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OzMeg222
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posted March 31, 2009 12:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Met a great guy, had been talking for months before we actually met which is weird for me. Usually I jump in first then let the feelings come from that afterwards lol. For the 2nd time in my life tho, I think I could marry this person if things keep progressing as they have been. Never felt so comfortable with anyone before, the one time I was in love with someone it hurt at the same time but this doesn't fee like hurt and I'm liking it a lot

Here are our synastry aspects of planets sun thru mars- as well as Part of fortune, vertex, angles and asteroids valentine, karma, psyche, eros, juno, chiron and amor. I'm keeping the orbs within 3 degs too

Mine to his:
sun sextile n.node (1deg)
sun trine vertex (2deg)
sun sextile eros (1deg)
moon square moon (1deg)
moon conjunct DC (3deg)
mercury square juno (exact)
mercury trine valentine (1deg)
venus opposed venus (exact)
venus trine MC (exact)
mars sextile moon (exact)
mars sextile mercury (1deg)
N.node conjunct sun (1deg)
N.node conjunct PoF (3deg)
N.node square vertex (exact)
N.node sqaure eros (1deg)
N.node sqaure karma (2deg)
chiron conjunct chiron (2deg)
chiron trine eros (2deg)
PoF sextile PoF (1deg)
Vertex sextile juno (exact)
Juno opposed mars (exact)
Juno square n.node (2deg)
Juno sextile amor (1deg)
Eros opposed mercury (exact)
Eros square valentine (3deg)
Valentine trine n.node (1deg)
Valentine trine AC (1deg)
Psyche opposed moon (exact)
Psyche conjunct amor (3deg)
Amor square juno (1deg)
Amor trine valentine (exact)
Karma sextile chiron (exact)
Karma trine vertex (exact)
Karma sextile eros (exact)
AC square venus (3deg)
AC trine n.node (exact)
AC trine psyche (2deg)
MC opposed PoF (1deg)
MC square eros (2deg)


I can't remember which aspects fit IQHunk's rules so if anyone can help I'd greatly appreciate it!!!

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Lara
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posted March 31, 2009 08:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
any saturn aspects Oz

so happy for you!!

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darkdreamer
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posted March 31, 2009 09:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Oz,

these are the most significant ones:
I will put those in brackets, that I personally deem as significant, but which are outside IQ`s rules.


[venus opposed venus (exact)]

N.node conjunct sun (1deg)

[Juno opposed mars (exact)]

Valentine trine n.node (1deg)
Valentine trine AC (1deg)

[Psyche opposed moon (exact)]
[Psyche conjunct amor (3deg)]

Amor trine valentine (exact)

AC trine n.node (exact)
AC trine psyche (2deg)


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Lara
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posted March 31, 2009 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
DD, may i ask please if you think venus/NN are as important a valentine/NN aspects?

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OzMeg222
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posted March 31, 2009 09:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Thanks so much guys!!!

Yeah there are saturn aspects, these are them.

Mine to his:
square moon (4deg)
conjunct saturn (exact)- he's 4mths older
square juno (1deg)
sextile valentine (exact)

His to mine:
conjunct moon (3deg)
opposed mercury (2deg)
sextile jupiter (exact)
opposed amor (1deg)
square psyche (3deg)

Again, these orbs are under 3deg

Oh, my fav thing about synastry is my moon on his DC (sigh) so nice...

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darkdreamer
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posted March 31, 2009 11:14 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Lara,

according to IQ, the Valentine / NN aspects would be better.

Valentine represents sacrificial, unconditional love.


Venus of course is good, too, but it has a more physical orientation. Maybe the difference would be that Venus rules attraction more than love itself?

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Lara
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posted March 31, 2009 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
I don't know... the people l have valentine/NN with i'm more attracted to but not sure if it's LOVE.

The people l have venus/NN with it's more LOVE than attraction. It's a deep love.

So i don't know. I am trying to figure it all out myself

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darkdreamer
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posted March 31, 2009 11:33 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Well, Lara, I`m not sure myself. It`s what IQ said; personally I am not yet completely sure about Valentine.

Maybe the house plays a role? In what house do these Valentine / NN-conjunctions happen, and in what house the Venus/NN ones?
Also what house does Venus rule?
If it`s not the 1st, 5th, 8th (or even 7th) it might not relate to attraction so much.


If you use equal houses, Venus would rule your 4th and 9th house, right?
Well, the 4th house would definitely carry more of that intimacy / closeness-vibe than an erotic attraction-vibe.

