Topic: uranus conjunct chiron
posted February 28, 2009 08:29 AM
and also uruanus opposing my natal uranus. this transit is bringing back feelings i even forgot about
when i was six years old i came home from school, got off the bus and was walking down the street. i saw ambulances, police cars and everyone was in my yard crying, my neighbors. they took my mother away in the ambulance and kept her in the hospital for a few days, she had tried to kill herself. she was pretty messed up, as was my childhood, anyway, all growing up, she had this enormous depression and drug problem, and would threaten to off herself, oh, probobly on a weekly basis. that fear inside of me was almost something you could see. it was so ingrained into me that one day i would come home and my mother would be dead. i grew up and lived my life and have this estranged relationship with my mother, as she went religious crazy andtransferreed this fear another way, as in, god will strike you down anytime now as you aren't a good person, and many things happened through the years, where now i do protection excercises for me and my children. anyway, i never even knew how deeply it affected me until someone i love has a hard time dealing with pressure and said, i just want to blow my flipping brains out.
BOOM. i was six again. and now of course terrified that someday it will happen.
how do you heal that? this transit brought that unhealed part of me to the surface and i still have no idea the grown up way to deal with this paralizing fear.
i mean i know you can't control the actions of others. and here i am 43 years old and six on the inside worried that life events might be too much for someone i love. maybe just bringing it to the surface is healing, i don't know. i begged that person to NEVER ever say such a thing again, and tried to explain why and how deeply it effected me, and of course now gauging my words carefully and buffering from the stresses of life. but caretaker to the world is a hard place to put yourself. it was hard enough trying to take care of adults as a child. what a heavy responsibility to put on your self. life can be tough sometimes.
From: 1,981 mi East of Truth or Consequences NM
Registered: Apr 2009
posted February 28, 2009 10:15 AM
I feel for the late 60's babies right now. But, in the case of two that I know...they sport that Grand Trine. That is Jupiter in Cancer...all that Pisces, and Neptune in Scorp. One is a '67 version. Natal Pluto conj Uranus (Virgo). Chiron, Mercury, Venus, Moon, Saturn (Pisces) and an Aqua Sun for the 'stimulus' package. So, right now Mars, Jupiter, Mercury, Chiron, Nessus sitting on the Aqua. these peeps are in turn and burn. Ch-cha-changes anyone? T-Saturn adds a nice flavor.
I appreciate that you shared that story. I think your awareness factor, turning that negative memory around, holding it up to the light, personifies what allot of people are going through. Thats one of the great things about astrology...lets you put your finger on the map of the heavens and go,...there. Right there. Emotional triggers as powerful as that, are paralyzing. I am offering a virtual hug right now. Be well.
From: New Brighton, MN, USA
Registered: Apr 2009
posted February 28, 2009 10:37 AM
Hi sunshine ~
quote:Bingo. One of Uranus’ forte’s – suddenly bringing a long-buried item to light to be examined…..
i mean i know you can't control the actions of others. and here i am 43 years old and six on the inside worried that life events might be too much for someone i love. maybe just bringing it to the surface is healing
But what a difficult examination that forced appearance in the light is
And you’re right, you cannot control the actions of others. But you’ve made Mr. Sag (?) aware of how deeply this affects you so that perhaps he might moderate his behavior in this one area.
Sunshine, one day the loss of people very dear to you *will* happen – either you will lose them or they will lose you. And the living go on with living.
I have a tendency to feel (in a committed relationship) that I’m safe from the depredations of the world now that I have someone to lean on when I need to, and that is most emphatically not true. None of us are really safe, ever. Very few know what will happen tomorrow, or around the next corner. We just need to love for today, and if tomorrow comes and allows us another chance to love for tomorrow, then we are blessed.
The child in you who is still terrified of abandonment needs some hugs. What a difficult childhood, to be in a state of tension all the time about your mother disappearing
It must have made you very angry at times too, when she would threaten to remove herself from your life, and you were helpless to prevent it.....
You’re an extraordinarily strong woman, sunny – you’ll be fine
The Uranus opposition can be a difficult enough time by itself, but throwing Chiron into the pot too is a recipe for some major adjustment…..
