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Astra
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posted April 01, 2009 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message
I've become even more cynical lately. I just realized that cheaters prosper. The worse you treat people in life and the more dishonest you are, then the more good luck you attract. I've been living my life as a complete chump--working hard, being honest, helping others when it's rarely in my best interest, being a good daughter and sister, etc. But where has it gotten me? No job, no future and a useless education. My life is falling to pieces and this has been happening for as long as I can remember. My best friend died, a family friend who was like a second mother to me died and I just lost my job all in one weekend.

I'm gradually starting to embrace the dark side of my capricorn moon; after all of the endless crap that's happened, I feel like my soul is slipping away. I can't take it anymore. I know people say that when life knocks you down, then you're supposed to stand up. But what do you do when life is still pummeling you when you're on the ground?

Meanwhile, I see people around me completely happy and I mean, genuinely happy. I can usually tell when people are faking emotions and these people are not faking it. They cheat, lie, refuse to work hard, are selfish and yet everything is just handed to them on a silver platter.

My compassionate nature is dissolving to the point where I almost have zero feeling. But maybe feeling nothing is better. I don't know. My guess is that it's better than be caught in a perpetual hell.

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blue moon
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posted April 01, 2009 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
What about self-respect?

Whatever everyone else is and what they do, I wouldn't want to be without mine.

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amowls
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posted April 01, 2009 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls     Edit/Delete Message
When life gets hard, I always remember that things will get better. Life is about ups and downs and people who have never experienced downs never experience happiness because what is happy without sad? My friend Cody pointed this out to me the other day. People who are "happy" all their lives probably don't truly feel that way because how can you compare happiness with nothing? I've had an easy life so far and the other day I sort of had a crisis because I couldn't decide whether I was actually happy or not. I'm sort of bored, that's for sure.

Also if you cheat in life you never learn anything, just like cheating on a test.

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Astra
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posted April 01, 2009 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message
It's been a decade--life still hasn't gotten better. It just becomes progressively worse. The only thing I've learned about life is that it sucks. The cheaters seem to have found a way to bypass the pain. I didn't think it was possible before, but I stand corrected.

They must be doing something right because they're the ones with solid jobs, wealth, success and personal happiness.

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sunshine_lion
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posted April 01, 2009 02:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message
you may not always see it, but you can rest assured what you put out you will get back. be it good or bad. sometimes it takes years. hang in there and keep diong the right thing. it just takes time. i used to think the same thing for many years, until i just now see things turning. and the worm does turn. you will see in the long run.

i know how you feel though, it does seem that way sometimes. trust what you know is right and pray about it.

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posted April 01, 2009 02:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message
those you look at now, and think, ha, how do they get it so easy when they cheat and lie and such....poof.... no substance. one day you will pity them.
you will see in time.

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sevannah
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posted April 01, 2009 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sevannah     Edit/Delete Message
In my experience it's the laws of attraction. These people believe that they deserve this and that and that they are entitled to it. They are on that vibration, so that is what they attract. When your vbration is set to the things you don't want that is what you attract to yourself. I found this out this year. I started to change the way I thought, I'm not saying that it's easy, it takes time and faith. But I will tell you this, my life is constantly improving, I'm much happier! I still have days where I throw myself a pity party. lol But then I try really hard to find that emotion that I enjoy and know I vibrate well with. Sometimes it can take a day or so, but I do find it. Things before seemed to only get worse, I was anxious, depressed, etc..... i was attracting like minded people and situations. I read The Secret a while ago, but it's the Abrahan-Hicks that really helped me move along. That and some of my own things I threw in. It really has helped me. I don't sweat the small stuff anymore! In fact by shifting my focus on what I want, instead of what I don't want or like, my life has been a lot more productive and happy.

I don't know if this helps or not, but either way I hope that you find what you're looking for

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It's just another day in the life of Aquarius.

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Atlenta
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posted April 01, 2009 02:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Oh I know what you mean. I have this manipulative, betraying friend who attracts people like magnets just because she strategises and plays upon their weaknesses etc. I am still waiting for karma to bite her in the ass because geez, I'm here to see it through!

I don't believe in being too nice anymore. Yet it is possible to cruise through life still being a goodie. The thing that I see childhood different from adulthood is that when you give too much, people think you're kissing ass. There's a fine art of balancing giving and taking, not too much too soon. I've known myself to jump straight into trusting a new person who turned out not friend material in the end. Perhaps its the timing of first impressions that really count.

