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Ann7
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posted April 09, 2009 09:34 PM
Her Venus is conjunct his Mars.
His Venus is square her Mars.Despite this being a double whammy would she be feeling more of the sexual pull or would they both feel it? I know that venus conjunct mars, venus feels the attraction and that in venus square mars, mars feels the attraction (or so I've read). I would love to hear what everyone thinks.  IP: Logged |
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posted April 09, 2009 09:48 PM
Depends on the signs of the planets and the orb of the aspects. Depends on whether there are other planets involved in these aspects. Depends on what houses the planets fall in. The conjunction is generally considered the most powerful aspect and are intense. The square is intense in that there is friction that needs to be resolved, which usually leads to action in a positive, constructive way or dysfunction but the caveat is above re these aspects. IP: Logged |
Ann7
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posted April 10, 2009 04:36 AM
I've had a venus square mars D/W and the sexual attraction was intense and mutual. I've had one or two venus conjunct mars aspects - 1 that was combined w/ venus trine mars - asted about a year and another by itself- good sex but that was it. I guess I'm just looking for a general interpetation. Btw, the signs in question are aquarius/ conjunction and scorp/aqua square. No clue on the houses. The conjunction is almost exact, the square is somewhere between 3 & 5 degrees. IP: Logged |
cristiname
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posted April 10, 2009 05:27 AM
Ann,
a double wammy means the same exact aspect that two people have: my Mars trine your Venus, your Mars trine my Venus. the same aspect.it has no quality interpretation - having a double wammy isn't 'god' nor 'bad' by itself - the aspect matters. for instance: Pluto square Mars, Pluto square Mars (my pluto, your mars, your pluto, my mars). the interpretation: we make each other angry. the double wammy makes for 'each other'. no double wammy, one of us makes the other angry. so
in this case - no double wammy.
the square has an irritating effect (what one likes(venus) irritates the need for action and initiative of the other (mars); these are different signs - like tau and Aqua; one wants comfort, holding hands, the other wants freedom, fighting injustice; big difference. there may be attraction, but it takes other factors in the chart to decide it works; just these two: the Tau will stay at home, eating, while Aqua will take off into the world; come back afterwards and still talk about his revolution, which evwentually will get annoying for Tau) while the conj may point to a certain similarity - between what one likes (Venus) and how the other goes after what they want (Mars). P.S. I can see the concept of a double wammy has taken off, but that's only because people want ONE simple indicator for a 'good' rel; no such thing. for certain charts, a trine is boring. some people need more. so having a synastry trine may not mean much for certain people. IP: Logged |
Ann7
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posted April 10, 2009 06:48 PM
Hmmm... interesting point. Ok, then scratch the original question. In venus conjunct mars and venus square mars, who feels the most attraction - venus or mars? Btw, thanks for all of the great info! IP: Logged |
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posted April 10, 2009 07:11 PM
i disagree cristiname, DWs are not always the same aspect, but a two-way contact between the same planets! both people will feel this but not necessarily in the same way...IP: Logged |
Ann7
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posted April 10, 2009 07:39 PM
That's what I thought after reading several posts here but regardless, I'm more interested in who feels the pull/ attraction. IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted April 10, 2009 08:40 PM
I think they both feel the sexual attraction, but she feels more of the romantic attraction. IP: Logged |
Lucia23
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posted April 10, 2009 09:53 PM
Just writing about this in the Double Whammies thread...I had this with someone (my Venus trine his Mars, his Mars more tightly conjunct my Venus, in his 5th house, my 7th.)We were both attracted, but for him it was at first sight, while I noticed it later. When I noticed it, I fell in love with him. He definitely felt a romantic pull as well as a sexual pull...he told me years later he never got over me. I never got over him either. To me it felt like being "in love", and that's how he described it too. IP: Logged |
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posted April 10, 2009 10:57 PM
Ditto Belage. The person's planet involved in the aspect will make the person act out the qualities of the planet. So the Venus person would be loving, charming, sensuous etc. Mars person would be sexually attractive, sexy, driven. Both will feel it very strongly but differently. IP: Logged |
Lucia23
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posted April 10, 2009 11:39 PM
I also think the Venus person can get put on a pedestal, especially if she's the woman.IP: Logged |
cristiname
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posted April 11, 2009 06:51 AM
quote:
both people will feel this but not necessarily in the same way...
both feel what?
look. there's a difference between diffeernt aspects. if there was no difference, they had the same name. you can define a double wammy whatever you like; fromwhat I know, it was a shortcut when there was the same aspecr both ways - sp that you didn't need to write the same exact interpretation twice. that is 'they feel the same' - because they have the same aspect. if the aspect is different, they feel nothing of the same! a square is so much different than a sextile! there's NO same.
in order to know what they feel you need to interpret each aspect. no shortcut. just bacause there're the same two palnets involved doesn't mean you can assume some sort of identity. who feels more? the square is more intense than a sexile. and it's more accute than a conj. we cannot compare! people feel differently. you can't add cows to apples and ask 'how many'. Mars square Venus is tension, sexual tension or anger. Mars trine Venus is comfort or feeling about someone as if they were your brother or sister. It still depends on the actual person. and the rest of the chart. IP: Logged |
Ann7
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posted April 11, 2009 09:04 AM
What I'm getting at is when venus is conjunct mars, does venus feel the sexual pull and when venus is square mars does mars feel the sexual pull? Where the flip side to those would be much affection but not neccesarily overwhelming attraction. I'm going by what I've read, now I am curious to hear personal oppinions. Again, thank you for the feed back - I can see your point. IP: Logged |
cristiname
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posted April 11, 2009 03:48 PM
only someone very perceptive, and very honest with themselves, and with a load of self-knowledge and experience, and emotional maturity could answer that. most people don't analyze themselves so much when they're attracted or in love. and even if they do, I don't know if the actual state they're in isn't preventing clear observation. but I sure am curious too IP: Logged |
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