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Lara
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posted April 15, 2009 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
OK i know we have done synastry to death but i'd like to start this thread to analyse and look at everyone's synastry with the following rules:

(if this has been done before then i'm really sorry)

CONJUNCT - only use up to 2' aspects
OPPOSITION - only use up to 2' aspects
SQUARE - only use 0' aspects
TRINE - only use up to 1' aspects
QUINCUNX - only use up to 1' aspects
no sextiles or other aspects.

Plus any parallels/contraparallels up to 3'.

you can use all planets, asteroids except the mythical or historic ones.

Who wants to have a go at this? I'm interested to see what is important. planets or asteroids or both.

I'll go and do mine now.

DD, i hope you join in with Jude and maybe we can look at a few famous couples too like Melanie Griffiths etc.

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Yin
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posted April 15, 2009 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message
I'm not sure I have the right ones. Here are all the aspects.
His True Node conjuncts my Mars
Hi Mercury conjuncts my Asc
Hi Chiron opposing my Uranus
His Mars squares my Sun
Hi Mars trines my Uranus
His Chiron in Quincunx with my Pluto
His True Node trines my Uranus

Oh, crap, I just realized you wanted all the asteroids too.
I'm bad at this...

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Lucia23
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posted April 15, 2009 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
I don't understand these rules...shouldn't the orbs get narrower based on the speed that the planet/asteroid moves through space?

So, a wider orb for Sun-Moon aspects, a narrower one for outer planets/asteroids?

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Lara
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posted April 15, 2009 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
hmmm good point Lucia. Lets wait for DD to come along and correct me

I was basing it on the most potent aspects with a wider orb and the less potent/hard ones with a smaller orb.
Maybe i'm wrong?

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Lucia23
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posted April 15, 2009 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
Based on these rules, with the guy I can't get out of my head, we have:

His Sun trine my Saturn (0)
His Moon trine my Venus (1)
His Merc trine my Jupiter (1)
His Merc trine my Juno (0)
His Merc opp my Eros (0)
His Jupiter trine my Vertex (1)
His Saturn square my Psyche (0)
His Saturn trine my Cupido (1)
His Uranus conjunct my Neptune (0)
His Pluto square my Venus (0)
His Pluto conjunct my MC (0)
His NN square my Jupiter (0)
His NN opposed to my NN (1)
His NN square my Juno (0)
His Vertex opposite my Uranus (2)
His Vertex conjunct my Chiron (2)
His Lilith trine my Uranus (1)
His Lilith square my Part of Fortune (0)
His Juno opp my Uranus (2)
His Juno conjunct my Chiron (2)
His Psyche conjunct my Neptune (2)
His Eros conjunct my Mars (2)
his Eros opp my Jupiter (1) and Juno (2)
His Lust square my Sun (0)
His Asc square my Moon (0)
His Asc trine my Lilith (0)
His Asc conjunct my Valentine (1)
His Asc square my Cupido (1)
His MC conjunct my Moon and Saturn (1)
His MC square my Valentine (0)

Edited to add in Adonis/Aphrodite:
His Moon square my Aphrodite (0)
His Chiron square my Aphrodite (0)
His Adonis trine my Jupiter (1)
His Aphrodite opp my ASC (1), conjunct my DC
His Adonis opp my Eros (1)
His Valentine conjunct my Aphrodite (1)
His Valentine conjunct my Adonis (0)
His Amor opp my Adonis(0)
His Amor opp my Aphrodite (2)

Agh, now that I add these I notice Astrodienst wasn't putting in all the asteroids I requested! So I'm missing some aspects.

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posted April 15, 2009 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls     Edit/Delete Message
Current Boyfriend
His ASC ruler: Moon
His DSC ruler: Saturn
My ASC ruler: Mercury
My DSC ruler: Jupiter

Mine/His:
Mercury opposite Moon (2)
Sun conjunct MC (1)
Moon opposite Amor (0)
Venus conjunct Valentine (0)
Mars conjunct Saturn (0)
Mars square Sun (1)
Jupiter conjunct Amor (0)
Jupiter trine Saturn (1)
Saturn opposite ASC (1)
Uranus opposite ASC (1)
Neptune trine Psyche (1)
Pluto conjunct Vertex (1)
Pluto opposite Mars (1)
Pluto square Venus (0)
Pluto square Aphrodite (0)
NN conjunct Sun (1)
NN conjunct Adonis (1)
Chiron opposite Saturn (2)
Vertex conjunct Vertex (2)
Juno conjunct Jupiter (0)
Eros square Amor (0)
Psyche trine Sun (1)
Psyche square MC (0)
Valentine inconjunct Saturn (0)
Aphrodite conjunct Valentine (0)
Adonis conjunct Pluto (0)
Adonis square Juno (0)
ASC opposite Uranus (0)