In my case Venus rules the 5th house, and I definitely feel her as attraction-planet.

You would be surprised, Mars feels very intimate to me. BUT Mars rules my 4th house and is very close to Amor, so it makes sense I guess. It´s also in a waterhouse (12th house) - so more emotions.

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Mama Mia
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posted March 31, 2009 11:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message
"The people l have venus/NN with it's more LOVE than attraction. It's a deep love."

Venus/NN conjunction=Soul mates..

I believe this to be true as well, I have this with my guy and that along with Venus/Saturn conjunction is like super glue..

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posted March 31, 2009 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
Venus/NN conjunction=Soul mates..


If that's the case, I should still be with my ex....jah.

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Mama Mia
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posted March 31, 2009 11:52 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Well keep in mind I said that along with Venus/Saturn conjunction is super glue..And well you do know that all soulmates don't stay together, they all serve different purposes..Some for lessons some for love and lessons..You know how this goes..

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posted March 31, 2009 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls     Edit/Delete Message
If you have his birthtime, you should do a composite chart (look at both Davison and Midpoint) because I find that these are more telling about the relationship than just synastry.

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Dulce Luna
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posted March 31, 2009 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
Well keep in mind I said that along with Venus/Saturn conjunction is super glue..And well you do know that all soulmates don't stay together, they all serve different purposes..Some for lessons some for love and lessons..You know how this goes..


Fair enough! We did have saturn glue but at this point in life it ain't meant to be; I'm just not sure it will ever happen again. Meh, I guess with venus retro the subject of soulmates is making me prickly..LOL.

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darkdreamer
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posted March 31, 2009 12:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I don`t think you can see soulmates in just one aspect alone.

But I agree, Venus / NN of course is a very significant placement and it has much to do with the purpose / destiny of a person (as the NN is involved).

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Mama Mia
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posted March 31, 2009 12:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message
"I don`t think you can see soulmates in just one aspect alone."

I agree thats why I mentioned the Venus/Saturn connection..but even with that there is other aspects that would have to take place..Dulce, were there any other placements that were strong..For me along with those other two were a couple strong one Sun cojunct moon, Venus conjunct moon, Sun conjunct Venus..As well as some other lower planet connections..And all that set aside you just kind of know..When you meet a soulmate the connection is like no other..Not always a garuntee that its gonna be eternal, but you always know the difference with a soulmate..

OZMeg, honey don't mean to hijack your thread, but I just wanted to say good for you bc you were so stuck on that Pisces guy for awhile it almost seemed hopeless for you back then..I am glad you have met someone else that rocks your boat..:-)

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darkdreamer
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posted March 31, 2009 12:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Yes, you feel it, if you have met a soulmate (he probably will refuse to leave your mind again. lol).


Astrologically speaking I think that it is necessary to have strong synastry bewteen the personal planets and angles, coupled with the so called "karmic" planets.

Personally I always look out for Moon, IC and the Nodes (lunar symbolism has a lot to do with the "soul"), coupled with the more romantic planets like Venus for example (if we are talking about romantic soulmates). Also ASC, as this is the point where "heaven and earth meet", the beginning of your existence, from the spiritual (12th house) to the physical (1st house). At least I think it could be like this.


But if you need to turn to astrology to tell you that you have met a soulmate, then he probably isn`t. You just know, and the astrology will resonate with that feeling, not the other way round.

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Lara
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posted March 31, 2009 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
ok i'm starting a VALENTINE/VENUS/NN thread lol

Sorry OZmeg.. i'm so happy for you though. I really hope and pray this man is the ONE!!!
You have not had an easy time of it X

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darkdreamer
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posted March 31, 2009 01:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Yes, Oz, sorry I got carried away a little h ere.

But I really hope that this one will make you happy.

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Glaucus
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posted March 31, 2009 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
I'd definitely count the aspects to the Midheaven. Those are underestimated in synastry.

Cosmobiologists and Uranian Astrologers view Midheaven as the soul,the
"I", the individual as well as the moment and minute.

To them, it's the most personal and significant point in a person's chart.
It also seems that they incorporate the meanings of the Imum Coeli into the Midheaven. They just see the whole Midheaven-Imum Coeli axis as the Midheaven.
They incorporate the meanings of the Descendant into the Ascendant. They see the whole Ascendant/Descendant axis as having to do with environment and relationships.
They see the north lunar and south lunar nodes as having to do with meetings,connections,associations. They view that whole as axis as just the node.