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evander
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posted April 01, 2009 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for evander     Edit/Delete Message
hi fellow capricornian moon.

there was a time in my life when i felt the same. it took a lot of pain to admit that life is painful and that mature behavior wouldn't always be returned with good outcome.

i've been to the dark side... it's overrated too.

i try to accept that life's not fair and have as much fun as i can. i've let go of mature behaviour... trying to seize the moment as much as i can, trying to enjoy anything i can get.

just try to get over the bitterness of it and let loose

pluto transiting your moon yet?

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triplecancer
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posted April 01, 2009 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for triplecancer     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Astra,
I'm sorry life hasn´t been easy for you. Don't focus so much on what others have, especially if they are not good people. I also sometimes think that good people suffer and bad people are happy. But actually, I don't think that someone who needs to lie, cheat, manipulate to be happy is actually happy. I think they are probably sad pathetic people. Do you really want to be that way? You could if you wanted to, but you're not because you choose not to be that way.
Life is unfair, it always has been. Some people have an easier time, others have it hard. Why? I don't know, that's just how it is.
I do understand how you feel because I have been there.
I hope things get better, and yes sometimes it takes 10 years or more.

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MyVirgoMask
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posted April 01, 2009 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Sorry to hear things are not well, Astra.

It seems like you're grappling with a lot definitely.

If someone does not have much of a conscience their life may look easier, but I doubt it's as rich and varied and fulfilling, or has any kind of depth.
Having a conscience is no easy thing, and it's hard. But I do think the rewards are none that can be taken away from you, because they're in your heart all the time. I hope I don't sound too cliche.
I think the above posters have all made good points too. And the Pluto on the moon (has it hit yet?) will probably have this effect.

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IWDWSWLM
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posted April 01, 2009 11:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message
A practical and psychology-based book I would highly recommend is "Emotional Vampires" by Albert J. Bernstein, PHd.

It sounds like to a certain extent, a number of your problems stem both from your outer circumstances AND from your interactions with people. The book will be beneficial in handling the "people" aspect of it by guiding you to be better able to spot users who only exist to drain you for all you are worth.

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Astra
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posted April 01, 2009 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message
sunshine lion,

Thanks for your comments. I'll try to hang in there, but it's getting hard.

Sevannah,

See, the problem isn't that I don't think I deserve better. I think I deserve a lot better than what I'm getting now. Despite this, I just attract chaos, misery and one tragedy after another. I am glad to hear that your life is improving though. At least there's someone decent out there who is being treated fairly (at least occasionally) by life.

Atlenta,

I'm sorry about your manipulative friend. I know what you mean. I do help people a lot if they prove to be trustworthy. I know how it feels to be stuck in a horrible situation with no one to turn to or to simply be confused at how to proceed, so I do help them when I can.

Normally, some people foolishly mistaken me for being very nice and try to take advantage of me. When this happens, I immediately tear them to pieces leaving them to wonder what the hell happened. Sure they end up scared and regretful, but they finally learn not to cross the line.

Evander,

Life is certainly painful and it sucks. I wish I could let loose, but I have family depending on me. I have no choice, but to be as responsible and mature as I can because I don't just have myself to worry about. This is what hurts the most: life is dragging me down and my family as well. I do get what you're saying though. I'll try to find some way to incorporate fun into my life.

No, pluto isn't transiting my moon yet, but I have moon square pluto natally, which does suck. Right now, pluto is transiting my 12th house, conjuncting my neptune and sextiling my pluto.

triplecancer,

Yeah, it's hard seeing these rotten people have everything they want. It's like they just wish for a new car and it appears in front of them. Meanwhile, I've had to save my money since I was 5 in order to be able to buy my first car at age 22.

MyVirgoMask,

No, you don't sound cliche at all. I just hope things turn around soon because my heart is almost frozen at this point. I've got pluto squaring my moon natally, so I feel its affect all the time. It's too intense to put into words accurately.


Thank you to everyone for your kind words!

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Iqhunk
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posted April 02, 2009 06:14 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Thats a good book recommended by IWD.

