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darkdreamer
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posted March 26, 2009 10:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message
I was actually thinking about one actor and one of his roles: Jude and Lord Alfred Douglas, or known as "Bosie".

I was actually comparing their charts, and would like your input on this.



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darkdreamer
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posted March 26, 2009 10:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Oops the astrology:


Bosie`s Sun conjuncts Jude`s Moon
Bosie`s Moon conjuncts Jude`s Pluto
Bosie`s Mars opposes Jude`s Dr Venus
Bosie`s Saturn opposes Jude`s Dr Chiron and DR DNA
Bosie`s SAturn conjuncts Jude`s DR IC
Bosie`s NN conjuncts Jude`s SN (!)
Bosie`s SN conjuncts Jude`s Jupiter, Destinn and Shakespeare
Bosie`s SN conjuncts Jude`s Dr Moon, too
Bosie`s Chiron opposes Jude`s Pluto
Bosie`s Karma conjuncts Jude`s Dr Karma
Bosie`s DNA opposes Jude`s Dr Anubis
Bosie`s Siva conjuncts Jude`s SN
Bosie`s Siva opposes Jude`s DR Moon
Bosie`s Anubis conjuncts Jude`s Dr Anubis
Bosie`s ASC conjuncts Jude`s Dr Chiron
Bosie`s MC almost exactly conjuncts Jude`s Dr ASC

Bosie`s Dr Sun conjuncts Jude`s SN precisely
Bosie`s Dr Sun opposes Jude`s Shakespeare and Destinn and Lilith and so on
Bosie`s Dr Moon exactly oposes Jude`s Karma
Bosie`s Dr Moon opposes Jude`s Dr Pluto
Bosie`s Dr Moon conjuncts Jude`s DR IC
Bosie`s Dr Venus opposes Jude`s Sun and conjuncts his Valentine
Bosie`s Dr Venus opposes Jude`s Dr Anubis
Bosie`s Dr Chiron conjuncts Jude`s Karma and Dr Pluto and Dr MC
Bosie`s DR DNA conjuncts Jude`s Dr Sun and Dr Kaali exactly
Bosie`s DR DNA oppöoses Jude`s Dr Anubis
Bosie`s DR Anubis conjuncts Jude`s Dr Valentine and opposes his DR Sun / Kaali


I`m not sure what exactly I am looking here, but it looks creepy almost.

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darkdreamer
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posted March 26, 2009 10:42 AM           Edit/Delete Message
It gets actually even a bit funnier, if I compare my own chart to the chart of Olive Custance, who happened to have been Alfie`s, I mean Lord Douglas` wife.

Her Sun closely conjuncts my Moon
Her Moon conjuncts my DNA and opposes my Chiron
Her Venus conjuncts my Moon
Her Mars conjuncts my Dr Mars and ASC
her Saturn opposes my Dr Chiron
her Pluto conjuncts my Dr Anubis
her SN conjunts my Dr Vertex
her Chiron exactly conjuncts my Dr Sun
her Karma exactly conjuncts my Antivertex
her Valentine conjuncts my Chiron and opposes my DNA
her Siva/ Kaali-conjunction falls on my DR Mars, ASC
her Anubis absolutely exactly conjuncts my DNA (along with Jude´s Anubis and conjunct Bosie`s Venus and Amor. Wow!)

her Dr Sun conjuncts my Venus
her Dr Venus exactly conjuncts my Venus
her DR Mars conjuncts my Moon
her Dr Saturn conjuncts my Sun
her Dr Pluto opposes my Pluto
her dr Karma conjuncts my True Node
her Dr Destinn conjuncts my Dr DNA
her Dr Kaali / Siva exactly conjuncts my Moon

I`m not even sure why I posted that here. But would like to hear your thoughts on it anyway.


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Iqhunk
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posted March 26, 2009 04:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Stunning resemblance and synastry, looks like a soul-family connection here. Let me look into this in detail over the weekend...

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Lara
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posted March 26, 2009 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Yes they look so alike it's frightening!!!

DD - love the way you were drooling over his pics so much you forgot the most important bit!

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darkdreamer
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posted March 26, 2009 05:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Thanks, IQ. I very much appreciate it. I thought I was the only one spotting the resemblance, but am glad I am obviously not crazy.

It gets even freakier. Olive Custance bears some resemblance to my Great Grandmother and maternal grandmother
It`s not as striking as in the case of Jude and Bosie, but the resemblance is there.

And speaking of that synastry between Jude and Bosie, well, maybe that helped him portraying this character so convincingly.

lara,

I wasn`t drooling. Okay, maybe just a little bit.

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posted March 28, 2009 02:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
Doesn't explain Stephen Fry and Oscar though LOL.

You look for actors that that look like the character, and if not, then display characteristics that could be identified as the character. I don't think it's a synastry thing unless you are looking from an actor's point of view such that the actor has a deep affinity with the character/person (not sure what Jude thought of Bosie).

