posted March 05, 2009 02:06 AM            

Mars pursues traditionally and Venus may or may not want Mars. But Mars is *generally* the aggressor (that's you in this case).

And of course he could be lying.

That said, look at his Venus. Where is she in his chart? How important is Venus to HIM? Look at his 1st house ruler - that's usually indicative of sexual attraction. Look at the rulers of the 5th, 7th, and 8th as well. Look at the overlays. But it's virtually impossible to isolate a single aspect and rule it as definite sexual attraction, IMO.

posted March 05, 2009 02:45 AM              

Maybe this aspect just wasn`t "active" at that time?

EDIT:
I also agree with MVM on the importance to look at houserulers.

posted March 05, 2009 03:05 AM            

For another astrological approach, why not try imagining that instead of being this man, the Venus person is your granny or a much older man who is your professor, or someone you simply don't find attractive. How can you imagine the energy working then?

As well as sex and romance, Mars and Venus symbolise how we go about things and what we like. Maybe he likes how you go about things, it could be that simple.

The sign could be significant. For example, Mars in Virgo people are often very artistic, the high standards and creative urges of Virgo Venus at the same degree could be a strong link between two people. Friends, lovers or relatives.

This is not to say that he isn't lying or in denial. He might be, but just as much I think it is worth thinking about how else the energies might work when you are together. Even in an established relationship this is the case ~ for example, I have Mars/Venus on my synastry chart in a Square. It can manifest in arguments about where we are going to eat as much as more charming outlets of energy (tightward Taurus vs extravagant Leo).

posted March 05, 2009 03:52 AM            

i put it this way:

if i have this aspect, and i genuinely find her attractive, this aspect boosts that feeling a lot.

the orb helps.

posted March 05, 2009 05:47 AM              

I had colleague with his Mars exact on my Venus: I didn't like him at all. I have never liked people with Mars in good aspect with my Venus. It was always Pluto: either my Pluto in trine with his Venus or his Pluto in trine with my Venus.
The same thing was with my Mars in his Venus.

Buena

posted March 05, 2009 07:02 AM              

I think all this Venus/mars conjunct or in fact most conjuncting aspects are a load of bull anyway.

posted March 05, 2009 07:05 AM              

I donīt agree with your take on conjunctions at all. They are all valid.
BUT you have to see the big picture; the other planets of course will modify this as I tried to explain.

you will not have an isolated Moon-Venus conjunction or Venus-mars conjunction.

In my case if my Venus is conjunct a guy`s Mars there is very strong attraction on my part, but my Pluto also squares it. I guess it would be different if there was Saturn or neptune squaring it.

posted March 05, 2009 08:46 AM              

I start thinking more and more, that maybe the progressed positions "overpower" the potential that is written in the natals.

And some years ago when I started reading the book, I didn`t even believe secondary progression works. lol

But the results show it does (at least most of the times; there is no 100% with such theories).
I`m not completely sure if progressions work in terms of the planetary positions in the signs, but the aspects definitely work.

On top of that may I ask what houses your Mars and Venus rule?

DB,

with Mars
as ruler of the 7th house, Mars is related to all 7th housematters, especially relationships, it`s your "individual" Venus so to speak.

posted March 05, 2009 09:10 AM            

OooOo, I think I need to look deeper into that! very interesting!

posted March 05, 2009 09:22 AM            

I knew a gal whose Venus conjunct my Mars with 5 minutes of arc, and it was the most exact aspect in our synastry. Sexual attraction was no problem.

I knew gals whose Venus conjuncted,trine my Ascendant, and romantic attraction was definitely there. They definitely liked my physical appearance,finding me attractive looking.

My exgirlfriend's Venus trine my Ascendant with 3 minutes of arc, and romantic attraction was definitely there. She definitely liked my physical appearance and saw nothing wrong with it.

I knew these gals would be attracted to me because of the synastry.
I am very sure that Venus plays a part.

btw If I was married, and I met a gal whose Mars conjunct my Venus, I wouldn't be attracted to her because I'd be too much in love with my wife unless it's an unhappy marriage if so I would get a divorce.