But emotional growth is a good thing, and once reconciled into our belief systems the pain is soon gone, and there are still grandkids to tickle and hug and spoil ;-))
Loves & Hugs,
posted February 28, 2009 10:39 AM
CHIRON IN ASPECT TO URANUS
We are beyond the inner planets, and the elliptical fifty-year orbit of Chiron now becomes our primary center. The orbit of Sirius B around Sirius A is fifty years. We are letting go of the Sun and beginning to feel the galactic cosmic ray vibration. "Pentecost" means "the fiftieth" in Greek, and work with the Chirotic cycle brings the full comprehension of Pentecost. In the Hebrew ritual cycle, Pentecost is the fiftieth day of the harvest, and the festival carries all the power of the ancient harvest rituals. At the first Pentecost after the Ascension of Christ, the dynamic changed. The fire tongues of the Holy Ghost pierced the physical plane and entered the physical bodies of the Christians. This was a Chirotic event, and the meaning of human evolution was spiritualized into a birthing galactic connection. Now the emergence of the Chiron archetype is the Second Coming of Christos, a name unnervingly close to the name of the Centaur healer. The Second Coming is not a physical plane holocaust, an apocalypse; it is in fact the birth of the Chirotic force in the heart chakra of each healed human being.
Chiron aspects to Uranus need to be examined in light of the Chiron cycle to Uranus in general. As already discussed, Chiron's orbit is highly elliptical, and Chiron is in Aquarius through Taurus for about 28 years, and transits Gemini through Capricorn (8 signs) for about 32 years. It is in Aries for almost eight years, and it is in Virgo and Libra for less than two years each. Uranus spends about seven years in each sign. Therefore, Chiron makes some aspects quickly and then moves rapidly past Uranus. When Chiron is in Aquarius through Taurus, it can synchronize into a long-term aspect. For example, Chiron was square Uranus periodically from 1805 to 1835, and it is in exact opposition 41 times from 1952 to 1989. There were no aspects between Chiron and Uranus from 1900 to 1939. Therefore, with Chiron aspects to Uranus, often there is no data, and only speculations on historical trends are possible. Generally, aspects between Chiron and Uranus tend to increase the influence of Uranus.
Chiron was conjunct Uranus in 1796 when Chiron was in perihelion and probably within Saturn's orbit. The American Revolution occurred in 1776, the French Revolution in 1789, and Uranus was sighted in 1781—right in the middle. It would seem to me that a conjunction of Chiron and Saturn at the perihelion had a very conservative effect which tended to slow down the violently transformative impact of the discovery of Uranus. Chiron was close to a conjunction with Uranus during 1898 and 1899.
Chiron was sextile Uranus in 1800, 1894, and during November 1939 to July 1941. These natives are very opinionated, energetic, and obsessed with transformation. Chart 44 is of a healer who works with guided imagery in music. Chiron is in Cancer in the twelfth house sextile Uranus in the tenth, and she is extremely nurturing in her work. Uranus is also trine Neptune and sextile Chiron, and she is a powerful meditator and utilizes many forms of artistic expression. Generally speaking, this aspect seems to produce much attunement to art.
Chiron was square Uranus from 1805-1835 when there was much financial speculating in the world economy, and there was a worldwide economic crash in 1835 which caused depression until almost 1850. Chiron was square Uranus again in 1889 to 1891. Again there was much European and American speculation in the 1880s, and there was a currency collapse in America in 1893, with the economy in bad condition until 1897. Chiron was square Uranus again on and off in 1942 to 1944 during the depths of WWII. This aspect produces desperation and conflict in the personality, and an insatiable drive to transform consciousness.
These natives are courageous and cannot be stopped if they believe in something, and they are driven to get to the truth and meaning of any situation. The Chirotic force is intense, and the electrical transmutation of the body at the Uranus opposition is powerful. Chart 33, the channel of Atlantean symbols, has Chiron conjunct the North Node in the tenth house T-square Uranus opposite Mars in the first. When she is actively involved in higher consciousness work and teaching, she is calmed. Reviewing nine clients with Chiron square Uranus, all are unusually attuned to transformation and seem to be relaxed only when they are actively involved in the work. They all seem to be de-energized when involved in ordinary activities.
Chiron was trine Uranus in 1841 and 1842, in 1852 to 1855, and in November 1945 to October 1946. These natives seem to have difficulty finding their places in life; they seem to be confused about identifying the real meaning of their lives. The sanctuary worker, Chart 4, has had a well-organized career, but her work is often not close enough to what she really believes in. Of women clients with Chiron trine Uranus, I have noticed peculiar trends with childbearing. Four of them did not manage to have a child until nearly age 40, whether they were married or not, and now they are having quite a struggle with motherhood. It could be assumed that the upcoming Uranus opposition triggered the pregnancies, possibly to help open the heart chakra.
Chiron was quincunix Uranus a few times in 1844-46,1848-49, November-December of 1948, and July-September of 1949. This aspect is highly transmutative and creates a great vortex in consciousness for Uranian energy. These natives are extraordinary, and eventually will create something very special with this quincunx. Chart 7 is a weaver who is really struggling to bring in very Chirotic symbols. Her work is very powerful, but it is always an effort for her. Chiron in the seventh is quincunx Uranus in the second.
