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augentier
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posted February 23, 2009 11:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Those of you who have your Moon and Venus in seemingly incompatible or very "different" signs..how do you deal with expressing love when the wants of your Venus do not really mesh with the needs of your Moon?


For example:

I have Moon in Sagittarius and Venus in Scorpio. No aspect between them, but they are still very different. My Venus wants intensity, raw passion, very close intimacy, obsession, etc.

But my Moon needs a bit of freedom and to keep my options open. I need space and light-hearted, carefree adventure. My Moon just wants to be friends and have fun.

In my relationships I always want them to give me the intensity and passion but I also want them to let me be when I want. It's kind of confusing and has ultimately ruined my relationships.

Another example is Moon is Taurus square Venus in Aquarius. VERY different needs there.


So if you have this type of thing happening in your chart, how do you express love when it's real? What do you expect from your lover? Do you find it difficult to incorporate your Venus wants/likes and your Moon's needs?

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Capricorn sun / Scorpio rising / Sagittarius moon

Mercury:: Sagittarius
Venus::Scorpio
Mars::Pisces

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amowls
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posted February 23, 2009 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls     Edit/Delete Message
My Libran Moon loves equality, but my Pisces Venus shows love by being a martyr and sacrificing wants and needs for the other This can lead to one sided relationships and my Moon HATES it.

You can tell I really love you if I start sacrificing my life for you lol.

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Deliverance
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posted February 23, 2009 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deliverance     Edit/Delete Message
My Moon in 3rd Pisces needs lots of sleep, meditation & mind escapism, My Venus is 3rd Aquarius needs freedom (which enabled me to feed my moon without disruption). They shouldn't be compatible, but they work a treat for me.

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Libralove09
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posted February 23, 2009 12:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message
my moon and venus are in opposition aspect, by about 6 degrees, but they aren't balanced. as in, i favor libran traits over aries traits.

i prefer libra all together.

a bit of aries somewhere in there is nice though. a 'pushover' is not part of my 'ideal' lover.

its very lopsided, i express it libran.
although, my moon can influence it to be bolder, but not over the top or anything.

these two planets of mine square the same planets in my chart.

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blue moon
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posted February 23, 2009 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
Venus in Taurus likes to know where she stands, Mars in Aqua wants unpredictability.

How did I resolve this?

Well, first I worked out that not everything is about what I want.

Secondly, I married a Sun Aqua with Moon in Taurus. Not on purpose, it was many years after I thought about it.

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Dulce Luna
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posted February 23, 2009 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message
I have this problem too...great thread! My 8th house virgo moon needs some time to itself, needs to be inconspicious, and needs *genuine* intimacy (8th house aspect of it) while..... my 5th house gemini venus wants to socialize, be the life of everything, and make any type of superficial connection.

Its tricky, but the common point between the two is that they both have a huge independent streak...the idea of completely merging identities with someone freaks me out. I can never understand why my Sag friend does this but she has a scorpio venus conjunct pluto so yeah....

When its just a crush, you may only get the flirty gemini venus. If its a true bond, I end up expressing both in different ways. I can be my flirty/goofy/silly venus all the while doing little things for you, as I like doing little things for the people I care about (virgo moon).

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Atlenta
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posted February 23, 2009 03:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I don't like that my moon and venus are in incongruent signs. They're actually semi-sextile, in the same degree.

Moon @ 15' Virgo
Venus @ 15' Libra

Very conflicting, yes.. further, they're in the 8th and 9th house respectively, so it's a scorpio-sag thing too.. it's a push-pull between shyness and sociability, as well as intensity/ possessiveness and freedom/ liberty. Wow.. interesting. Both spectrums are very vital, and possibly combining both pairs may be quite a toughie.

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Mama Mia
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posted February 23, 2009 03:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I have this problem..Even though my moon and Venus is in the same sign, it conflicts alot with my Sun. I have Aqua moon and Venus and Pisces Sun..My Venus loves detached standback kind of men. Men that don't bother me. That pulls me in, but then once I am pulled in my Pisces Sun wants to be close and well usually the guys that I have chosen are really detached men emotionally, and either don't know how or won't get real close emotionall and then I am hurt..Not to mention I have Mars in Aries and when that placement wants what it wants nothing else matters..

So I have learned to wait and see if the detach man that I desire is just detached to a degree like me and will get close when comfy or is he just emotionally detach and wont get close no matter what..

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ErickaF
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posted February 23, 2009 06:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Moon is what we need to feel complete, to be geniunely happy. I am a scorpio, scorpio asc too but moon is in aquarius. i need freedom, space and i when it comes to relationships i identify fully with all that aquarius. if you just satisfy venus we won't be fully happy.

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Libralove09
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posted February 23, 2009 06:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message
if i make moon happy with a libra partner or some one who probably would't like arien placements, she probably won't be happy.

and making her feel happy means more to me than my self being happy.

venus - comes first.

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enchantress299
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posted February 23, 2009 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for enchantress299     Edit/Delete Message
I've got Venus in Virgo and the Moon in Aries. Talk about conflict. On the one hand, my Virgo Venus wants to be critical, take stock of the relationship and the partner, and go slow. My Moon in Aries wants to be spontaneous, jumping in head first with a fun-loving attitude. Doesn't help that I also have a Leo Mars.

When there's great chemistry, my fire wins out. Ultimately though, those type of relationships fizzle out just as quickly as they begin. When there's not, my Venus in Virgo wins out and I do try to take things slowly, but I tend to become more critical and it makes it much easier for me to walk away if the person isn't what I think I want. Either way, my relationships tend to be fairly short-lived.

Now, I also have Taurus on the DC, so that probably brings an added dimension of wanted stability and practicality in a relationship, as well as a true enjoyment of the other person. Honestly, that DC is probably the best way for me to blend my earth and fire energies. I should probably have a partner that is more stable and practical emotionally, but one who I can fully enjoy in a fun, spontaneous sort of way.

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Virgo Sun/Aries Moon/Scorpio Rising

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capnsag
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posted March 02, 2009 09:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I've been dwelling on this very thing!

I have a Sag moon and Aqua Venus. I'm intensely attracted to guys that are a bit aloof, cerebral, different/arty. But for my Sag moon, I need passion and declarations of never ending devotion and love and be their end-all-be-all! Can you imagine that coming from the lips of an Aquarian man?!? lol.

I didn't find a solution at all. My bf is beautiful with my moon. He's an Aries, with a Taurus moon (for my Cap sun) My Venus pouts a lot, but I NEED my moon to be happy. I've tried it the other way around, (my ex-marriage) and I was incredibly insecure and unhappy, which brought the whole relationship down. So while my current bf is physically nothing I'd be attracted to at all, he's becoming nothing short of amazing in my heart!

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babeefoxx
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posted March 02, 2009 10:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message
My Taurus venus wants uber romance, luxury, and showing and reminding me that I'm wanted and loved. I feel forgotten about when I'm not getting enough attention from my Virgo (which is difficult on its own, plus I'm in a long distance relationship). All my Cancer moon wants is to feel at home with him (I do), and to just have an honest and simple relationship.

That inflicted with my Aries sun, which cannot stand a boring relationship and craves variety is difficult. I sound like a mess!

I guess the only quality all three add up to is being an idealist. That I cannot argue!

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jenfullmoon
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posted March 02, 2009 11:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message
My Sag moon and Venus in Taurus pretty much have nothing in common. Only one side can win at a time, in my experience.

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