I haven't been married yet,and I am 37 years old. A lot of people in my family were married in their 20's. I think that I am just a late bloomer. I am pretty much a late bloomer in most things. My time for marriage and children will come. In a way, I am lucky that I am not divorced nor have children with women that I am together with.

but yeah....if a person is happily married, it's very likely they won't be attracted to others regardless if there are aspects for romantic, sexual attraction.

posted March 05, 2009 10:05 AM              

"your theory is very interesting DD (you should start a new thread on it, I think), my secondary progressed Mars/Venus just moved into Taurus AND I got attracted to someone whose natal Mars is in the same degree as my progressed Venus/Mars! his secondary progressed Sun makes an exact trine to my natal Venus/Mars! my secondary progressed Sun is conj their natal anti-vertex by degree! "

WOW! That sounds potentially very very hot.

So let me get this straight:
your pr Venus conjunct his Mars
his pr Sun trine your Venus

Those would be the most relevant connection for progressed synastry.
Especially the Sun-Venus-trine seems to happen at the outset of relationships, particularly if there is a wish to "settle down" with each other. It may not be the most exciting aspect, but it gives comfort and ease and affection.
The Venus-mars one of course is very hot (even though it seems, interestingly the progressed Venus-Mars-trine happens even more often in passionate love affairs).

I once started a thread on progressed synastry. I will bump it in the astro 2 forum. I`m still interested in more examples and synastry charts to verify or falsify that theory.

BTW my progressed Moon is on 10 Taurus at the moment and the time the progressed Moon entered Taurus, I started feeling a lot calmer and secure in myself, not to mention, pretty lazy in a physical sense (avoiding sports even more than I did before if that is possible), and sensual.
Really started to perceive my surroundings in a completely different way. Usually my Aquarius Moon is very detached and intellectual, and even though I`m still analytical through and through, I started "grasping" reality more through my senses than before.

posted March 05, 2009 12:26 PM            

With this guy I've been dealing with a major attraction to (ho-hum synastry other than Pluto square Venus and tight, mutual Mars-Eros contacts):

My PSun conjunct his Mars and Venus
MyP Venus conjunct his Eros
My P Pluto conjunct his Venus
His P Sun, Venus, Pluto on my MC
His P node conjunct my Pluto
His P Jupiter conjunct my node
His P eros conjunct my Pluto

posted March 05, 2009 01:10 PM            

I prefer using 3 degree orb for conjunction,opposition,square,trine
a 2 degree orb for sextile
a 1 degree orb for semisquare,sesquiquadrate,quincunx,semisextile

I use much smaller orbs for outerplanets
I just can't see using orbs no more than 2 degrees for Uranus. I can't see using orbs no more than 1 degree for Neptune and Pluto. I would probably use no more than 30 minutes of arc for Pluto.

I believe that the farther an outer planet is, the tighter the orb should be......considering that the more outer the object,the slower it moves,the more generational it is.

I notice a lot of people like to use 5 degree orbs for Pluto. I just couldn't use orbs that wide. What about Eris which is a larger object than Pluto. Its orb is about twice as long as Pluto's. I don't think that we can use 5 degree orbs for Eris nor the other kuiper belt objects for that matter. I'd use no more than half a degree orb for Eris. Maybe even more than 15 minutes of arc. Sedna would require much smaller orbs with it's over 10,000 year orbit. It would be more like 10 minutes of arc. Maybe no more than 5 minutes of arc.

I believe that it's possible that some people are feeling wide orbed Pluto aspects in synastry because there could be a synastry aspect that involves one of Pluto's fellow kuiper belt objects. It could also be a midpoint configuration that involves Pluto like Venus conjunct Mars/Pluto midpoint or Sun conjunct Pluto/Midheaven.

People could be feeling wide orbed outerplanet synastry aspects because of midpoint configurations that involve an outerplanet like Sun conjunct Moon/Uranus or Venus oppose Mars/Neptune.