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Diandra23
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posted April 02, 2009 08:03 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Astra

i was also thinking of the Law of Atraction when i saw your words.

i can assure you it is not easy...but once you start seeing the results,it will start to be a natural process for you.

you already think life is unfair and it is no worth - see? the minute you think this deeper and deeper,Life will present you that!

you feel worse and worse as days passes by dont you?why do you think depressed people have more probability to die,than others?Cause they are in a low mind state,they strat to create unhealthy cells and everything can fall apart.

if you can,please read converstaions with God and the secret.

thos books are improving my life in a way i could nto imagine.im becoming a better person and people who dont bring me sincere and happy feelings,they are throwed in distance from me,by circunstances.

why do cheaters prosper?they only have one thing in mind:be prosperous.be rich.they atract people and situations that eventually brings that to them.the LOA doesnt think if they are "good" or "bad" persons.

the LOA responds by vibracional energies.

As you start being grateful for what you already have; keep thinking of what you want and not what dont want anymore;and feel the feelings of having your dreams fullfiled....

your Lfie will start to improve.

dONT give up.


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praecipua
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posted April 02, 2009 08:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message
law of attraction here, law of attraction there.

astra, dont feel guilty about your feelings. sometimes life hurts and i dont think that by pulling THE LAW OF ATTRACTION out of the hat things will go better.

good luck and much love

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katatonic
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posted April 02, 2009 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
no i don't think cheaters prosper - beyond a certain point. it may look that way to you, but what goes around does come around...first and foremost, cheaters believe "that's the way the world is" and therefore seldom really are able to trust ANYONE, what a lonely life. after awhile it drags on you. just like dorian gray, there is always a price paid.

there must be something great in your life right now and some way you can "bottle" the feeling of being happy. this goes a long way to creating more happiness around you. whether you call it LOA or not, attitude does shape your life. it may not bring you everything nice, but it helps you see the good things and deal with the nasty ones.

and nothing ever really goes on forever! the wheel of fortune spins for us all...

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comica23
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posted April 02, 2009 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
Although it's possible that we might have more than just one life, it's also possible that we don't, and rather live my current life as the only life. ^_^;

So past/future lives karma aside, reality is just like this - has its ugly and beautiful sides, and while some has better lives, others has worse luck. No matter how we can't accept it, things are how they are. But we can choose what to do, and that's important. We might choose to live like those cheaters we despise, but can we really accept to live it that way? Well, everything we choose and do has its consequences, so if we can accept these and that's the way we are happy..

Things might get better in the future, or it might not at all. But even so, no one knows how it will be, yet we still have the power to choose what to do. ^_^

But well, maybe things are not as bad as they seem. Things might actually be possible to improve, yet since you've been through a hard situation for a long time, and your natal Moon square Pluto doesn't help, it might make you feel at your limit and think that the situation itself worse than it is.
Anyways.. I have to agree with others, that thinking positively might actually make things better. Coz if you start to feel positively, it affects your actions, and your actions can affect the things around you. It might sound naive to say this, but it's not. ^_~

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posted April 02, 2009 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
Astra - I think we all feel like that to some extent and it sounds that we are pretty similar in our feelings. I can think of some cheaters that have gotten jobs that I was supposed to get a few years back and I admittedly still feel bitter about it after so many hard years of work and self-development. I feel at times that life has not recompensed me for this. Maybe that is how you feel.

However, the grass is always greener on the other side. It is very easy to think that other people are doing better than you and that they are happy. It is actually very easy to put up a smiley facade and trick people, by conduct or verbally, into thinking that your life is rosey. Every life has it's problems, including that of a cheater. Maybe it's done to psyche others out even, this appearance. I've often had the converse problem where people think that I have an amazing life and that I'm happy but I guess it's my facade and privacy that does not let them in. I think of a friend (who deservedly got a job) who has the same job as the cheaters and she has told me that she has sufferred a lot in the position - heavy and unrelenting work, dysfunctional office environment etc. She mustn't be the only one! ...And I don't have to go through any of this pain!

I think the only advice I can give you is to focus on yourself. Don't worry about what they are doing but think about what you want to do. Being certain in what you want to do and keep on aiming for it. When you do, it focusses your life and blocks out extra junk. Maybe this is one of the reasons that cheaters are so successful, because they don't think of others but only themselves.

