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GemGemGem
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posted February 15, 2009 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemGemGem     Edit/Delete Message
This guy keeps asking me out, and he won't take my "let's just be friends" speech for an answer. He wants a "date". Like a sit down dinner date. It's a pretty large asian community in NYC, but he's been around the block SEVERAL times, and knows everyone. He's very popular with the girls, and his reputation as a player precedes him.

When I met him for the first time, a few weeks ago at a local bar, he seemed like a dork, and I didn't get a player vibe from him at all. He seemed nice. But then when I spoke to him yesterday, he's all smooooth talking all of a sudden! My friend said he's had a LOT of girls, and can be sleazy, which intimidates me, cause I've had almost NO experience with the dating scene, and I'm afraid it would be quite easy for me to get played, or used, or BOTH. It's a jungle out there, so I wanted to be extra cautious.

This is his chart, but I don't know his birth time, or place of birth, so the houses will not be accurate. From the aspects can anyone tell me what this guy is about? Does the chart show potential for a person to be a player or womanizer? Is there a "sleaze ball" aspect I can look for? LOL!

When I look at him, he seems like a dork, but apparently girls are all over him. Go figure.
Should I give him a chance, and say yes to a date?

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emma_duncan
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posted February 15, 2009 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for emma_duncan     Edit/Delete Message
aha mars trine neptune ...can be a player
and mars in leo
pluto conjuct moon in virgo....he can be persistent

my advice be on yr watch

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leapinglemur14
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posted February 15, 2009 10:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for leapinglemur14     Edit/Delete Message
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if he seems like a player, he probably is. that would creep me out personally. shudder.

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posted February 15, 2009 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scrappydog     Edit/Delete Message
That almost exact sun pluto square could give him a magnatism and/or charisma even if he's not very good looking. This could be one reason for the girls being all over him.

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posted February 15, 2009 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scrappydog     Edit/Delete Message
The libra rising could definately make him flirtatious, even promiscuous.

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GemGemGem
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posted February 15, 2009 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemGemGem     Edit/Delete Message
But that's the thing Heartcakes, when I met him, he didn't seem like a player. To me, he seemed like a dorky, nice guy. But then again, my judgement is probably not the best, since it's been a while since I've really been out in the dating scene. It's a friend of mine telling me he has a reputation of a player.

Thanks Emma, I'll be on my watch. I didn't know mars in Leo was "player" potential!

LL14, that's terrible! LOL!! And no, I've never been to QC, is it in Queens or the city? If it's good, I'll have to try it out!

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emma_duncan
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posted February 15, 2009 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for emma_duncan     Edit/Delete Message
nah she dznt know birth time

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GemGemGem
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posted February 15, 2009 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemGemGem     Edit/Delete Message
Scrappydog, I don't know his birth time, so his Asc may not be Libra. You're right though, he's not good looking at ALL, but apparently has girls falling all over him. That's why I'm a bit afraid that if I go out with him, I may fall for him, which I DON'T want if he's a player.

I do think he's got a great personality though! Very witty! I'm a sucker for personality!

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posted February 15, 2009 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for emma_duncan     Edit/Delete Message
are thre other guys around you are intersted in? or who are intersted in....

why bother abt this guy,..which you have doubts abt,,,time is too precious

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posted February 15, 2009 11:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with Emma. Love is hard enough...explore the dating scene with guys who your first impression of is--Wow! This guy is gorgeous and cool and open-hearted and seems wonderful--rather than guys who seem dubious/possibly a little sleazy or troubled even before you get to know them. Life's too short.

If you have any intuitive twinges telling you "Eh" about this guy already, trust them, they're accurate. It might not be that he's a player, but something is wrong about him for you.

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GemGemGem
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posted February 15, 2009 11:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemGemGem     Edit/Delete Message
I know Emma, I shouldn't waste my time on someone who could be a player, but I really like his personality. He has that witty spark that is hard to find. I don't date much, so there aren't many guys on the radar at the moment.

So, you think I should pass on this one?

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posted February 15, 2009 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for emma_duncan     Edit/Delete Message
yep....

pass.........."not interested"

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GemGemGem
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posted February 15, 2009 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemGemGem     Edit/Delete Message
Arghhh, that's not the answer I wanted to hear!
You and Lucia are tag teaming me. LOL!!!