Ex boyfriend of 2 1/2 years:
His ASC ruler: Mercury
His DSC ruler: Neptune
My ASC ruler: Mercury
My DSC ruler: Jupiter

Mine/His
Sun trine Venus (1)
Venus conjunct Vertex (1)
Venus opposite ASC (0)
Venus square MC (0)
Mars inconjunct Mercury (0)
Mars opposite Venus (0)
Mars trine Eros (1)
Saturn inconjunct Jupiter (0)
Saturn square ASC (0)
Saturn opposite MC (0)
Uranus inconjunct Jupiter (0)
Uranus square ASC (0)
Uranus opposite MC (0)
Neptune opposite Juno (0)
Pluto conjunct Psyche (0)
Chiron conjunct Venus (2)
Vertex trine NN (1)
Vertex trine Valentine (1)
Juno trine Sun (0)
Juno trine Moon (0)
Juno square Chiron (0)
Psyche trine Mercury (0)
Aphrodite conjunct Vertex (2)
Aphrodite opposite ASC (0)
Aphrodite square MC (0)
Adonis conjunct Pluto (0)
Adonis trine Juno (0)
Adonis conjunct Psyche (2)
ASC opposite Saturn (0)
ASC opposite Uranus (0)
ASC square Vertex (0)
ASC conjunct MC (1)
MC trine Chiron (1)

Guy I left my ex for, dated for a month didnt work out, we're still friends and he still hits on me:
His ASC ruler: Pluto
His DSC ruler: Venus
My ASC ruler: Mercury
My DSC ruler: Jupiter

Mine/His:
Mercury conjunct Sun (2)
Venus conjunct Jupiter (2)
Venus square Vertex (0)
Mars square Moon (0)
Mars conjunct Saturn (1)
Jupiter conjunct Mars (2)
Jupiter trine Uranus (1)
Saturn opposite Vertex (1)
Uranus opposite Vertex (1)
Pluto trine Mercury (1)
Pluto inconjunct Eros (0)
Chiron opposite Uranus (2)
Vertex trine Valentine (1)
Vertex conjunct ASC (0)
Valentine trine Moon (0)
Adonis conjunct Pluto (0)
ASC trine Sun (0)
ASC square Jupiter (0)
ASC opposite Uranus (1)
ASC conjunct Vertex (1)
MC opposite MC (0)


Aspie guy I still have dreams about
His ASC ruler: Sun
His DSC ruler: Uranus
My ASC ruler: Mercury
My DSC ruler: Jupiter

mine/his
Moon conjunct Mercury (2)
Moon trine Juno (0)
Moon conjunct Eros (0)
Mercury trine Mercury (1)
Mercury conjunct Juno (1)
Mercury trine Eros (1)
Mercury opposite ASC (0)
Venus opposite Sun (2)
Venus square Chiron (0)
Mars square Mars (0)
Mars conjunct Uranus (2)
Jupiter opposite Moon (2)
Jupiter opposite Mercury (1)
Jupiter trine Uranus (1)
Jupiter trine ASC (0)
Saturn opposite Chiron (0)
Saturn inconjunct Valentine (0)
Uranus opposite Chiron (1)
Uranus inconjunct Valentine (0)
Neptune square Venus (1)
NN square Uranus (0)
NN inconjunct Eros (0)
NN trine Amor (1)
NN inconjunct ASC (0)
Chiron opposite Uranus (0)
Chiron trine Juno (0)
Chiron trine Eros (0)
Vertex opposite MC (0)
Juno opposite Sun (0)
Juno conjunct NN (0)
Juno opposite Adonis (1)
Eros opposite Amor (2)
Psyche trine Amor (1)
Valentine trine Mars (0)
Aphrodite conjunct NN (2)
Adonis conjunct Pluto (0)
ASC trine Moon (0)
ASC trine Mercury (1)
ASC conjunct Chiron (1)
MC inconjunct Adonis (0)

Although I think we should also look at Composite charts and count squares the same as trines. We should also look for DW and pay attention to house rulers.

