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GemGemGem
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posted April 13, 2009 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemGemGem     Edit/Delete Message
Can you change your fate for the year by where you are during your solar return?

Some say the course of your solar return can be changed according to your location in the world during the solar return, since it changes the charts ascendant and houses. I had read a thread here which spoke about how people travel to different places in the world on their birthdays to try to improve their solar return years.

There seems to be conflicting opinions regarding this though, cause some say it won't change your chart for the entire year unless you stay in that location that whole year, and others say it will change it as long as you are in that location on your solar return birth DAY only.

Would anyone please be able to confirm for me, which one is correct?

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belgz
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posted April 13, 2009 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
well my solar return chart will occur one day before my birthday and i will be up in the sky flying across australia on my way back home from europe at that time, and it occurs at 17:15 and i will land in sydney at 19:00

So i wonder how thats going to work lol

I really like my solar return for sydney i want it to stay put for the sydney one.

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Sun.. Cancer

Moon.. Gemini

Mars.. Cancer

Mercury.. Cancer

Venus.. Leo

Ascendant....... Virgo

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posted April 13, 2009 10:35 AM           Edit/Delete Message
I dont believe traveling to another city does anything if youre only there for a little bit. I learned the hard way. I traveled 3 hours away, booked a hotel for 3 days, and spent my birthday alone, just to see if it would change anything, and it didnt. I believe it changes only if you live there for at least 3 months after your birthday. You need to be there for awhile. I think once you go back to the city you live in, the solar return changes back to your regular location.

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Glaucus
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posted April 13, 2009 10:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
I have to disagree

the events of a solar return aren't going to happen right away ......especially not after just a day ....nor even a week.....maybe not even a month. I feel that meeting my father was a big event in my mom's solar return period of June 1969 to 1970. She didn't meet my father until February 1970,and that was 8 months into the solar return period.

also what about people that have their birthdays out at sea.......say there on a WestPac? it gets more complicated. I was in the navy. I had my 22nd birthday out at sea when I was on West Pac deployment. We were on our way to Fremantle/Perth, Western Australia. I think that we were off the coast of Somalia when I turned 22.


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GemGemGem
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posted April 13, 2009 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemGemGem     Edit/Delete Message
Glaucus, sorry i'm a bit confused. Are you saying you think the solar return year WILL change even if you are in a different location just on your birthday (even if it's just for a few days), or do you think you have to be there for longer, like months, for it to take effect? Sorry, it's Monday morning and my mind is not awake yet.

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Glaucus
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posted April 13, 2009 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
Raymond Merriman who is the author THE NEW SOLAR RETURN BOOK OF PREDICTION strongly believes that you can change possible outcomes by relocating for your Solar Return. He doesn't believe that you have to stay in that location for a year either. He practices it too. He actually relocates to have a solar return for what he wants. He compares it to Feng Shui. He talks about it in his book.


any ways...Raymond is a hardcore astrologer like many professional astrologers are in that he actually uses Astrology to plan things so things work out well.

he wrote the book on his honeymoon! hahahahahaha

He actually advises relocation for a better solar return if you can do it.


I am not relocating for any of my solar returns.......definitely not next one


page: 160
A proper solar return involves the following features:

1. Determine the subject's intentions for the year.
2. Determine a location where the horoscope for that moment will support the realization of those intentions.
3. Encourage the subject to plan an experience going into the time of the solar return that will symbolically reflect the positive unfoldment of those intentions.
4. At the moment of the solar return, encourage the subject to find a quiet place to meditate, to visualize his/her goals and wishes for the year. It is important to be reverent for this moment.
5. Plan activities during the 24 hours that follow the solar return that are pleasant, enjoyable, and avoid all stress if possible.
6. Keep a diary of events and experiences that unfold
6 hours before through 30 hours after this solar return moment. Convert thos times to calendar dates for the next year, to get an idea of what themes will evolve - and they will unfold - during this year.

from page 149:
In many respects, a properly planned solar return experience is akin to being the ultimate Feng Shui of astrology. As with Feng Shui, the practitioner of the subject, and then perform the art of arrangement concerning the setting and location. In the case of solar returns, the intention has to do with the client's goals for the year, if not for the entirely of one's life. In other words, goals for the year are most attainable when they are consistent the overall view of one's entire life. The arrangement serves the purpose of enhancing the attainment of those goals, the realization of one's visions, and a behavior consistent with one's values and highest attitudes. This is reflected in the arrangement of one's planets in a horoscope (solar return horoscope) that the astrologer chooses. Thus the solar return consultant calculates a location for the time of one's solar return that will reflect - show an arrangement off - planets in houses and planets in aspects to angles that are in alignment with that client's intentions goals,visions,values,and desired attitudes for this of his/her life (i.e. the year pertaining to the solar return). The arrangement is further augmented by the actual efforts the native puts forth into that sacred event - what he/she does during that solar return period.

Raymond

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GemGemGem
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posted April 13, 2009 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemGemGem     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Glaucus!

Does anyone know a good place or person where I can get a professional reading of my solar return chart? I want charts done for 2 different locations I may spend my birthday this year...New York or London. I wanted a reading so it can help me decide where to spend my birthday!

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posted April 13, 2009 12:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message
www.myspace.com/geocosmicvalentine
Shes really good and helps a lot of people on here.

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GemGemGem
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posted April 13, 2009 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemGemGem     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Writesomething!

I will definitely reach out to her! I'll have to contact her via email... I can't access Myspace from where I am.

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