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Lara
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Lara
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darkdreamer
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Nope, not now. I`m having a date with a Col., well when I can find that STargate, that is. LOL Of course only my daily dose of TV.

BTW I am sharing neither Valentine / NN nor Venus / NN with him (I am sharing this Venus-NN-conjunction with JL though. lol).
In this case it must be my NN on his DSC (or his Venus on my Moon? Certainly not my Pluto on his Mars and SN!) that lures me into avid TV-watching.

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Dulce Luna
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posted March 31, 2009 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message
Well I'm gonna put this here so I don't take over OzMeg's thread....


Around the first times I was meeting him it was scary weird that he was actually on my wavelength. I'm not sure it had anything to do with the Venus/NN aspect, but there's always been a connection. He had jupiter opposing my venus and sitting his SN too, so I did feel indulged which was rare since my venus has rarely ever been spoiled in life.

We also had a water grand trine in our favor (and an earth one too) accounting for the weird connection.

I guess the way I describe what happened is that the attraction was very pure at first, but then things became heavier and almost compulsive as we kept making the 'wrong moves' and kind of hurting eachother....I think that's where the T-square involving my saturn, his moon and mars came in.

To be honest, I know it was love,I know it was important for growth and most likely a soulmate connection, but I don't care to revisit the whole thing. I've met 3 people since then and I have a much less dysfunctional bond with one of those people than I did with him.

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Dulce Luna
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posted March 31, 2009 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message
There's a theory that the NN is not easy and it did seem like he wanted to revert back to Sagittarian SN ways sometimes...especially with his own Jupiter sitting on his own SN.

And I don't have a date of birth for the person I speak of because last year I wasn't in an astrology-caring mode and I didn't want to be obsessing over aspects and picking him apart. I would rather just let the chart resonate with what has already happened.

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posted March 31, 2009 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
With the guy who rejected me without ever even touching me, with whom I felt a deep soulmate-y connection and lust/deep affection, we had:
-My NN conjunct his Venus (1 degree)
-His Valentine trine my Moon (exact) and opposing my Mars (exact)
-My Valentine conjunct his Pluto (exact)

He had no reciprocal feelings for me, although I thought he did (Neptune problems, maybe?)

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posted March 31, 2009 02:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message
So, the world`s been saved; I am back.


BTW synastry only highlights potential; but it needs "triggers" to get active.


Lucia,

what was going on between the progressed charts of you, too?
Could it be that your Venus, ruler of 5th, 7th or 8th house, or Eros have been strongly triggered, while his weren`t?


I also think I remember a thread where it said, that with the Venus-NN-conjunction, the NN-owner probably would feel it more, while Venus still could walk away.
Maybe this is so, because for the NN-person their whole path / purpose / destiny is touched?


But of course I don`t know. Unrequited feelings fascinate me (well, the astrology of them, the real feelings are a ve3ry painful experience imo), but in most cases I have seen that one person`s softer planets like Moon or Venus (or even Eros) were highly triggered along with the ruler of 5th, 7th and 8th house, while the other person had a much weaker involvement of these planets / points. Especially the houserulers are sometimes interesting.


Also, I know I am repeating myself, but look at progressions and transits.
Let`s say oyu have an exact Venus-NN-conjunction plus Venus/Mars plus Sun/Moon - it will most of the time lie dormant, until a planet comes and wakes it up (through progression or maybe even transits).


Also, do not forget, every person reacts differently to synastric aspects, depending on their natals.

Personally I knew a boy in highschool I was highly interested in. The whole "butterflies in stomach" scenario.
My Uranus was conjunct his Moon.
I LOVED that excitement, that unpredictability (to a certain degree). He drove me crazy and I was like: "more, more of that uncertainty". lol
I think he didn`t feel that way. It was a strange connection. He certainly didn`t like my Uranian vibe. lol

I think the same conjunction triggered very different reactions inside us. Why?
One of the reason is that I have Moon in Aquarius - so Moon-uranus in synastry is no problem for me. I know that, I AM like that, I need that excitement and new experiences and unusual events (Hmm, maybe one reason I love STargate so much? And the main actor is Aquarius, well I guess that fits. lol).
However, that boy from school had Moon in Scorpio and no strong Uranian aspects. He certainly didn`t like my unpredictability. lol

Another example:
I met someone some time ago and the synastry was AWESOME. Sun-Moon-conjunction, Venus-Mars-trine, aspects bewteen ruler of ASC and DSC and many many more.

But we didn`t have any Venus-Pluto or Mars-Pluto aspects.

I`m not saying those are necessary for everyone, but it`s safe to say they are necessary for ME.
It`s simple as that: No Pluto aspecting Venus or Mars - no attraction. AFfinity, sympathy, affection, yes, mucho, but no real attraction on my part.

Why is that so?
Well, I think in my case it has to do with my Venus-Pluto square and the fact that Venus rules my 5th house of what is attractive to me.

It also means, that I am passionately drawn to people, who have that Venus-Pluto or Mars-Pluto-theme in their natals.


Relationships are complex, and so is synastry.

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Lara
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posted March 31, 2009 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
Lara, what happened?

Darkdreamer, I am fascinated by unrequited astrology too. I REALLY like and agree with your comments on the whole issue--especially how the natal affects what we LIKE and LOOK FOR in synastry.


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