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posted April 16, 2009 05:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Lara,

what asteroids do you mean? They are almost all from myths except for Lust maybe?

I agree on your take on orbs, they are tight enough to show where the real focus lies.

I`m not completely sure why you use only 0° fro square but 1° for trine though. Because quinkunx and trine are wider angles? and Square is only 90°?

Anyway we are talking about the degrees that appear in the astro.com`s table, right?


But what about parallels and contraparallels, we are not talking about 3 degrees here?. Do you mean 30 seconds or 18 seconds as orb for parallel / contraparallel?

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Lara
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posted April 16, 2009 05:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Hi DD

Sorry, i was tired and didn't explain myself well
I mean karma/valentine/eros/psyche etc yet not including the egyptian nor irish themed asteroids.

I used 0' for square as it is a stressful aspect, whereas quincunx and trine are creative. Shall we just say 0' for all aspects? or 1'?

Are there any other degrees apart from the astro table? I'm unaware of them

parallel and contra, l meant 1.2. So, look at declinations.
Example

2'00'54 and 3'20'37 are in orb but 2'00'54 and 3'26'37 aren't

What orbs and asteroids do you think we should use. I'm only using vertex and juno as additional objects.

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posted April 16, 2009 05:56 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Hi Lara,

I`d say 2° are fine for conjunction and opposition and 1° for the other aspects.
If we reduce the orb for the challenging aspects, but leave the orb for the harmonious ones bigger, we will of course almost always find more harmonious aspects than challenging ones, and that would distort the result.

So we have for the more harmonious aspects trine and conjunction (1° and 2°) and for the challenging ones square and opposition (1° and 2°) and the quinkunx is somehow flipping between both sides.
So, I think that is a good symmetry.


For asteroids I am using:
Juno, Karma, Eros, Psyche, Cupido, Amor, Valentine, Aphrodite, Adonis, Lust and Black Moon Lilith (even though it is not really an asteroid) and Chiron.
I`d like to include Vertex, but astro.com won`t let me, and I am not giving up Cupido!! :stamping foot like a little child:

So if I got that right an orb of 1.2 actually means 1 degree and 20 seconds? (I always got that wrong somehow)


Probably it would be good to make a little note of the aspects that include the ruler of 1st, 7th, 5th and 8th house, as they are so enormously important for relationship matters.

And yes I`ll have a look at Jude and my synastry this way, and also at one with another actor who impressed me much.

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Lara
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posted April 16, 2009 06:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
OK lets do your list then

I just wanna see if there is a pattern...

Shall we list our aspects in order; ie. conjunct's all together etc etc?
Makes it easier to see what's going on as the list is gonna be LONG.
You think we should just leave out parallels/contraparallels?

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posted April 16, 2009 06:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Jeez Lara, yes, the list is LONG, especially with all the parallels / contraparallels.

Maybe for now just let`s leave them out, I`m not completely convinced they work on their own anyway.

I`m not exactly sure what you want to find out. Do you want to know if there are more asteroid aspects than pure planetary ones?

However I`m simply going to post my list in the Jude-synastry (his planets first):

1.the "conventional" ones:

Sun conjunct Venus (1)
Venus conjunct NN (2)
Neptune conjunct Mars (0)
Neptune conjunct ASC (0)
ASC conjunct Neptune (0)
Pluto conjunct MC (0)
SN conjunct Saturn (0)
ASC conjunct NN (0)
ASC conjunct ASC (2)
MC conjunct Pluto (0)
Vertex conjunct Vertex (2)


Jupiter opposite Saturn (0)


Sun square Pluto (1)
Venus square Jupiter (1)
Pluto square Venus (1)
ASC square Jupiter (1)
Uranus square Vertex (0)

Saturn trine Moon (1)
Neptune trine IC (1)
DSC trine Pluto (0)
IC trine Neptune (1)
IC trine NN (1)
IC trine ASC (1)

Mercury quinkunx Vertex (0)


2. planets / points - asteroids:


Moon conjunct Adonis (0)
Mars conjunct Valentine (1)
Saturn conjunct Karma (0)
Neptune conjunct Lust (1)
Cupido conjunct Mars (2)
Cupido conjunct Neptune (2)
Cupido conjunct NN (2)
Cupido conjunct ASC (0)
ASC conjunct Lust (1)


