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Topic: Did this person actually finds 2 soulmates?
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GCcarrier
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posted February 09, 2009 03:47 AM
If so, which of the two persons will he feels a deeper connection and what interaspect(s) indicates this? Is he more likely to marry person A or person B? I'm also interested about what you guys think are the best and worst interaspects in both charts.Person A & B (inside) 
 Here are the direct links to the interaspect tables if you want to see them as well: http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/VitaNuova85/KAHtable.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/VitaNuova85/KAItable.jpg If you've been in this situation and you did end up with one of your soulmates, how did you feel? Did you feel bad that you have to let go or give up your relationship with your other soulmate? IP: Logged |
Lara
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posted February 09, 2009 04:25 AM
May i ask what makes you think either of them are soulmates please?  IP: Logged |
Iqhunk
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posted February 09, 2009 04:41 AM
Person B is the better choice.
Native's Sun conjuncts B's VALENTINE, and B's AMOR is on Native's Descendant.
Also, Native's VALENTINE conjuncts Person B's Aphrodite.Person A has a strong JUNO aspect and a good EROS aspect to North Node but there is an age gap issue, they seem to be just 3 months apart and are in incompatibe signs of Leo and Scorpio. ------------------
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posted February 09, 2009 05:05 AM
Lara,Here's what made me think he has found his two soulmates, though Iqhunk already points out some of them. Native's aspects to Person A:
Person A's Eros conjunct his North Node 0s
Person A's Eros oppose his Psyche 3s
Person A's Sun is in his 7th house
His Vertex conjunt Person A's Venus 0a Native's aspects to Person B:
Person B's Vertex oppose his Moon 2s
Person B's Moon is in his 7th house
Sun-Valentine double whammy
Sun-Amor double whammy
Iqhunk,
I want to understand the age gap issue more. Why would it be a disadvantage? IP: Logged |
Lara
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posted February 09, 2009 06:24 AM
Is it enough though GC?To be honest it doesn't matter who he chooses because sometimes we meet soulmates a lot and whoever he does go with will be the one to teach him the lesson he needs to learn. Maybe he will date the other soul mate in a few years  IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask
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posted February 09, 2009 06:28 AM
I say the first one feels more of a connection, and this is just my gut talking. I could be wrong. But I feel it's mutual. IP: Logged |
Iqhunk
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posted February 09, 2009 06:35 AM
Just simple psychology, it is easy for an older guy to spoil his younger bride, give her surprise gifts, overlook her small faults and avoid rash reactions or power struggles. Younger girls too tend to respect the older guy's age. I have lost count of the number of successful marriages where age gap was above 5 years. And sadly, most failed marriages and relationships will have an gap of below 2, or the girl is older. Player types take advantage of older women just for sex. The moment he makes a stash of cash, he will dump her for much younger playboy bunny types. One of the best examples here is Indian Bollywood Star Saif Ali Khan. Married a "soul mate" 7 years his senior for nearly a decade. He was not so successful till a movie named "Dil Chahta Hai" relaunched his career. The moment the next film became a hit, he dumped his older wife and chased bimbos, he is currently living it up with mega bollywood siren Kareena Kapoor. The sad part is his wife was praying for his film to flop, she candidly admitted that her hubby would dump her should his film become a hit. Anyway, just my observations, I sincerely wish that this tendency evaporates and every couple lives happily ever after irresepctive of age gaps. IP: Logged |
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posted February 09, 2009 09:19 AM
So far, Iqhunk favors Person B and MyVirgoMask favors Person A. That's 1 point for each. I need more votes please.Lara, There are probably more than enough important interaspects on both charts and that's why I need help from you guys. Whether you're male or female, if you are in this man's position and you have to choose now, who will it be? Who would you want to be with for the rest of your life? You might want to check these out, Lara. It's gonna be a long list if I will to write down each person's interaspects. I will make a list, though, if more people prefer it that way. 
