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emma_duncan
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posted March 29, 2009 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for emma_duncan     Edit/Delete Message
western hemisphere people (sign-wise; from cancer to sag, house-wise from 4th to 9th house) are more relationship and others oriented than eastern. WHP need and want more close bond and less relational freedon than EHP

EHP are more self-suuficient and are capable of initiating things independtly. They like to solve their problems and matters on their own.

extreme western emphasis can make one codependent.

analyze your chart placement and signs..and share whether you agree.

though i am not v clear on how sign placement would be differnt from house emphasis. what if all your signs are western but they are in 10 to 3rd house...

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posted March 29, 2009 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls     Edit/Delete Message
I think in terms of whether someone is more western or eastern, you should look more at what planets your houses are in rather than what planets are in western signs.

I have 8 planets in my western half, and 3 (including chiron) in my eastern half.

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posted March 29, 2009 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for emma_duncan     Edit/Delete Message
do do u think you are more relationship oriented?

i am also v western oriented person...and i think i like it better when i work in partnerships...

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posted March 29, 2009 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mblover     Edit/Delete Message
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snohawk1
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posted March 29, 2009 06:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I'm certainly not in tune with your analogy.

Eastern half of the planet: setting where all that conquering crap happened, everybody's in a crazy system all that. What's happening on the western half of the planet at that time? Aboriginals walking around living of the land very seldomly destructive and so forth. The East came to the West, so it can be assumed that the habits of those born there are what is here now. (saying this from the western hemisphere myself)

On the other hand.. mass systems and such could well be made out of destructive greedy etc habits looking for their best interests independently not care about others Capricorny and all that, while western aboriginals seem to have had highly more moral livings connected to everything.

I Can't see this as being an able reality by way of being subject to other planets, sun etc so perhaps it is part of what Earth represents as Venus represents love, beauty and society and that, except divided really well, since we're so close.

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posted March 29, 2009 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for emma_duncan     Edit/Delete Message
i am totally lost here?

what r u talking abt?

eastern and western hemispheres are the technical terms used by astrologers. it has got nothing to do with eastern and western people

and i dont understand you dont agree with terminology or you dont agree that such patterns in natal chart can affect ones orientation towards other people and tasks?

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posted March 29, 2009 07:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message
What do you mean?

When referring to Western Hemisphere, you mean of the planet earth, right? and it effecting the behavior/what have you of those born there, right? and thus humans originated at the west being compared to humans originated at the west makes sense to me..


Wait wait wait wait.. You mean the left side of the chart, if Aries if on the bottom of ascendant? That's a simple geometrical predicament, surely already explored and known. I have a book with he signs broken up into chunks like that with overlaying themes.

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posted March 29, 2009 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for emma_duncan     Edit/Delete Message
yes i mean on chart as i said in my first post..not on actual earth

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Well, I 've heard this, but it's completely false in my case. I have all of my planets on the right side and I am so not into people. I'm very introverted.

I'm completely self-contained compared to most people. I am very self-sufficient and have been so from a young age.


Before anyone asks, I am not any of the signs that are introverted, either. I'm all air and fire, actually.

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posted March 29, 2009 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for emma_duncan     Edit/Delete Message
so what are the observations

according to amy keehn the love style and emotional needs of WHP are entirlely different from EHP. and a v WHP will be v incompatible with v EHP

in fact according to her this hemisphere balance should be one of the key points in analyzing relationships.

any thoughts, experiences?

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posted March 29, 2009 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for emma_duncan     Edit/Delete Message
Ladyneptune, what about signs of your personal planets, as amy keehn places more focus on signs and not houses.

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LadyNeptune
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posted March 29, 2009 08:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message
lol, I edited as you posted.

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Lara
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posted March 29, 2009 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
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posted March 29, 2009 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for emma_duncan     Edit/Delete Message
i saw that lol

no leo, sagitaius and libra are vvvvv relationship oriented, wheras pisces, taurus, and capricon are not emotionally dependent on relations

so are your personal planets all eastern too?