VEnus opposite Karma (2)
Uranus opposite Chiron (2)
Valentine opposite Venus (0)

Uranus square Eros (1)
Mars square BML (0)
Valentine square MC (1)

Moon trine BML (0)
Mercury trine Chiron (0)
Mercury trine Cupido (0)
URanus trine Psyche (1)
Psyche trine Jupiter (0)
Adonis trine Jupiter (1)
IC trine Lust (1)
Eros trine Vertex (1)


MErcury quinkunx Eros (0)
NN quinkunx Karma (0)
Valentine quinkunx ASC (1)
Karma quinkunx Vertex (1)
Amor quinkunx vertex (1)
Vertex quinkunx Psyche (0)

3. asteroids - asteroids

Juno conjunct Amor (0)
BML conjunct Valentine (0)
Cupido conjunct Lust (0)
Amor conjunct Psyche (1)

Chiron opposite Aphrodite (1)

BML square BML (1)
Lust square Cupido (1)

Karma trine Chiron (0)
Karma trine Cupido (0)
Eros trine Eros (0)

Karma quinkunx Eros (0)
Eros quinkunx Cupido (0)
Amor quinkunx Eros (1)
Valentine quinkunx Lust (1)
Aphrodite quinkunx Aphrodite (0)


ruler of 1st house:
his: Jupiter
mine: Jupiter

ruler of 7th house
his: Mercury
mine: Mercury

ruler of 5th house
his: Venus
mine: Venus

ruler of 8th house:
his: Moon, Sun
mine: Moon

So that is THAT list.
Some interesting conjunctions.

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Lara
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posted April 16, 2009 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Yes DD.

I want to see what proportion of asteroid aspects there are to inner pure planet ones.

Things like if a couple don't have mercury/mercury aspects but do have mercury/eros or mercury/cupid or mercury/1st ruler

Also i'm interested to see the proportion of conjunct to opposition, trine to square.. or whether people gravitate toward a balance.

Basically i'm bored of normal astrology and wanna now dissect it more without confusing myself with too many aspects

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posted April 16, 2009 09:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message
And here`s that other synastry I mentioned:


1. conventional aspects:

Moon conjunct IC (2)
Venus conjunct Moon (1)
Mars conjunct Pluto (0)
SN conjunct Pluto (0)
DSC conjunct Neptune (0)
DSC conjunct NN (0)
Mercury conjunct Antivertex (1)


Moon opposite Pluto (1)
Pluto opposite Moon (0)


Sun square Uranus (1)
Moon square Venus (1)
Neptune square Saturn (0)
ASC square Jupiter (0)


Sun trine MC (1)
Moon trine ASC (0)
Mars trine DSC (1)
Neptune trine Moon (0)
NN trine Neptune (0)
NN trine NN (0)
ASC trine Pluto (1)
Antivertex trine Venus (1)


Venus quinkunx Saturn (1)
Saturn quinkunx Moon (1)
IC quinkunx Jupiter (1)
Antivertex quinkunx Mars (0)


2. planets - asteroids:


Pluto conjunct Cupido (2)
Juno conjunct MC (0)
Psyche conjunct Jupiter (2)
Aphrodite conjunct Venus (1)
Lust conjunct IC (2)
Cupido conjunct Antivertex (1)
Valentine conjunct Antivertex (0)

Mercury opposite Eros (0)
SAturn opposite Juno (1)
Neptune opposite Chiron (2)
Lust opposes Pluto (1)

Mercury square Chiron (0)
Juno square Venus (1)
Psyche square Neptune (1)
Psyche square ASC (1)
Aphrodite square MC (0)
adonis square Moon (1)
Lust square Venus (1)
Amor square Vertex (1)

Moon trine Lust (0)
Venus trine Karma (0)
Jupiter trine Aphrodite (1)
Neptune trine Karma (1)
NN trine Lust (1)
BML trine Venus (0)
Lust trine ASC (0)
ASC trine Aphrodite (1)
MC trine Aphrodite (0)
Eros trine Vertex (1)

Mercury quinkunx Cupido (0)
Saturn quinkunx Chiron (1)
Uranus quinkunx Amor (0)
Neptune quinkunx Juno (0)
Pluto quinkunx Juno (0)
Chiron quinkunx Saturn (1)
BML quinkunx Mars (0)
BML quinkunx MC (0)
Psyche quinkunx Pluto (0)