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Iqhunk
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posted March 28, 2009 03:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Hi DD,
Such accurate synastry cannot be accidental.
What is the occult reason for anyone to develop an affinity to anything?
The Law of Karma i.e past life interactions.
Bosie had many young male lovers.
Was Jude and the musician's past lifelines one of them?
Could Jude have been Bosie? Jude's strong Kaali suggests a top bloodline of assured success thanks to occult mentors.

Look at some of Jude's roles. There are very strong gay undercurrents in:
Gattaca
Sleuth
Talented Mr. Ripley
And maybe the new Sherlock Homles movie

He is a 100% gay icon in Britain.
Jude himself joked that he is not gay, but just British!

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darkdreamer
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posted March 29, 2009 05:56 AM           Edit/Delete Message
23,

yes, I think that was what I was looking for, for that affinity of jude to the role (or the historical person behind the role). I think actors are drawn to roles for a reason (even though sometimes it`s jsut money ).

And therefor I think it is definitely a synastry-thing. As synastry is not limited to romantic relationships.


What did you mean with the comment about Stephen / Oscar? You think we should check that synastry, too?

IQ,


"Such accurate synastry cannot be accidental."
Yes, I was pretty overwhelmed, when I saw that. It`s just a little bit creepy.


"Bosie had many young male lovers.
Was Jude and the musician's past lifelines one of them?"
Why do you mention the musician just now?
Well, actually the ex-partner of the musician looks like having come directly from those times. Don`t know, there`s something very "transparent" about him; he also has a Sun-Kaali-aspect (square from 00° Capricorn to 1° Aries I think).

But the musician himself doesn`t really strike me as this type. Maybe it`s just that he seems to be very very grounded (must be his Moon and Venus in Taurus and Sun and Mercury in Aries)


"Could Jude have been Bosie?"
That is the question, I had in mind, when I saw that.
But there is probably no way to answer that.


"Look at some of Jude's roles. There are very strong gay undercurrents in:
Gattaca
Sleuth
Talented Mr. Ripley"
Yes, I definitely noticed that. And I was thinking that either it is something that is rumbling underneath inside him, or something that stems from the past. Like a halfforgotten memory.


I also found Bosie`s biography pretty interesting. Cause after the ultimate break up with Oscar, he made a 180° turn and pretty much denied that he ever had the feelings, he definitely had for Oscar.
Well, selfdenial does happen sometimes.
But on the other hand his marriage to Olive Custance seems to have been a very stormy and passionate one, which just seems pretty weird.


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Lara
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posted March 29, 2009 08:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Stephen Fry and Oscar Wilde are like 2 peas in the same pod! More so than Jude...


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darkdreamer
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posted March 29, 2009 08:17 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Yes, I totally agree, Lara. Hmm, I`m going to dig out these charts one time or the other, I think.

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darkdreamer
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posted March 29, 2009 12:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I`m just having a look at the comparision between Stephen Frears and Oscar Wilde.

Oscar`s Saturn conjuncts Stephen`s Kaali
Oscar`s NN conjuncts STephen`s Saturn and Karma
Oscar`s Chiron opposes Stephen`s Mercury and Venus
Oscar`s MC conjunct Stephen`s Kaali
Oscar`s Karma conjuncts Stephen`s Kaali
Oscar`s DNA conjuncts Stephen`s Pluto, Chiron and DNA

But then again there were very tight links from his chart to my own chart, too.

His Sun conjunct my DNA, Musa and Sappho and opposing my Chiron
his MOon opposing my Moon
his Venus conjunct my Pluto
his Mars conjunct my Mars
his Saturn conjunct my Karma exactly (actually it is on the precise same degree as Jude`s Saturn )
his Saturn also conjunct my Kaali
his Chiron opposes my Saturn
his Karma exactly conjuncts my Karma and also conjuncts my Kaali
his Kaali opposes my Saturn
his Siva conjuncts my Siva
his DSC conjuncts my Juno
his MC conjuncts my SN exactly
his IC conjuncts my ASC and Neptune


I thought that was interesting, even though highly strange.

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darkdreamer
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posted March 29, 2009 12:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I thought, I`d repeat the synastric links from the above posts without the Draco`s to get a clearer picture.

Bosie - Jude

Bosie`s Sun conjuncts Jude`s Moon
Bosie`s Moon conjuncts Jude`s Pluto
Bosie`s NN conjuncts Jude`s SN (!)
Bosie`s SN conjuncts Jude`s Jupiter, Destinn and Shakespeare
Bosie`s Chiron opposes Jude`s Pluto
Bosie`s Siva conjuncts Jude`s SN


Actually his comparision with Oscar looks even freakier:

Oscar`s Sun conjuncts Jude`s Uranus and Anubis

Oscar`s Venus conjuncts Jude`s MC precisely
Oscar`s Venus opposes Jude`s DNA

Oscar`s Mars conjuncts Jude`s Neptune

Oscar`s IC conjuncts Jude`s ASC and Venus

Oscar`s Chiron, Jupiter and Kaali conjunct Jude`s Jupiter, NN, Lilith, Destinn and Shakespeare

Oscar`s Saturn and Karma exactly conjuncts Jude`s Saturn
Oscar`s Saturn and Karma opposes Jude`s Venus

Oscar`s MC conjuncts Jude`s Saturn

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