BTW I don't believe in reincarnation and some members have alluded to "punishment" coming back in their next life. I believe in what goes around comes around and a lot of them just might be in pain now and don't show it or don't know that they are in trouble already.

I hope my words can be of some help.

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Astra, I know exactly how you feel. This sort of thing has been mindf**king me for the past two months while I've been caught up with the worst situations. I too, work hard and selflessly and "bail" people out of THEIR misery, wait hand and foot on my loved ones, and then come the many deaths that have occured and ripped my friends and family at the seams.

Perhaps we are the only honest ones left. Sometimes I see it that way. Maybe those lying, lazy, and poor excuses for human beings that somehow get ahead will suffer in their own hell in the afterlife. Karma will surely bite them, at one point or another.

Stay stong for now. Look at those qualities as your strength, not your weakness. It is what I have to do to keep myself sane. *hug*

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Geocosmic Valentine
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posted April 02, 2009 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message
I've had times in my life when I felt the same thing and it's only been recently where I said to myself, "I have been the recipient of compassion from others. How can I possibly cheat on that? Any kind of understanding that I've received, gentle caring or a listening ear is worth so much more than money because it allowed me to continue on doing good for others.

If you think things are bad now, remember that they can always get worse.

Remember the kindness of your loved ones who have just passed on. Did you ever receive any love or kindness from them? If you did you will be turning your back on their love which lives on after physical death. That's the greatest thing about love, that doesn't die.

I'd also like to give you a small gift for the kindnesses you have already given to anyone or anything in this world.

Here:

And also, this has been raising my spirits at a difficult time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZJxL3PrrLM

Or the original version by Kermit The Frog himself:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIOiwg2iHio

And last, you might need to move through your bad thoughts first before they brighten so take your time. You don't have to pretend to be happy. Just take your time, and I'm so sorry to hear about your losses. Treat yourself as gently as possible.

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posted April 02, 2009 11:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Maybe your karmic lesson is to enjoy hard work and not take short cuts?

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Astra. Sometimes it seems that the goodies usually go to the cheaters and maybe it's true. But I strongly believe that when we pass over to the Other Side we get segregated into separate planes depending on our goodness or level of enlightenment...which is partly why I keep doing the right thing. I try to ignore those who have more even if I know they've been borderline evil. I will say, though, that I believe Capricorn influenced people have a bit of a tougher time in life...based only on my personal observations ... and I am sure there's a cosmic reason for that which we will only fully understand when we are given the knowledge on the Other Side... hang in there... and ...just my 2 cents... a reading with a talented and legit medium might do you good and ease your grief with regard to the people you've lost.

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cristiname
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posted April 04, 2009 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cristiname     Edit/Delete Message
Astra, I know exactly how you feel. It should be transiting Pluto over your Neptune, in your 12th. it destroys your faith in the power of good vs evil.

from my personal experience with Pluto transits, and a helping hand from a great article online, I can tell you that the point to all this is for you to stand up to such people, and willingly decide to let them go out of your life - and not become one of them. also, you need to make up your mind about what you consider right and wrong, where you draw the line and consider things unacceptable.

Sadly, in the face of such temptations from the dark side, you gotta decide witch side you wanna be on. who you want to be.

My decisions at that time seemed to come out of weakness. and yet, 5 years later, I’m so proud of myself. I know, the people from that time are very well off, status, career, money. But they’re not happy. they’re lost. and very lonely in their distrustful little worlds they’ve created for themselves.

I’m a Capricorn and I know this much: if you wait long enough, you win

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posted April 06, 2009 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CarbonUnit     Edit/Delete Message
I can understand where you are coming from but you have to realize that many of these cheaters are complete fakes. They can not be in touch with their feelings to do what they do. It's all about the surface and inside they are hollow. According to the laws of attraction these types attract others to them that are cheaters. And everyone is using each other. It's very souless.

Forget about them and work on yourself! Be grateful for what you do have!! Work on being more spiritual and positive. Material things are fleeting but the soul is eternal.

Let go, forgive and learn how to love yourself. You won't give them a second thought.

If you ever cheating at a game when you were a kid, what it more fun than winning honestly? Probably not. Or if you ever cheated on a test in school (and you didn't get caught) did you learn anything of substance from the curriculum? Did you ever sneak and carefully open presents before Christmas and try to rewrap them? On Christmas day was it as exciting to open these gifts?

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