3. asteroids - asteroids


Amor conjunct Chiron (2)

Chiron opposite Karma (2)
Cupido opposite Eros (2)
Valentine opposite Eros (1)


Chiron square Juno (1)
Psyche square Lust (0)
Amor square Eros (1)
Adonis square Cupido (0)

Chiron trine Chiron (1)
Chiron trine Cupido (1)
Eros trine Eros (1)
Adonis trine Eros (1)
Karma quinkunx Aphrodite (1)

Ruler of 1st house:
his: Mercury
mine: Jupiter

Ruler of 7th house:
his: Jupiter
mine: Mercury

Ruler of 5th house:
his: Mercury
mine: Venus

Ruler of 8th house:
his: Saturn
mine: Moon

I put the rulers in bold in the above list.

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posted April 16, 2009 09:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Lara,

some time ago I made a similiar research.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/015090.html


"I had the idea this morning, to compare some synastry-chart and to see how many aspects within 2° the planets make, and if asteroids make a comparable amount of aspects like planets. I actually expected a clear picture of Sun and Moon making the most aspects, or at least I expected to get a CLEAR picture.

However, I used the planets, NN, Vertex, ASC, MC, Chiron, Valentine, Amor, Karma, Juno and Eros.
Of course I compared only 7 synstry-charts, so the results are probably not that telling.

But I was surprised to find out that the amount of aspects made were quite close to each other. There was only a difference of about 2,6.
The planet with the least aspects had 4,1 aspect (which was Amor) with the planet with the most aspects (Mercury) had 6,7 aspects.

Most made around 6 aspects (Chiron, Sun, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, ASC).


There were some things that got my attention:

1. Mercury
Why on earth did Mercury have so many aspects?
Well, looking a bit more closely I realized, that Mercury was either ASC- or DSC-ruler in 4 of the 7 cases.
In those other cases there were lesser aspects to Mercury than for example to Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars or ASC (even though the difference was not THAT huge).

HOwever, I then singled out the ASC- and DSC-ruler and looked if those made aspects to the other planets.
And this holds true especially for the ASC-ruler. He makes 6,1 aspects (average), which is similiar to the aspects, Chiron (5,9), Sun (6,1), Venus and Mars (each 6), ASC/ DSC (6,4), Juno (6) and Eros (6,6) make.

The DSC-ruler makes considerably less aspects - only 4,7.

But I noticed something else, which relates to the ASC- and DSC-ruler.

2. There was always, always a conjunction or trine (with opposition coming in third place) to either ASC-ruler or DSC-ruler in both charts.

I also noticed that there were many aspects with Eros. Only in one chart I didn`t find an aspect of Eros to ASC-ruler or DSC-ruler. Interestingly the aspect to the rulers are often squares.
Also there are two aspects-groups predominant:

his ASC-ruler conjunct or square her Eros
her DSC- ruler conjunct or square his Eros.


Another pattern I noticed was, that the ASC / DSC-ruler had always either an aspect to Vertex, Karma or the Nodes.


3. The Eros-aspects
This one surprised me quite a bit.
Eros made the most aspects of all other planets and asteroids (6,6) - and furthermore, it was only the two elder couples, who had only 4 aspects to Eros.
In the case of the younger couples, Eros made 7 - 9 aspects.
Paul and Linda Mc Cartney were caught in between with 6 aspects; I guess they weren`t either really old, or really young.


4. The other asteroid that surprised me was Juno (6 aspects). Thought that was rather high for an asteroid.
Interestingly she made the same or a higher amount than Moon-aspects.


Conclusion (for now):
Of the asteroids Chiron, Juno and Eros seem the ones that make themselves very known.
Valentine and Karma are a bit below average, (5,4 and 5,1), but since I only investigated 7 charts until now, the last word hasn`t been spoken on this matter yet."

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posted April 16, 2009 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Look at how there are so many more conjuncts than any other aspect!
Thanks for the link DD

Yes, well i'm sort of becoming convinced that we attract people with similar or opposing ELEMENTS to us but that it is not necessary to have sun/moon, sun/venus, venus/mars, venus/pluto, mercury/mercury within orb.

I agree with your EROS and JUNO theory... ok, gonna do my aspects now

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posted April 16, 2009 10:17 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Actually I think, rather than just tallying up the aspects, it would make sense to see if there is a correlation between natal aspects and synastry aspects, as people like and need different things.