Iqhunk,
You're right, he is only 3 months younger than Person A. Though the woman is indeed older, it's only 3 months. Do you think, base on their chart, your observation applies to them as well? I don't want to get sidetracked, I just want to add something about that age gap issue. My dad is 18 years older than my mom. He cheated on my mom when I was just 2 years old with a woman (who looked) older than he is. My mom, who was just 22 years old at that time, young and beautiful, was badly hurt by the separation. It kinda added insult to the injury that she was replaced by a way older woman. They got back together, though, after 9 long years. So, it's still a good ending and my mom gets the last laugh. =) IP: Logged |
Lara
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posted February 09, 2009 09:36 AM
I just don't see any AC to main planets in either conjunct or trine.IP: Logged |
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posted February 09, 2009 10:06 AM
i would also "pcik" the 2nd one cause the 1st has Mars hitting the other+s dsc;venus square uranus and almost nothing special between the personal planets to each otherīs.The 2nd one has lovely trine of venus with sun and kiron cj sun for example. of course apart from all the others IQ posted. indeed there are no major aspects to the ACīS in neither 1 or 2 but i would look at dracos to see possible past conections. IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask
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posted February 09, 2009 10:09 AM
Yeah, my mother is 8 years older than my Dad....and he's always been sweet on her lol. I think it depends on the man.
At any rate...I could not make the decision for someone of who to marry !
But I am looking at the 7th house chart ruler of the man in question, and it's the moon (Cancer)...I don't like that it's not making many aspects in either chart. And in fact, neither chart is making many aspects with the luminaries, except for that square to the sun in the 2nd chart. However, I am seeing the moon falling into the 3rd house of the 1st chart, and it's making me feel like he might feel more comfortable confiding in her somehow.
I'm also looking at Saturn - there's a square in the first one and conjunction in the second. So I guess both might be ok for th long term, but I feel like the 2nd one with Saturn conjunct Sun might feel more karmic, though the square is also really common in marriages.
I'm betting that he might find the first woman a bit harder to pin down with the Uranus square Venus - but you'd also have to see if it does that in his own chart, since it could just be generational. Either way, he's having a monumental impact on the 1st one I would think - that's 4th house stuff is not easy to ignore. The 8th isn't either - but the 4th goes right to the heart and soul. Person 2 has her Chiron conjunct his Sun. That's gotta hurt. You just gotta feel that, for better or worse.
I hate to say it, but I feel the 1st one is more bound to him with the Saturn stuff especially. Either way...I really don't know for sure.
Does he get a say in all this or what lol
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MyVirgoMask
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posted February 09, 2009 10:17 AM
Have you done composites yet for this? You might try, it would be good to just see how the planets cluster to houses for a 'theme'.
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Lara
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posted February 09, 2009 10:23 AM
yes, can we see composites please? IP: Logged |
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posted February 09, 2009 10:27 AM
Okay, I can do that. What asteroids are you interested to see in Composite and Davison?
Person A doesn't have an exact birth time, by the way.IP: Logged |
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posted February 09, 2009 10:30 AM
Ooooh....the mystery deepens with no birth time ...scratch everything I've said then, kind of  What do you guys think of an experiment with Prosperina and Persephone...seeing if they make aspects to Pluto I'm not big on asteroids since I'm just learning myself, but there was a great thread about those two asteroids in aspect to Pluto!
They can really make an impact in synastry and composite, I think.
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Lara
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posted February 09, 2009 10:33 AM
Karma, Valentine, eros, psyche, osiris, isis, vertex, juno please IP: Logged |
Iqhunk
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posted February 09, 2009 11:27 AM
Thumbs up to your parents MVM!
Lets do the Persephone and Proserpine check as well.
Persephone = 313
Proserpine = 26
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Lara
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posted February 09, 2009 11:55 AM
Both my parents are married to people the same age as them and both have been married for over 20 and 30 years now so i'm not so convinced with the age gap thing.I was once married to a guy older than me and it didn't last beyond 2 years! IP: Logged |
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posted February 09, 2009 11:59 AM
Here are the updated Composite Charts. I added Amor and Cupido since they seem relevant on one of the chart. http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/VitaNuova85/KAHcomposite2.jpg http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/VitaNuova85/KAIcomposite2.jpg Sadly, I don't have Person A's birth time.
