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venusmars
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posted February 20, 2009 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venusmars     Edit/Delete Message
I don't wanna brag or something..
But I have no limits..I am so tolerant to everyone and everything that I annoy myself..
I am bored of seeing everything from both sides..I easily loose my right and wrong perspective..

For ex.I really get angry to someone and I wanna show it but then I think and think again and miraculously I find an excuse for the one who drove me nuts 5 minutes ago..As if I dont have any right to get angry..
2 opposite people talking eachother inside me..

Is it because I am a libra??
ANY libra knowflakes feel the same??
Is it my libra stellium afflicted by saturn??
saturn square Mars and venus in libra???
or my uranus-sun conjunction(humanistic???)
or my saggie moon??

This is not a good thing..people get advantage of me..Oh my God I turned to be Jim Carey's MR.yes..

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Libralove09
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posted February 20, 2009 09:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message
im a bit like that, but i don't think iv got any aspects in common with you.

maybe were just nice. : )

i do have venus square saturn though.

and my venus is in libra.


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venusmars
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posted February 20, 2009 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venusmars     Edit/Delete Message
Hi LL09
If I remember wrong correct me,but I guess you have saturn sq.venus and your venus in libra??we both have leo asc?

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Libralove09
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posted February 20, 2009 09:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message
yeh we do!

my venus is in the 3rd

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venusmars
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posted February 20, 2009 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venusmars     Edit/Delete Message
mine too..

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Libralove09
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posted February 20, 2009 09:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message
maybe thats why we don't get aggressive towards people?

venus is influenceing the 3rd house of communications... seeing more sides to the problem?

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cheshirekat
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posted February 20, 2009 09:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I wish my Libra dad was like that O.o, it's usually his way because your way he decided was wrong before you even utter "My way.." out of your lips.

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posted February 20, 2009 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plutonian Persona     Edit/Delete Message
Could be the Sag moon too...Also any Neptune aspects? My fiancee has her Sag Moon conjunct Neptune and she is the most tolerant person I have ever met and she sees EVERYTHING from both sides so that she can never make her mind up. Such behavior, of course, drives me nuts!

Her Mercury is in Scorpio in the 3rd, could be the dual nature of the 3rd house...

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Pluto conjunct Sun/ASC
Pluto sextile Mars
Pluto square MC/Juno
Pluto trine Pallas
1st House Scorpio Moon, Mercury, Venus, & Uranus.
"We learn more about ourselves in death than we do when we are alive."

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venusmars
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posted February 20, 2009 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venusmars     Edit/Delete Message
yes maybe..
But I blame saturn for this..
Maybe deep inside,saturn afflicted people dont believe they are right..We don't give enough credit to ourselves..

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Libralove09
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posted February 20, 2009 09:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message
that does sound like me, venusmars.

my saturn hard aspects alot of my chart.

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venusmars
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posted February 20, 2009 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venusmars     Edit/Delete Message
Hmm..my mercury is in scorpio too..
Neptune conjunct NN square jupiter..

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augentier
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posted February 20, 2009 09:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message
i am this exact same way...people may do something that hurts or insults me but i will always, ALWAYS forgive them and tolerate them as they are no matter how "wrong" they are to others.

i also find it quite easy to see all sides and empathize..i will accept you as you are, even if something about you is what i have criticized before..i will always give you a chance and accept you as you are, because i see you as my equal..another human being.


do you have any Pisces in your chart? i think Pisces, Aquarius, Libra, and Sagittarius influence would lead to universal love/acceptance, compassion, etc.

I have Mars & Jupiter in Pisces, conjunct. Sagittarius Moon & Mercury..no Libra though!

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Capricorn sun / Scorpio rising / Sagittarius moon

Mercury:: Sagittarius
Venus::Scorpio
Mars::Pisces

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glamgem25
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posted February 20, 2009 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for glamgem25     Edit/Delete Message
I think its because Libra's even in a disagreements have the ability to look at both sides/point of view. Which quite frankly, is something I wish I could do more often!

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venusmars
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posted February 20, 2009 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venusmars     Edit/Delete Message
LL09,
Remember that you are a leo with leo asc..
It is a fixed sign.you can get advantage of it.your thoughts are more stable and stubborn.

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venusmars
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posted February 20, 2009 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venusmars     Edit/Delete Message
Hi augentier
I have jupiter in pisces trine mercury in scorpio..both retrograde..no aqua but strong uranus conjunctions with personal planets.
Wow there are people like me here

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venusmars
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posted February 20, 2009 10:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venusmars     Edit/Delete Message
It is too late here,I have to sleep.. bye..
Thanks for your replies so far
Lets discuss it a little more..because I wanna know whats wrong and correct it

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taurusvirgoleolady1974
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posted February 20, 2009 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for taurusvirgoleolady1974     Edit/Delete Message
venusmars i was going to put up the EXACT SAME POST! tvll in the same boat here friend. i really understand where your coming from. i wonder if there is something wrong with me because it is getting to be more frequent. i absolutely dont have an opinion on anything or anybody and ABSOLUTELY HATE GENERALIZATIONS. i always look at both sides and have gotten worse about making my mind up; made a big move to to to this school and told all my close family members about it, went through registration and everything. then i changed my mind abruptly. havent thought about it since then! i have libra/uranus/ 3rd house. and thats about it for libra. taury sun, virgo asc, leo moon, venus pisces and also juno and eros in pisces, 7th house. when someone talks about someone else in a negative manner i cant even listen. when they ask me an opinion i just say i dont have one and leave it alone. i used to be very opiniated when i was younger and now that i have been through more, i tend not to judge as much. the only thing i have opinions about are concrete matters. not feelings, beliefs, or too much of anything. too tolerant i think, maybe thats that virgo in me being critical of myself.
may also be sun in the 9th house.