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posted March 29, 2009 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
i do like snohawk's theory tho!!lol...

emma i have never really noticed it to play out that way, though i must admit that i have never heard of it being calculated by the signs, only the houses. most of my planets are on the right (western) side of my chart and i have been accused over and again of being too single-minded, self-determined, etc. my MOON and jupiter and NN are in the eastern half. and jupiter is in 12th retrograde!

in fact this one thing is so OFF that if i hadn't heard the story of that "longest day" in my mother's life a million times i would suspect the recording nurse of writing "p" where it should have said "a"..!

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posted March 29, 2009 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for emma_duncan     Edit/Delete Message
hmmmm...interesting....LARA

if we look at signs and personal planets (sun, moon, mercury, benus and mars) i have all as follows (WH, WH, WH, WH, and EH) so i am WHP and i definetly feel it.

i think my moon conjuct uranus saves me from this a little bit as it gives me capacity to be independent when its inevitable

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posted March 29, 2009 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for emma_duncan     Edit/Delete Message
and from all of your responses , i feel more reason to explore signs instead of houses. specially those who are saying they have western houses but dont feel they are relationship oriented, i am suspecting their majority of personal planets are in signs ranging from capricon ti gemini.

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posted March 29, 2009 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
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posted March 29, 2009 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for emma_duncan     Edit/Delete Message
so Lara

you said
sun taurus WH
moon aries WH
mercury taurus WH
venus aries WH
mars taurus (east of MC but in 4th h so WH or EH?)

so i think you are fairly EHP as all your signs are eastern. in a way you get balance as all signs are predominantly eastern but are in west houses.

but according to amy keehn u will be vvv eastern, self sufficient, entrepreneurial type of person

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posted March 29, 2009 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for emma_duncan     Edit/Delete Message
no eastern

capricon, acquarius, pisces,aries taurus, gemini all six are eastern folks

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posted March 29, 2009 09:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message
well, I have aqua sun, taurus AC, sag moon, and cap merc. The rest are all not from capricorn to gemini.

So, only three planets are eastern...

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posted March 29, 2009 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for emma_duncan     Edit/Delete Message
well....

thats what i am trying to see.....amy keehn talks about signs only

let me quote some excerpt from her book

so just as an example, according to her extreme hemisphere imbalances sign wise may results as follows in MEN:

"when majority of planets are in WH can make one insecure and lacking in confidence..such person may be overly concrend about others opinion of him/her, and need othrs approval....such people can easily be taken advantage of by friends...they pay excessive attention to their loved ones and need constant show of love..they will break up from a meeting to just give you a call that they will be late, fearing that you wll be worried....they expend so much energy on loved ones that they have no time for theorselves"

Now a man with EH imbalance

"they are preoccupied wth their own needs and may not mind if their partner does not pay them constant attention. ..they have obssessive levels of independence...they will rarely turn to others for helo not even family and friends. they dont want to feel obligated to anyone cause they think help has strings attached and thet dont want to compromise their independence. they think people who are oferring help are invading their personal space and freedom. they are not comfortable with needing others and don't long to be needed. ....it can be difficlut to acheive genuine emotional intimacy with a man who is extereme EH"


"wh man will apologize even if he steps on cat, EH man will not even aploogize ig he steps on you"


she has a whole chapter on it and looks at various other factors...and she also talks abt gender...she says...men with EH imB are more problem than women with EH imBalance. as women by nature are relationship oriented so it kin a compensates.

similarly a women with WH imbalance is more difficlu than a man...as men by nature have eastern tendencies to compensate the imbalance

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posted March 29, 2009 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for emma_duncan     Edit/Delete Message
so lady neptune...u are eastern...and plus its good we dont need imbalance...

now i am feeling more confident that it is actually signs and not houses....amy keehn might be right

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posted March 29, 2009 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls     Edit/Delete Message
To answer your question, I do think I am more people oriented and not a self starter. I have a deep need for at least one intimate partnership, but that may because of my Libra Moon.

If we factor in the signs:
Sun: Aqua (eastern sign)/WH
Moon: Libra (western sign)/WH
Merc: Aqua (eastern sign)/WH
Venus: Pisces (eastern sign)/EH
Mars: Sagittarius (western)/WH
Jupiter: Aries (eastern)/EH
Saturn: Sagittarius (western)/WH
Uranus: Sag (western)/WH
Neptune: Cap (eastern)/WH
Pluto: Scorpio (western)/WH
Chiron: Gemini (eastern)/EH

13/22 = 59% Western

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