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Lara
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posted February 09, 2009 12:02 PM
Person A
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Iqhunk
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posted February 10, 2009 05:34 AM
It is Person B.
There is nothing in Person A's composite that can beat a Pluto-Karma conjunction aspecting PERSEPHONE conj True Node.
Plus Sun is in 7th and Asc trines Moon for certain (we dont have A's birth time.)
Venus sq Valentine is just the trigger to spice up the romance as well.Yup, it is person B.
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Lara
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posted February 10, 2009 06:05 AM
interesting.would a proserpina opposing NN and conjunct pluto plus a valentine/psyche square karma exact have a similar impact please? So fascinating how you read these charts IQ !
I love it.. l wish we could have an aspect thread where you can list the important aspects and what they mean. Your insight is so clear and zones in to the heart! IP: Logged |
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posted February 10, 2009 06:53 AM
Hi Lara,
It is all coming together, I can only work on snippets at a time. You spoke of how people who can live for 50 years with each other have to be twin souls, well I am using the 70 year marriage of the Bradmans as a key illuminator in soul mate analysis.
They too have the Pluto-Perspehone link, however we dont have birth times else we could have nailed many a harmonious aspect to Ascendant and House Positions.BTW, Harry Houdini has an Aquarius Ascendant conj KARMA, opposing Uranus in Leo and T-Squaring North Node. His KARMA sextiles MERLIN exact, and MERLIN conj SPHINX by 1.2 degrees. He too could be Aqua 4 or 5 or 6 or 7 degrees as we dont know the exactitude of time keeping in the 19th century. ------------------
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Lara
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posted February 10, 2009 08:40 AM
interesting IQIF my AC is 6' Aqua as we are discussing, it aspects all of these pretty much exact.
sun 5' taurus
mercury 7' taurus
sphinx 6' gemini
Hera 6' leo
Merlin 6' leo
Magion 6' leo
vertex 7'' virgo
juno 5' scorpio
karma 6' scorpio
Arthur 7' scorpio So there are some similarities with karma, merlin and sphinx. I'm no good at getting out of handcuffs though
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posted February 11, 2009 12:41 PM
Before anything else, I want to thank everyone for their feedback. I really do appreciate you guys for helping me.I have updated the above two composite charts. You might want to take a look since I added Cupido and Amor. Okay ummm, I would like to see the Draconic synastry charts of each person with the guy as Diandra suggested, but how do I do it? Can anyone tell me where or how to get a Draconic chart? Can I also find it at astro.com? MyVirgoMask:
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Person 2 has her Chiron conjunct his Sun. That's gotta hurt. You just gotta feel that, for better or worse.
Hi MyVirgoMask,
I'm confuse as there are some contradiction when it comes to Sun-Chiron interpretation in synastry. Is it really that bad? If you have this aspect with someone as well, I'm interested to know how it affects you both.
Iqhunk:
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Person A has a strong JUNO aspect and a good EROS aspect to North Node but there is an age gap issue, they seem to be just 3 months apart and are in incompatibe signs of Leo and Scorpio.
Hi Iqhunk,
Wouldn't the Juno and Eros aspects be enough, though, to make the native thinks/feels Person A is the right one for him whether with or without Person B in the picture?
Iqhunk:
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It is Person B.
There is nothing in Person A's composite that can beat a Pluto-Karma conjunction aspecting PERSEPHONE conj True Node.
Plus Sun is in 7th and Asc trines Moon for certain (we dont have A's birth time.)
Venus sq Valentine is just the trigger to spice up the romance as well.
If you have time, can you please interpret these aspects for me, because aside from knowing that those are the tightest aspects in the Composite chart (Pluto-Karma conjunction's orb is 0deg0'21"), I actually don't know anything about them. I checked out your "Asteroid Karma" thread and found no information about Pluto and Karma aspect there. In addition to Valentine-Venus square in composite, Chryseis in 10 Lib 59'0" also square Venus and conjunct Valentine. What would that mean? The Asteroid Karma is an awesome thread, by the way! Are you still gonna continue to answer questions there? IP: Logged |
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