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posted February 28, 2009 08:31 PM         

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do you think stelliums are sign of trouble.
i saw a chart of a person who commited suicide and he had a makor stellium in leo, then in the other thread about serial killers i have noticed stelliums in one of the chart
i am thinking maybe stelliums can be a potential for too much stress, imbalance of some sort which may manifest either as suicide, mental illness or psycopathic behavior

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posted February 28, 2009 08:33 PM         

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No. Stelliums only suggest a focus of energy in that particular sign. Gazillions of people have stelliums in their charts. It is very common.

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posted February 28, 2009 08:37 PM         

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the person i am talking abt had all personal planets (sun, moon, mercury, mars, venus) and jupiter in leo
i dont know time of birth so cant say which house these were and what was the asc...

but it struck me as maybe this too much leo energy might have burned him out,,,,
i think this needs to be looked into...

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posted February 28, 2009 08:38 PM         

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stelliums = trouble?

nooooo

(chuckles to herself)

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posted February 28, 2009 08:41 PM         

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Lara
wht is so funny? lately u seem to chuckle a lot at others question....i am assuming laughing gas acting up for u

if u have some useful explanation to reject my hypothesis...i am all ears...else your chuckles dont help or impress me at all

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posted February 28, 2009 08:42 PM         

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I'm inclined to think that when a stellium kicks in, it's a powerhouse of energy.

I have felt like my stellium has had a kick in the proverbial recently. I'm still reeling and am trying to find a calm balance somewhere.

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posted February 28, 2009 08:43 PM         

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emma_duncan

oops! No offence... i'm laughing because l have a big aries stellium and yes, it gets me into lots of trouble.

YES, l so think stelliums can be trouble - and NO, i don't think they can be attributed to murders, suicide etc.

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posted February 28, 2009 08:45 PM         

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no offense taken in that case....

what houses your stelliums occupy

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posted February 28, 2009 08:46 PM         

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I hope stelliums don't lead to suicide, since I have it in Gemini. I think they can lead to concentrated times of stress during hard transits, since the transiting planet will be in hard aspect to all those planets one after the other which can be very difficult.

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posted February 28, 2009 08:47 PM         

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no idea

either 12th/1st or 8th/9th probably

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posted February 28, 2009 08:51 PM         

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I'll try to expand for you emma - since you are investigating this topic area......

I have Venus/Uranus/Pluto in Virgo 5th house all within 2*

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posted February 28, 2009 08:51 PM         

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maybe harsh aspects to stelliums or transits can encourage certain tendencies,,,,

eg if uranus or pluto is involved in stellium in some harsh way...or if stellium is in 12th or 8th house....certain imbalances may occur....but of course...it does not mean ...e one with stellium is bound to be affected...its always nature _ nurture....

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posted February 28, 2009 08:52 PM           

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i don't think a stellium would be responsible for this Emma.

i think suicide, serial killing, etc is a ballance between outside forces of life (nature of background for the person, how everything in life has effected them, and how there chart has responded to it, and there needs and desires. then this can manifest into all sorts, such as suicide or serial killings. thats my theory)

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posted February 28, 2009 08:54 PM         

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thank u koiflower

5th house might be more constructive and easier to handle...we have to see the signs as well....

and other aspects and the envoronment a person is brought up in

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posted February 28, 2009 10:19 PM         

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I've been told recently that my stellium is 'loose'
It's in Libra, in the 6th house...Uranus, Pluto, Mercury. I do a lot of spiritual counseling esp in the areas of love relationships. Soooo, that might be part of it?

Soon Saturn will do his white glove inspection on my stellium and start to tsk tsk his way through my 6th...I'm not looking forward to that

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posted February 28, 2009 11:22 PM         

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what kind of planets do you have in stelliums

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posted February 28, 2009 11:57 PM         

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i think stellium CAN be one of the many elements for such things, NOT necessarily THE reason. according to my mom, transits to a stelliumed house that already has dangerous aspects from Mars or Uranus can trigger freak accidents etc, and if it's coupled with other elements like Mercury retrograde and void course of the moon etc, etc. but it's really as rare as other possibilities that may trigger accidents.

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posted March 01, 2009 12:30 AM         

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Plenty of people have stelliums of personal planets.

All babies born last month had huge Aquarius stelliums, will they all be murderers or suicidal?

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posted March 01, 2009 12:38 AM         

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Yes. All of them are murderers.

I actually thought grand trines were more associated with that....check out the other thread, there's a weird pattern with the grand trines and serial killers. Not all of course, but it makes it easy to kill or something... I don't know.

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posted March 01, 2009 12:39 AM         

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Oh shi!!!

I have a grand trine in Air :X Not known to be most emphatic element.

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posted March 01, 2009 12:52 AM         

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Trouble? Serials killers? Murders? Hmmm. My Aries stellium is thinking now. Perhaps this thread has unlocked potential? Or is that, unleashed? Be afraid. Be very afraid.

***PA's mum comes along and pulls plastic spoon from her hands and sends her to corner of room***

Time out. Damn. There goes any plans.

Personally - murder, suicide, etc? No. Trouble? Well, yes, but only in the form of harmless mischief.

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posted March 01, 2009 12:53 AM         

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It would make sense to find a grand trine in a serial killer's chart, if one really thought about it. In perhaps a Ted Bundy-like serial killer who really just did it 'because' and had no problem with it. disclaimer: not saying its a marker.

The whole stellium business though, I'm not so sure about. I think there may be a potential for alot of stress if the stellium is afflicted by a malefic in the natal or by transit but I can't say for sure if its enough to cause suicide or any other mental illness but I guess its possible.

I have a 12th house stellium that pluto had began going through some time back and its not been pretty inside and out.

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posted March 01, 2009 01:31 AM         

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why dont u put up the chart of this suicidal person so we can see it?

And thats only 1 person u know in that situation as an example. Maybe it was the only thing you took notice of but i have seen 8th house ruler being badly afflicted and people have comitted suicide along with a neptune trnsit ..

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Sun.. Cancer

Moon.. Gemini

Mars.. Cancer

Mercury.. Cancer

Venus.. Leo

Ascendant....... Virgo

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posted March 01, 2009 01:48 AM           

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I have a stellium, but the only time where I feel like killing someone would be when they afflict my moon/mars aspect.
Methinks the stellium helps to tone it down, actually, though it can help focus the energy towards the intent.

Suicide is a different thing. There's that intolerable stellium, but something needs to trigger it. Alot of stellium people suffer in silence and dont kill themselves, lolx. There's a difference between mulling over it and doing it.

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posted March 01, 2009 01:51 AM         

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I did read somehwere years ago that a concentration of one sign actually settles it down rather than amplifies it.

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