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glamgem25
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posted March 25, 2009 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for glamgem25     Edit/Delete Message
This is my boyfriend from HS and after 12 years...he still cannot get over me cheating on him. We were children....what aspects show holding a grudge for soooooo long?

Sun Leo 29.50 Ascendant Virgo 16.49
Moon Virgo 8.56 II Libra 14.17
Mercury Leo 12.12 III Scorpio 14.40
Venus Leo 29.18 IV Sagittarius 16.18
Mars Cancer 9.51 V Capricorn 17.44
Jupiter Leo 22.17 VI Aquarius 18.10
Saturn Virgo 15.01 VII Pisces 16.49
Uranus Scorpio 17.16 VIII Aries 14.17
Neptune Sagittarius 17.45 IX Taurus 14.40
Pluto Libra 17.20 Midheaven Gemini 16.18
Lilith Virgo 4.58 XI Cancer 17.44
Asc node Virgo 8.25 XII Leo 18.10

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rubi001
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posted March 25, 2009 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rubi001     Edit/Delete Message
I wouldnt say it is any particular aspect other than the fact that he has a lot of Leo. You know how they get when their pride is hurt, they never let it go. you can insult them or beat them up and they forgive, but if you hurt their pride and "embarass" them in any way, you are on the black list for life.

also he has Sun conjunct Venus in Leo, so the Leo(ego) +Sun (more Ego)+ venus (human relationships)= there is your answer.

Just flatter him a lot lol.

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glamgem25
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posted March 25, 2009 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for glamgem25     Edit/Delete Message
And by the way...we have some great synastry but after all this time, he still can't get over it!

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glamgem25
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posted March 25, 2009 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for glamgem25     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Rubi....sounds good! If he will let me close enough to flatter lol

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rubi001
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posted March 25, 2009 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rubi001     Edit/Delete Message
worship him glamgem! no just kidding.

seriously all the leo guys need is some attention, pretend he is the best thing out there, tell him his hair looks amazing, and that the guy you cheated on him with isnt a fraction of what he is. bla bla bla.
all they need is reassurance.

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glamgem25
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posted March 25, 2009 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for glamgem25     Edit/Delete Message
The weirdest thing besides the fact that it happened when we were kids is that he will call me and wants to be close like we were (dated for 3 years in HS) but won't allow himself to get past it so he ends up being ugly. Why even call and reconnect if you are just gonna bring it all up again?

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rubi001
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posted March 25, 2009 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rubi001     Edit/Delete Message
very true. maybe you can just tell him to get over it. simple as that.
leo men like women who stand up to them.

also you might want to take a look at his saturn in virgo, VII in pisces. it looks like something, but i dont know what it means. saturn in the VII is usually not very good for love matters, so i hear.
im not sure though.

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glamgem25
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posted March 25, 2009 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for glamgem25     Edit/Delete Message
This is all new to me..thanks for your input!

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amowls
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posted March 26, 2009 04:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls     Edit/Delete Message
Sun in Leo at a critical degree, lol. You must've really hurt his ego.

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glamgem25
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posted March 26, 2009 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for glamgem25     Edit/Delete Message
I guess so but then again we were kids....he should be able to get over that now that we are adults and 12 years have gone by! Geez!!

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Dulce Luna
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posted March 26, 2009 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message
Never underestimate the ability of a person with a fixed stellium to hold grudges...especially one with a cancer mars. It might be YEARS before they forgive someone and with the fixed energy being leonine, they'd probably rather die than forgive such an infraction against their ego.

One thing I actually agree with though is that him calling you is unneccesary. Me truly holding a grudge against someone means they no longer exist to me so I don't understand his logic in calling you. If he knows its a chance in hell he'll forgive you he should leave you alone and get on with his life already ffs.

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glamgem25
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posted March 26, 2009 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for glamgem25     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah but he will only call every now and then...and he likes to brag..so maybe he is just calling to say hey look at my life and stuff and doesn't necessarily want anything from me.

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Dulce Luna
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posted March 26, 2009 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, then your best bet is to ignore him. I don't think anything good could come out of reconnecting with him if he brings that kind of energy.

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LadyNeptune
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posted March 26, 2009 07:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I have someting similiar but he has a lot of scorpio nd I just chalked it up to that. And that he's a psychopath.

It's annoying, isn't it? I do like to think that he's constantly hurting himself over it though. He is very vengeful, still, which is why I feel this way. And we were never committed, so I didn't really cheat on him anyway...

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glamgem25
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posted March 26, 2009 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for glamgem25     Edit/Delete Message
It's very annoying and I'm not gonna waste anymore time on him. I just know if it was reversed, I would have forgiven and moved on.

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LadyNeptune
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posted March 26, 2009 09:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Exactly. It's so dumb and they look dumb for doing it. I always wonder, will he ever realize how pathetic he is...?

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MoonPixie
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posted March 26, 2009 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonPixie     Edit/Delete Message
Most fixed signs tend to hold onto their feelings (i.e. grudges) for a long time. Mars in Cancer may be exacerbating that trait as well.

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glamgem25
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posted March 27, 2009 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for glamgem25     Edit/Delete Message
But that confuses me....does that mean he still has feelings for ME or is just holding onto the past because of the grudge?

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Astra
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posted March 27, 2009 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message
Sorry to put it bluntly, but he doesn't love you anymore. He loves the old memory he had of you before you cheated, but that's it. His attempts at reconnecting with you are just his way of reliving the past. The problem with doing this is that it also reminds him of your cheating.

If I were you I would tell him that you both were just kids back then and you're sorry that you cheated, but you don't want to deal with his drama queen antics anymore. Tell him to leave the past in the past and move on.

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glamgem25
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posted March 27, 2009 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for glamgem25     Edit/Delete Message
I think you hit it on the head Astra!! great advice!!

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glamgem25
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posted March 27, 2009 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for glamgem25     Edit/Delete Message
I think you hit it on the head Astra!! great advice!!

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lalalinda
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posted March 27, 2009 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message
It's Mars in Cancer
he'll never get over it
you did it, it's part of your character
(or so Mars in Cancer believes)

water signs hold on to grudges forever
especially Cancer.

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Astra
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posted March 27, 2009 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message
You're very welcome, glamgem!

I have to admit that I can hold grudges for a very long time (my record is 10 years) despite being a Gemini. That's why I know there is nothing really you can do or say to get him to forget your cheating. It's up to him to decide whether he wants to forgive.

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