They don't differentiate the aspects, and so they refer to them as = Therefore, they don't care if it's conjunct the Imum Coeli or conjunct the Midheaven. They don't care if its conjunct the Ascendant or conjunct the Descendant. They don't care if it's conjunct the Midheaven or conjunct the Imum Coeli. They don't differentiate those conjunctions.

They also see the midpoints involving those points as significant.
Venus = Midheaven/Node midpoint is viewed as a soul love connection.


It really depends on the system of astrology that you use.


I do believe that the aspects to the Midheaven are very underrated in Astrology because astrologers tend to view Midheaven as just the career,social status.


if anything, the Uranian Astrologers view the Aries Point which is 00'00 Aries is viewed as like the Midheaven in regards to what they will be known in the world for.
Noel Tyl uses the Aries Point too,and he's not a cosmobiologist nor uranian astrologer. He does use midpoints extensively like them.


for example

my Aries Point
oppose Pluto - known in the world for intensity,transformation
oppose Uranus/Ascendant midpoint - known in the world for unconventional relating with others
square Sun/Mars midpoint - known in the world for physical activity


Raymond


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darkdreamer
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posted March 31, 2009 01:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message
WEll, I should have differentiated it, but of course I was thinking of the whole axis, IC-MC. As I am also thinking of the axis ASC-DSC.

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posted March 31, 2009 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
DD,

It's all good

I was just pointing how mainstream astrologers and cosmobiologists,uranian astrologers differ in their views about the abstract points..especially the Midheaven and Node.

Raymond

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OzMeg222
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posted March 31, 2009 05:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Well I was interesting cos I was dating someone for a while last year who kinda helped me get over the pisces, we were actually together when the pisces got married.
Finally the wool came out from over my eyes and I saw the pisces for what he really is- a selfish, spoilt, silly little boy who has a tantrum when he doesn't get what he wants and its all about him (venus/mars in aries) but he then has the audacity to play the 'poor me' (sun/asc pisces).

But I loved him, love is a strange thing!

Anyways, I dated that guy then got rid of him cos some of his behaviour wasn't too good. Since all the drama with the pisces I don't take crap from anyone- I even stopped talking to a friend who wasn't treating me right and hadn't for a long time.

You may have noticed I haven't been around here much, I wait until late in the game to look at the synastry, composites, whatever these days.
This guy 'floats my boat' in a way nobody has since the pisces and he comes with an added must-have bonus....

He's possibly the most honest and honorable person I've ever met. His personal morals are unquestionable, and he is so open minded about almost everything- another welcome change!

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Lara
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posted March 31, 2009 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
YAY!

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OzMeg222
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posted March 31, 2009 05:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message
P.S. I should add that I've been very happy being single for a long time, I learnt to focus on myself which is important.
I don't think another person can make u happy, u need to be whole and complete as a person before u can join your life with someone elses.

Its funny cos I wasn't actually looking for someone when we met, I'd been knocking men back actually LMAO its funny how being 'unavailable' is like a magnet to some blokes.

Also, my carry on during the pisces debacle WAS NOT NORMAL, obsession isn't healthy no matter what the details. Mine was part of a much bigger problem that had been building up for years and came to a head around the time. I focused on my heartbreak to avoid dealing with the deaths of 3 important people in my life, issues with one of my kids and childhood trauma issues (extra info came to light) that came back up and knocked me for 6.
In reality I probably could have had a relationship with the pisces for a while but I didn't let him know what I was feeling, I ignored him to his face a lot of the time and led him to believe I was just using him for sex. No wonder he found someone else, but when he realised I HAD liked him he wouldn't let me go. I had to cut the cord there and repeatedly tell him so. He's lucky I didn't tell his partner!!!

So if anyone seems to be focusing on relationships that hurt, relationships that can never be, please please take a look at OTHER things u may be avoiding in your life.

You may notice here I didn't get into too much detail with the synastry- personal planets, angles and a few asteroids only, with 3deg orbs. I didn't list every aspect or get into every other style of chart (draconics, harmonics, etc) because I don't feel like we NEED it. I think if it doesn't show up right away it won't, the rest of those things are like gravy- something gooooood added to whats already there

The composite I had read over at astro.com by Todd Neimann who has been spot on when it comes to reading composites for me. So I didn't post it here (way too much mucking around too cos I can't just post it directly lmao!)
Composite is good and it really reflects the qualities in our relationship. I was actually looking for some warning signs when I asked for it to be read but turns out theres nothing really bad lol.

Life is goooood

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Lara
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posted March 31, 2009 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
GOOD CALL OzMeg!

Yeah Todd is amazingly accurate with those composites!

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