Someone with a Venus-Mars-Pluto conjunction in Leo might need more fireworks than someone with Moon-Saturn-conjunction in Taurus could ever stand.

So, if a synastry has strong Venus-Mars and Venus-Pluto or Mars-Pluto-aspects, I think the first person would be insanely drawn to the person he makes such nice firework-aspects with, while the Moon-SAturn-person would probably be scared to the core and even experience a certain disike, as all this firework might be threatening to his or her need for security and a rather calm and warm exchange of feelings.


On the conjunctions; well in Jude`s and my synastry chart are a lot of conjunctions; actually more than I have seen in any other chart, perhaps except for the Antonio Banderas - Melanie Griffith and Paul Newman - Joanne Woodward charts (not that I would want to compare our synastry with theirs ).


But it doesn`t mean it HAS to be conjunctions. I like them. The ruler of my 7th house is in my 1st house conjunct Sun - I probably seek a "mirror".
Other people maybe can`t stand the mirror-thing, and would dislike someone who is very similiar to them.


For example: my friend, she is seeking a friend and a brother in relationships more than a passionate lover. It`s just nothing she really wants. She wants security, harmony, a home, a true partnership between equals and much communication and she wants long lasting (like for all eternity, or at least for this life), she also wants depth, but not the allconsuming passion.

Well, she has a Cancer ASC, and the ruler of her 7th house is in 3rd house. She seeks someone she can talk with.
I only wonder when that Mercury-Venus-Mars-Pluto-conjunction in Libra in 5th house opposing her Aries Moon will break free. lol


EDIT:
Oh btw I have to slightly disagree with just looking at the elements. If we do that, it all becomes very arbitrary, as there is nothing really unique about that. After all a planet spends a lot of time in the same sign (unless Moon or ASC of course).

But the signs definitely colour the underlying compatibility. But to tranfer that compatibility into a certain attraction, we need tight orbed aspects.
But WHAT aspects is exactly the question.

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posted April 16, 2009 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
CONJUNCTS
His Saturn conjunct my AC (0)

His moon conjunct my DNA (2)
His Neptune conjunct my Adonis (1)
His Pluto conjunct my vertex (2)
His juno conjunct my Pluto (0)
His vertex conjunct my vertex (0)
His DNA conjunct my juno (0)
His DNA conjunct my karma (0)
His Psyche conjunct my juno (2)
His BML conjunct my Adonis (1)
His Adonis conjunct my Adonis (2)

TRINES
His mercury trine my moon (0)
His mercury trine my Saturn (0)
His mercury trine my NN (0)
His mars trine my venus (1)


His moon trine my valentine (0)
His venus trine my cupid (0)
His Jupiter trine my juno (0)
His Jupiter trine my karma (1)
His NN trine my chiron (0)
His chiron trine my juno (0)
His chiron trine my karma (0)
His vertex trine my sun (1)
His BML trine my cupid (1)
His juno trine my mars (0)
His amor trine my Neptune (1)
His karma trine my venus (0)
His karma trine my NN (1)
His cupid trine my chiron (0)
His Adonis trine my cupid (0)

SQUARES
His mars square my mars (1)
His Saturn square my sun (1)

His Saturn square my karma (0)
His DNA square my AC (1)
His eros square my lust (1)
His karma square my mars (0)
His juno square my Adonis (0)


OPPOSITIONS
His moon opposes my Uranus (2)
His moon opposes my Pluto (2)

His DNA opposes my sun (0)
His juno opposes my DNA (1)
His psyche opposes my sun (2)
His amor opposes my Uranus (1)

QUINCUNXES
His vertex quincunx my AC (0)
His juno quincunx my venus (0)
His juno quincunx my NN (1)
His eros quincunx my chiron (0)
His amor quincunx my jupiter (0)
His karma quincunx my DNA (1)
His Jupiter quincunx my eros (0)


DD, how do you make text bold please so l can amend my aspects to include rulers?

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posted April 16, 2009 11:19 AM           Edit/Delete Message
you put this before the text you want to have in bold [ b ] and this after the bolded text [ / b ]

Of course you have to take away all the spaces: I only added the spaces so you could see how it is done.

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posted April 16, 2009 11:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message
I see you also share the Moon-Pluto-opposition.