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heart cakes
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posted February 21, 2009 12:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message
wow, trippy! i'm the same way! i'm trying really hard to actually become a more firmly opinionated person, cuz i figure it must be healthier than constant acquiescence and accepting whatever comes my way, including crap. i'm taking steps toward this and am finally learning the courage necessary to do this.

anyone have pluto transiting their 12th? could explain it. mine was there for like a decade and yeah that was the worst of it. now it's in my 1st making me become a little more selfish!

venusmars, what's your SN? neptune conj NN may account for it, to some degree. i have pisces SN and it's a big part of it, i know. also moon in taurus.. so absorbant, so calm.. arg! sag rising at neptune-venus midpoint (5 deg orb) also makes me really naive and optimistic about people and things i should NOT be optimistic about.

i hate hate HATE gossip and i find it extremely difficult to give my own emotions any credit because i think it's selfish. i can't talk about people i'm having problems with because i think it's unfair. but that leads to inertia on so many levels and i feel stuck, like i'm absorbing everyone else's feelings. etc etc. i never feel i have a right to be angry either. but i'm starting to be much more conscious of how unfair this is to ME and i'm working to change it. hope this thread continues

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venusmars
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posted February 21, 2009 05:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venusmars     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Taurusvirgo and heartcakes
we have amazing similarities..
my SN is in gemini..I hate gossip too and I guess it is a bad karma for me because of my gemini SN..

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koiflower
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posted February 21, 2009 06:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message
There are some poignant tips to your tolerance situation:

***Libran stellium
***Sag Moon
***3rd house

I think you answered your question!!

If it's bothering you, focus on your Leo Asc. Sometimes it feels nice to feel right. Identify where your integrity lies. Is it with being environmentally friendly? Is it by practicing humanitarian acts of kindness? There is always an opposing view. When your focus has an 'ideal' behind it, your will feel that it is 'right'. The other person's opinion won't feel so right.

That's what makes the fixed signs so strong. It is their belief system in operation.

It's worth a try. You're lucky to have Libran and Sag. It makes for a real people person, but also a defender of what is right!

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Libralove09
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posted February 21, 2009 07:58 AM           Edit/Delete Message
not sure if its significant, but my moon is in the 9th house, which belongs to sag? its on a pisces cusp though.

my mercuy is in a wide 10 orb conjunction with my venus, although i really think for me, its the libra venus in the 3rd, that makes the most sense to me for seeing more than one side to a situation.

for the tollerance, it could be a piscean thing?

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amowls
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posted February 21, 2009 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls     Edit/Delete Message
I am generally the exact same way (not so much on the internet but in real life I am WAYYYY too nice).

I blame it on my Libra Moon and Pisces Venus.

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good girl
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posted February 21, 2009 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for good girl     Edit/Delete Message
I am in the same boat. My libra moon squares capricorn sun. (it's ruler saturn is in the 7th in opposition to independant uranus). I think much of it (besides empathy) is that we need other people to be with us. To like us. They reflect on our self image. But mainly it is the need to have others around us. A horrible distortion of how other people need to interact with other, ours is hypersensitive. What would I be without another? I am so dependant on another for my self image, security, you name it. That is the reason I will bend over backwards to avoid making you mad. Heavens forbid you leave me.(Funny thing is: I don't have to even like you to feel this)

Interestingly enough saturn is currently transiting in my 1st and uranus transiting my 7th (the exact opposite of what I was born with) I have am begining to feel more assertive (in a fair, polite way). I can not tell you what a breath of fresh air this has become. I hope I get a bit more practice, because I like myself so much more when I simply deal honestly with others. (besides, judging from the way people treat me, there aren't many libra heavy/saturn 7th people around).

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emma_duncan
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posted February 21, 2009 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for emma_duncan     Edit/Delete Message
hey VENUSMARS

I have moon in libra, and my sun in leo is in 7th house, also my saturn is in 7th....
and i am heavily western hemisphere person chart-wsie as well as sign wise

and I SO UNDERSTAND YOU
when i was younger, it was even harder ...i would be extermely polite is social situations, will looke over rude behavior when i shld have put my foot down....my politeness was almost a weakness....i had difficult time(i still have it) telling ppl to stay in their limits cz i felt v uncomforatble with being rude
i find it very embarssing to be rude to others...i just cant disrespect other ppl.....i feel embrassed to embarass ppl.....7th house sun and saturn and moon in libra has messed me up...

but sometimes my leo sun saves me...when i lose it than i lose it....and then i become am very itimidating in an icy and stay away from me way...but till then i just ignore and feel vvvvvvv annoyed by my so much tolearance

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posted February 22, 2009 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for taurusvirgoleolady1974     Edit/Delete Message
SN gemini here, too. saggie NN makes us more tolerant of others and gossip is a no no!

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