM right. I get defensive quickly especially to personal attacks..I get stubborn and try to make you feel inferior or worse than you made me feel. Did someone say Sagittarius is childish lol?

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Capricorn sun / Scorpio rising / Sagittarius moon

Mercury:: Sagittarius
Venus::Scorpio
Mars::Pisces

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leapinglemur14
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posted February 02, 2009 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for leapinglemur14     Edit/Delete Message
hahaha i got saturn in Sag, retro..not sure if that makes a difference. But i usually speak before i think,...and it gets me in trouble..

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posted February 02, 2009 11:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message
leapinglemur..definitely can relate to that one. i admit to kinda liking the drama, though

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posted February 02, 2009 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for leapinglemur14     Edit/Delete Message
its funny to watch someone's jaw drop i must admit..

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posted February 03, 2009 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
i think its a combo of the moon venus n mercury signs?

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I think mars would represent offense.

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Everyone is different... But When Saturn and Mars are in the same element or sign its hard what is the defense or the offense.

Looks like any way you slice it I'll be a talker.

Saturn in Gemini in the 1st
Mars in Scorpio in the 6th
Moon in Virgo in the 4th or 5th
Venus, Mercury in Sagittarius in the 7th

I think there's always a point in my defense, and I communicate it.

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posted February 03, 2009 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls     Edit/Delete Message
I just laugh and act like it doesn't matter.

I have Saturn in Sag.

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Lucia23
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posted February 03, 2009 01:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
Saturn in Cancer here too.

Mars in Virgo.

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posted February 03, 2009 02:17 AM           Edit/Delete Message
GOODGIRL, on Saturn in Pisces you wrote:

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I am so vague and nebulous that you can't pin me down.

Gosh! This is a great description!!!;-) I had been quite close to someone who has this placement ... and for me, his partner/opponent, his Saturn in Pisces (cj. his DSC) felt exactly that way!

My own Saturn is in TAURUS (in 6th), also quite close to my DSC. Guess I can be stubborn in a way - another important thing that I noticed on my way of behaving "persistent/defensive" is: Claiming and proving that "I can do it alone!!! I don't need anyone to support me!" I definitely manage to work in the background, silently and on my own for certain times, if neccessary. That's a way of "protecting my turf" in a way ... not letting anyone else mingle with my stuff...;-)

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posted February 03, 2009 02:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
What would a Saturn in Scorpio do?

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MyVirgoMask
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posted February 03, 2009 02:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Become vengeful maybe?

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Dulce Luna
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posted February 03, 2009 02:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message
Saturn in Sag. I either...

1) make the offender look ridiculous

and/or

2) Tell it like it is.... and forget about sparing the details. My virgo moon will *go* there.

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posted February 03, 2009 03:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
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I've got Saturn in Cancer, so I tend to initially go through a whiny 'No one loves me' dance in my head, then completely withdraw into a shell and become very icy and unreceptive.

I do exactly this, too. I wish I could stop. I always end up feeling bad later, like I wish I'd just reached out and let on I was hurt, and changed the situation.

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posted February 03, 2009 08:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message
so what would a saturn in aquarius do?

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