posted April 14, 2009 05:44 PM         

I would like to know why she is stuck. It breaks my heart. She's always talking about dying, and I think sometimes she feels she'd be better off dead because I'm her only achievement in life. She doesn't want me to have a relationship or to have kids and phones me threes times a day and always wants to know where I am - I'm 30!

Does she have a sad chart? Life has been tough for her and unfortunately it's never really changed. For me I noticed that any transit involving vennus, whether positive or negative, does not bring relationships or necessarily excitment towards me. I don't know whether this is because venus is retrograde in my natal chart. I feel a bit stuck at the moment myself, not knowing where I'm heading but I'm not as bad as my mum thank god.

To end this rather bleak post on a positive note, please go out there and live life to the fullest and learn to love the ups and overcome the downs.

Mum: 20 November 1953, 12 noon, Kingston, Jamaica http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e &gif=astro_24gw_02_mum_2009414.78045.10167.gif&res=100&va=&cid=x7qfileMQnqQ2-u1239371040

Me: 22 October 1978, 12.30am, London, England http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e& gif=astro_24gw_01_me_2009414.78102.11084.gif&res=100&va=&cid=x7qfileMQnqQ2-u1239371040

posted April 14, 2009 06:08 PM         

but it's not that Astrology doesn't work for your mom. It's just your mom.

Free will is the ultimate factor

it doesn't matter how nice the transits are, if the person isn't doing anything positive that is in synchronicity with the transit, then the transit is just a wasted opportunity. Also there could be other challenging transits,secondary progressions,solar arcs at the same time during those nice transits. Of course,there is the natal chart that is in synchronicity with the person's predisposition.

that stuff about her being a man-hater and doesn't want you with men .............good grief.......that's how my exgf's mother is! That's why she and I aren't together.

I believe that people can change if they work and put in the effort.

I will mention one thing about her chart

she was born during a full Moon, and that indicates a person that is very sensitive,moody,emotional. That means that her Sun and Moon are in opposition, and Pluto is squaring that opposition which indicates that intensity,transformation are in friction with her feminine energy,emotional nature,feelings,unconscious and her masculine energy,ego,self expression,conscious that are at odds with each other.

with the Pluto in 7th, I wouldn't be surprised that she experienced betrayal in relationships.....especially squaring Sun-Moon opposition which can indicate problems in relationships with others and self. This can result in her having trust issues,resentment,and have difficulty with letting go of the past (especially square the Moon).

Her challenge is to be able let go of things, so she can regenerate transform herself. If she doesn't, more resentment will build in and could lead to health problems.

posted April 15, 2009 04:01 AM           

...It's so sad to hear your story about your mum. I'm really sorry..My mum has some similar problems...

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I love my mum dearly, but nothing exciting has happened to her since I was born 30 years ago. I look at her astrological transits every year but nothing is really applicable because for my mum, she's stuck...life is going nowhere. She goes to work and comes home. She rarely leaves her part of London, she doesn't socialise, she hasn't any friends, she's been in the same job for the past 35 years and has been complaining about her next door neighbour for 25 years. She dreams of winning the lottery so she can move out of her apartment and won't let me grow up. She is a life-long depressive and a man-hater (so you can forget about any positive venus transits!). She doesn't really like people and in a room can be as quiet as a mouse. But inside is a volcano and a mouth that can spit pure venom and hurt you deeply.

I would like to know why she is stuck. It breaks my heart. She's always talking about dying, and I think sometimes she feels she'd be better off dead because I'm her only achievement in life. She doesn't want me to have a relationship or to have kids and phones me threes times a day and always wants to know where I am - I'm 30!

Does she have a sad chart? Life has been tough for her and unfortunately it's never really changed.

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My mom has Pluto Rx in 1st house (opposite 7th house). Chiron conjuncts her DC.

Uranus Rx near the end of 12th house. Her Moon is in Scorp right on MC opposite Mercury at IC! A case of tension between extreme emotional nature and highly analytical mind...Saturn in 5th house doesn't help much either.

It breaks my heart whenever she's depressed. Things have been bad and unfair for her but I admire her courage and strength to go through it all and try so hard to keep a positive mind. She does analyze, think a lot...Sometimes when I was small, she lost her cool and went berserk. That was when she hadn't let go of the poisonous relationship in her life. once she was out of it, (let go gradually...), earn a new degree, change work places.., hang out with new people, she's come alive again I guess people born with Pluto in 1st house and 7th house have a lot to learn and go through in this life. particulary about self worth, balanced dependence on yourself/others. Bless them and their admirable potential strength.