Hw do you experience it?
Since you are Pluto, does it feel intense, passionate, transformative?
ARe you a little bit obsessed with him maybe?
Do you want to merge with him completely, on a soul level?
Does it feel like magic, like a vortex that is pulling you in and you can`t do anything but succumb?

Are you having a strong Pluto natally?
Could be Sun-Pluto or Moon-Pluto, ASC-Pluto, Venus-Pluto or Mars-Pluto (aspects, signs or house placements like Mars in 8th house for example).

In my case, even though it`s "only" celebrity synastry again, I definitely can feel those Moon-Pluto oppositions.

His Moon falls into my 4th house conjunct my IC opposing my pluto.
His Pluto falls into my 8th house opposing my Moon (and his Venus there) and my Moon rules my 8th house.
My own Pluto rules my 12th house (and 11th house).

So these Extra-intense Moon-Pluto aspects involve my hypersensitive water houses. In my case that was expressed through very emotional, partly disturbing, yet enlightening dreams, which mostly deal with issues from the past or rather people from the past.
I feel like the pure existence of him (and of course there is no connection) made something inside me dig up some really deep psychological stuff.
I know when I realized how familiar he felt, I spent almost a week crying, which is an untypical overemotional reaction (Moon in Aquarius!) to just seeing an actor on TV for me.

Not even Jude did evoke that strong emotional responses in me; this guy, well, it just felt like I have been overrun by a shockwave, and am still trying to deal with the aftermath.

AS a matter of fact there has not been one single night in the last month, I haven`t dreamed of him. That`s even for me a bit much. lol

I know it only has to do with me, with myself. But I`m a bit nonplussed, how someone, whom I don`t even know, never have met and never will, could have such an effect on my subconsciousness or even consciousness.

Well, I blame all these Pluto aspects.

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posted April 16, 2009 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, i am a bit obsessed! We are both obsessed.

My pluto is in my 8th and his 8th.

Natally i have
pluto quincunx venus (0)
pluto trine mars (0)
pluto quincunx moon (0)

Natally he has
moon opposing pluto (out of orb)
moon quincunx mars (0)
moon opposing juno (1)

hahaha and look at our sex aspects!!!
My venus trine his mars (1)

My venus quincunx his juno (0)

My mars trine his juno (0)

My Uranus conjunct his juno (4)

My Pluto conjunct his juno (0)

my BML trine his juno (2)
My juno/karma conjunct his eros (3)

My juno/karma conjunct his psyche (2)


pluto in each others 8th. My eros in his 8th!

Venus is our 4th ruler.

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posted April 16, 2009 12:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Does he have anything in the 8th house natally?
Or ruler of the 1st or 7th house aspecting Pluto?
Or ruler of 5th house in 8th house?


BTW Pluto in each other`s 8th house - usually that is generational and I wouldn´t consider it UNLESS Pluto aspects personal planets, as is the case with you. THEN it really hits home, doesn`t it?

And Eros in 8th house is a nice little (steamy) Bonus there.

I have natally a Saturn-Vertex-Eros-conjunction in 8th house, and to me that 8th house stuff feels really insane.
Even if something is "just" aspecting my 8th house ruler Moon, which is pretty unaspected ntally (except for the quinkunx to Saturn in 8th house), it leaves me not knowing where to run and hide. lol


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posted April 16, 2009 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
I have uranus (his AC ruler) in my 8th. His juno is in my 8th.

He has pluto in 8th and ruler of his AC (uranus) conjunct pluto.

He has mars in 7th/ruler of my stellium.
I have jupiter in 7th/ruler of his sun/mercury.

We both have vertex in 8th and each others 8th.

His 8th ruler MERCURY is trine my moon/venus/saturn/NN in my 3rd - naturally ruled by gemini.
My 8th ruler is square his saturn (which conjuncts my AC) and trine his uranus (his AC ruler) and square his AC.

These patterns seem to be quite interesting. FINALLY l think i'm getting to understand what you mean by the patterns

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posted April 16, 2009 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
AMOWLS
how does the saturn on the DC make you feel please? Is it your saturn or his?


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posted April 16, 2009 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Yin,

You are not bad at this at all! thanks for contributing
Are you happy to make a list cos that aspect table makes the thread so wide on my computer

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Lara,

Ruler of ASC conjunct Pluto definitely gives him a Plutonic vibe, even though it depends of course on other aspects, too.

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