You guys are probably right.

But why do NO "quality" guys ever ask me out? It's always the guys with issues, or the players, or the non-commital ones! It's so hard to find a good date! LOL!!!

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posted February 15, 2009 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for emma_duncan     Edit/Delete Message
do u have venus saturn hardcontact?
venus in virgo
saturn in 7th
venus sq neptune?
saturn hard aspect juno

any of these might be a reason...and if u have any one of these...dont worry....cz i have all five of these and am surviving

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posted February 16, 2009 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Beware of the dorks. They're chick magnets. That whole shucks-nothing-special-about-me veneer is something he is using to his advantage. He uses his dorkiness to reel 'em him since it makes him look all benign.

Beware, beware.

Of course, you could play it and make him fall in love with you, then rip his heart out.
But that'll just get him more sympathy.

Moon conjunct ascendant - he's good with women because he listens. They feel like he's on their side, and he is, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have an agenda either.
Trust your instincts.

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posted February 16, 2009 12:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for emma_duncan     Edit/Delete Message
nah
i hv a feeling our gemgemgem is a gem and not a seasoned player ....she will fall for him in her attempts to play him up

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MyVirgoMask
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posted February 16, 2009 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
lol. He's got Jupiter in the 5th. He might be fun to hang out with....as long as you don't take him too seriously, GemGem!!!

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GemGemGem
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posted February 16, 2009 12:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemGemGem     Edit/Delete Message
Darn, is it that obvious! LOL!!

It's true, I can't play the game. If I ever tried to get someone to fall in love with me, I'd probably end up just falling for him and hurting myself! haha.

MVM, wanna give me some pointers in the art of seduction! LOL!!!

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emma_duncan
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posted February 16, 2009 12:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for emma_duncan     Edit/Delete Message
again MVM

birthtime not correct

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GemGemGem
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posted February 16, 2009 12:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemGemGem     Edit/Delete Message
"Beware of the dorks."

LOL!!

So what you're saying is now the dorks are players, and the players are players too. So what's left if a guy is not a player?

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posted February 16, 2009 12:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message
Dorks are players now too? *sobs*

Well he has the same sun, moon, mercury, and venus as me. The mars and ASC are different but I have a fire mars and Cardinal ASC too so I pretty much have an identical chart. I gotta admit I am a dork at heart but player? I wish. J/K, I'm surprised/pleased that people haven't blamed it on his gemini venus yet...though I'm too biased so don't listen to me when I say to rule this out. I mean I guess a gemini venus could manifest this way, its just that alot of *other* gemini venuses I met aren't this way. *shrugs*

His aspects to his mars and venus kind of point to him being being idealistic though, and not so much a player. Venus opposition Neptune is one of those, along with mars trine neptune...which would make him very alluring to women. Though Eros is opposite Uranus which also happens to be the ruler of his 5th house.

Overall, my advice would be that if you really like the guy, go for it and give him enough rope to hang himself....LOL That way if he does turn out to be the playa you thought he was, you won't be so dissapointed.

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GemGemGem
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posted February 16, 2009 12:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemGemGem     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Dulce Luna! I'm surprised no one pointed out the Air Venus too! That usually gets a bad rep! So you have a similar chart to him, and you're a dork and not a player? That's hopeful! LOL!

I do like his personality a lot. I just don't want to go out with him and be disappointed. I'll sleep on it, and see how i feel about it in the morning!

Unfortunately, it seems dorks are the new players now.

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posted February 16, 2009 01:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for emma_duncan     Edit/Delete Message
aha
venus trine pluto
these ppl are magnets

and this is even more potent in a woman's chart

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MyVirgoMask
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posted February 16, 2009 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Not all dorks are players, but the ones who use their own dorkiness to charm are most certainly suspect

I personally love the dork factor, so I'd find it hard to resist....but resist I shall

GemGem, I think you should just do what feels right. Going out on a single date isn't a terrible thing, maybe you'll enjoy yourself...but if you don't trust yourself, then maybe it's best not to tempt fate (or dorks )

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