And I agree with Glaucus, maybe you are born with less sunshine than others. But you CAN COME THROUGH. You yourself must believe so and help yourself (with aid of others).

On a different note, let's forget astrology and think of other factors..Like if she's been complaining about neighbors. How about you helping her moving to a different neighborhood?? I don't know about job change..If she's near retirement then it won't really work. But if you can open a flower shop (just a random example..) and feel better with it more than crunching numbers then why not? Feeling unaccomplished at the end of your life can't be helped...if you indeed haven't achieved much while aiming higher...But if she can change the way she thinks of "accomplishment" then it will be better, right? I found her saying that you are her achievement actually sweet. you are still her pride.

Man-hater...Have you been talking with her about relationships? Like helping her get rid of unhealthy ones and try to open up more? I talked to mine recently (when I became 21 :| I was too young before to know or even discuss relationships with her..) and discovered that she has some patterns of knowing what's bad for her yet trying to be polite, friendly, tolerating and not bringing it up to face of the offenders/jerks/wtv. One must respect, love herself first...Open up...open up..whether it's love or anger.

Besides, my mom has been complaining about returning depression as well. I attribute it her to menopause. It's true biologically and psych-ly. My explanation and encouragement made her feel better! I wonder if the your mom has gone through this recently too??

Uhm...I just noticed your mom doesn't have any fire..She *felt her problems worse and had a harder time than others. My mom is a Sag with Leo rising...

posted April 15, 2009 04:08 PM         

Astrology definitely works with your mother's chart. From what you explained about her life, I'd say her chart is spot on!!

Her chart suggests that she has experienced some very difficult things in life that most people wouldn't be able to sit through the stories because they are so difficult.

I wonder if she was really born at 12 Noon or if you just set the chart for that time. Please clarify when you can.

Just looking at those 4 planets in Scorpio can tell the story to a certain extent. People underestimate just how dark Scorpio can be. It appears that your mother has had some very dark experiences in her life, particularly in the 80's as Pluto traveled across those 4 planets in Scorpio.

And remember another thing. The chart is not read from YOUR perspective and what you think should happen. It's being lived by HER perspective. So just because something good happens in her chart and you don't see her show it outwardly or tell you all about it doesn't mean it didn't happen or that she wasn't joyful for a moment or two when not in your presence.

My father can be the same way. I know he's had joy in his life, he just doesn't talk about it much, pretends he doesn't remember it, but I do and I remind him. Sometimes he'll even deny it, but he's lying.

The sign of Scorpio tends to be an isolation sign. People hide there, isolate themselves even to the point of lonliness.

posted April 15, 2009 04:10 PM         

She definitely has Pluto squaring her sun, so she always feels that powerful people are against her and she probably feels persecuted even when she doesn't know why or by whom.

HOWEVER, there is the possibility that she might surprise you in the future. Pluto will be sextiling her Saturn Venus conjuction in the coming years, and trining her moon, and this might bring about deep transformation for her.

Also, she has natal Jupiter trine natal Neptune, and it's a nice aspect to have, and the current transit of Neptune in Aquarius will be creating a grand trine for her, so don't be suprised if things do improve for her.

Still, I would like to see her chart, with her ascendant, so I can see where the planets falls.

posted April 16, 2009 08:49 AM         

My chart: http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&g if=astro_24gw_01_me_2009416.46078.6980.gif&res=100&va=&cid=x7qfileMQnqQ2-u1239371040

I'm not certain of my mum's birth time, but I reckon she is an Aquarius ascendant because it's attributes I associate more closely with my mum than any other rising sign.

By the way, how do I insert charts into my post like others do?

Thanks again for your advice and opinions especially Valentine. You were bang on, the 80s was a terrible time for my mum (debts, crazy ex) even though she had more confidence back then. By the end of the 80s she began suffering from panic attacks and she still does until this day. There's simple things that she can't do like go on escalators. Her childhood and teenage years were tough too.

Belage: I hope she does change because it will mean she can set me free and be happy that I want to get on in my life.

posted April 16, 2009 11:04 PM         

My exgf,Meghann could use the same exact advice with her mom.

Please don't let your mom's issues hold you back from being happy and finding true love.

You have your own life just like your mom has hers.

transiting Pluto opposing your Moon is about letting go of past issues,and that could include issues with your mother.