Chiron was opposite Uranus a few times from 1951 to 1989. This is an aspect of ferocious intensity which either bums the native out or pushes him or her to great transmutative levels. Drugs are a grave danger to this native, especially cocaine or psychedelic substances. Of eleven clients with this aspect, four seem to be hopelessly lost to drug addiction. Chart 8, a Hermetic teacher, has Chiron opposite Uranus, and this woman's skill with electrical body readjustment is great. The spiritual healer of Chart 2 is showing great powers with this aspect at an early age. The physician of Chart 21 is doing research to measure kundalini energy coursing through the body. Chart 41 belongs to a young artist who has been struggling to balance Chiron opposite Jupiter/Uranus/Mars. He is a person of remarkable awareness at a very early age. Chart 45 is of a glass blower who creates amazing spiraling forms of color within clear glass. It would seem that his fluid Uranian contact transmutes itself into bizarre manipulations of the physical plane.
The oppositions have been having a potent effect for a long time now. Observing the last five or six exact oppositions, l noticed that the accident rate increases, especially for airplanes. As this book gets ready to go to press, the Reagan government is tom apart by the Iran Contra Affair during the November 1986 opposition. The opposition stresses people out, makes them feel like everything is too much. Substance abuse is especially unwise during the opposition. Also, I suspect this aspect intensifies the potency of viral infections and may overstress the immune system. Many of the people dying of AIDS have this aspect natally, and they may weaken when it repeats. Again, we need much research at this time
that was from a past thread.
Registered: Mar 2011
posted June 29, 2012 05:34 PM
Thank you so much for your description/interpretation of Chiron aspects Uranus. They are the best I've heard. There isn't much information like you mentioned before. But I love your descriptions because it makes me understand a little better who I am or at least who I am spiritually.
I have natally Uranus in Libra in the 4th House ruled by Virgo/Mercury is in opposition to Chiron in Aries in 10th House ruled by Pisces/Neptune. Currently transiting Uranus in Aries is conjuncting natal Chiron.
Natally Uranus in 4th House is accompanied by Pluto in Virgo and Lilith in Virgo, my IC is also in Virgo. The umbilical cord was wrapped around my neck at birth. Before my mother became pregnant with me she endured a painful stillborn 42 1/2 years ago that she still has yet to overcome. I didn't meet my father until I was 13 years old. I was taught to despise this man. He lived with my family for about a year and a half which was a total disaster. The experience was rather painful and he was literally kicked out of our lives and it was not entirely his fault.
The house I grew up in was not a home to anyone. I mean that literally. It was a very bad place spiritually and emotionally! My stepfather was a notorious pedophile and sociopath who suffered from borderline personality disorder and mood personality disorder. My mother was mentally ill and at the time was receiving no treatment for schizophrenia and bipolar disorder. Being a child was no fun. I experienced a lack love, abandonment, neglect, ridicule, persecution, verbal and sexual abuse. There was never anyone to talk to or anyone who really cared.
In my chart, nChiron in 10th square nAscendant, nChiron opposition nPluto both in Virgo and in the same house in 4th. nChiron trine nNeptune in Sagittarius in 6th House. nChiron trine nJupiter in Scorpio in 6th House, nChiron square nMercury in Capricorn in 7th House and nChiron square nSun in Capricorn in 7th House. nUranus semisquare nJupiter, nUranus sesquiquadrate nMercury, and nUranus square nSun in Capricorn in 7th House. My 7th House is ruled by Sagittarius/Neptune.
I've never been on drugs, thank goodness for that. Ive been told that I'm a healer/counselor. I'm either deeply involved or becoming involved with the occult, magic/sorcery, the paranormal, astrology, Buddhism, feng shui, higher understanding of Christianity (studies of the Christ and other prophets), mythology, Shamanism, metaphysics, meditation, several exercise programs, vegetarian living/paleo diet, yoga, fasting, religion and history and politics they never taught us in school.
I have natally as mentioned before Chiron in 10th House opposition Uranus in 4th House, currently transiting Uranus in
Aries conjuncts Chiron in Aries in 10th House and at a young age I was very aware of things (spiritually) and cared deeply for humanity. I hope there is more you can elaborate on this placement.
Thank you in advance for any input you give.
Sun Capricorn 7th
Moon Aquarius 9th
Mercury Capricorn 7th
Venus Scorpio 6th
Mars Scorpio 5th
Jupiter Scorpio 6th
Saturn Taurus 11th
Uranus Libra 4th
Pluto Virgo 4th
North Node Aquarius 9th
Chiron Aries 10th
Lilith Virgo 4th
Vertex Scorpio 5th