posted April 16, 2009 01:05 PM           

So who is interested, could you please look if natal configurations appear in synastry again?

Natal configurations include the same constellation (Sun-Pluto for example) as well as the polar constellation (Moon-Pluto).

By constellation I mean:
Sign-position
House-placement
an aspect between the planets
(maybe the appropriate ruler in sign, house or aspect)

Example:

Let`s say there is a strong Sun-Pluto aspect in synastry.

Now I would look, if either party involved has Sun-Pluto or Moon-Pluto natally; that could appear like this:

Sun or Moon in Scorpio or 8th house
Sun or Moon aspecting Pluto (main aspects, maybe including the quinkunx)
[ruler of 5th house (the Sun-house) or ruler of 4th house (the Moon-house) in Scorpio, 8th house or strongly aspecting Pluto]

I`d say keep the synastry orbs rather tight, maybe 2° or at most 3°. And for natal I also think that allowing more than 6° or 7° may be too much.

Some examples from the synastry of Antonio Banderas and Melanie Griffith:

(1)
synastric aspect:
his Venus conjunct her Mars (0)

natal aspects:
his Venus squares his Mars (4)
her ASC (a Mars-point) trines her Venus (1)

(2)
synastric aspect:
his Venus conjunct her Pluto (1)
his Pluto conjunct her Mars (3)

natal aspects:
his Venus conjuncts his Pluto (3)
his Mars squares his Pluto (0) - polar aspect
ruler of 1st house (Mars-house) in 8th house (Pluto-house)
- JEEZ, I guess that man is really hot. LOL

her Mars conjuncts her Pluto (2)
her DSC in Scorpio (DSC is a Venus-point)

So, their tight synastric interplay of Venus, Mars and Pluto is actually a PERFECT reflection of what they already have natally, and thus probably exactly what they need.
It probably also points to what is the focal point of a connection.
I would not be surprised to find that when they started dating, that this Venus-Mars-Pluto thingy was also triggered by some significant progressions or transits.

I think not every single aspect will be reflected that way, but the important ones should.

posted April 16, 2009 04:58 PM         

To use 23| Mr 23.

Libra DC| His Venus conj his Sun
Libra DC | His Venus conj my Mars (chart ruler)
Pluto conj DC | Sco Moon
Moon conj DC | His Moon in my 7th
Uranus in 7th | His Moon conj Uranus
Mars in Gemini | Gem Sun (conj my Mars)
Sun opp Saturn/Sun in 10th | Cap AC
Pluto conj DC | His Pluto trine my Sun
Libraj DC | His Venus trine my DC

Mr 23 | 23

Cancer DC | Moon in 7th trine his Sun
Sco Moon | Pluto conj DC
Moon conj Ura | Aqu Sun square Ura
Moon conj Ura | My Ura trine his DC
Moon conj Ura | My Ura conj his Moon/Ura
Moon in 10th | Sun in 10th
Sco Moon | My Pluto widely trines his Venus/Sun
Venus in Gemini | Mars (chart ruler) in Gem conj his Venus
Venus in 6th | Mars in 3rd (both Merc ruled houses)

I was also thinking that he has Sun conj Venus and my Sun is in the visible 10th house. Sun rules my 5th. He has Sun/Venus opp Neptune and my Neptune is conj his Nep and my Neptune is trine my ASC. His Saturn also conj my Saturn which opposes my Sun/Merc.

posted April 16, 2009 05:37 PM         

1)
synastric aspect:
his moon opposing my pluto (2)

natal aspects:
his 4th ruler venus (in scorpio) sextile pluto (0)
his sun sextile his pluto (0)
her moon quincunx her pluto (1)

2)
synastric aspect:
his mars trine her venus (1)
his mars square her mars (1)

natal aspects:
his mars in 7th house (venus house)
his ruler of 1st house (Mars-house) in 8th house (Pluto-house)
his mars in her 4th house (her 4th ruler is venus)
her venus semi sextile her mars (0)
her venus quincunx her pluto (0)
her mars trine her pluto (0)
her ruler of 1st house (Mars-house) in 8th house (Pluto-house)

3)
synastric aspect
his mars trine her moon (3)
his moon sextile her mars (1)

natal aspects:
his moon opposes his mars (0)
his moon in her 3rd (ruled by mars)
his mars conjunct her jupiter (ruler of his sun)
her moon semi sextile her mars (2)
her mars in his 4th, naturally ruled by moon
Her moon trine his sun in jupiter

4)
synastric aspect:
his saturn conjunct her AC (0)

Natal aspect:
his saturn conjunct his AC (1)
her saturn quintile her AC (1)

5)
synastric aspect:
His sun trine her uranus (0)
her moon opposes his uranus (1)

Natal aspect:
His uranus quincunx his AC (aquarius) (0)
his sun sextile his uranus (7)
her sun square her AC (aquarius (1)
her moon quincunx her uranus (6)

6)
Synastric aspect:
his neptune trine her moon (2)
*his moon in pisces

Natal aspects:
his moon trine his neptune (7)
her moon quincunx her neptune (6)

7)
synastric aspect:
his mercury trine her moon (0)

Natal aspects:
his mercury opposes his moon (3)
her mercury in 3rd house conjunct her sun (1)

posted April 16, 2009 06:49 PM         

I don't like this aspect much, i know what it does to a person, makes you all dreamy about love, being in love with love itself. Love appears as a grand thing, something so devine, you spend a lot of time draming of someone special to come your way to complete you. Having this aspect in synastry is tough i think, people idealize eachother too much, not seeing the real picture.

I also have venus square mars in my natal, this aspect repeats itself in our synastry, since our marses are conjunct.

me
sun square saturn
saturn con AC

she
sun opposite saturn

together
sun square saturn

she
moon trine uranus
sun inconjunct uranus

me
moon con uranus
sun trine uranus

together
my sun trine her uranus
my moon con her uranus

she
venus opposite pluto(3)
me
pluto sextile venus(1)
synastry
my venus sextile her pluto (2)
her venus opposite my pluto (4)

she
mars opposite sun(8)
me
sun square AC(4)
synastry
mars con mars(1)

she
sun square MC(3)
me
sun con MC(6)
synastry
my sun opposite her MC(4)

she mars square MC(5)
me
mars square MC(4)
synastry
her mars square my MC(2)

she
sun trine jupiter(2)
me
venus trine jupiter(6)
synastry
her venus trine my jupiter(exact)
my sun inconjunct her jupiter(2)

she has moon sextile venus(exact)
in synastry my moon con her DC(4)

she has AC trine MC exact
together we have her AC sextile my MC(3)

she
venus con mercury(7)
me
mercury trine DC(1)
synastry
my venus trine her mercury(2)

If i got it right than mercury should be the ruler of her 5th house. The ruler of the house is determined by the sign on which the house cusp falls right? So if hers falls on virgo is than mercury her 5th house ruler? Her 7th ruler should than be jupiter(sagittarius), and her 8th should be Saturn since the cusp is in Capricorn. My 7th ruler is venus(taurus), my 8th is mercury(gemini), my 5th is Jupiter and/or Neptune since the cusp is in Pisces.

My Jupiter in capricorn and Neptune in sagittarius are in my 2nd, saturn in scorpio in 1st, mercury in virgo and venus in leo in 10th. My uranus(sagi) in 2nd. My mars is in 1st in scorpio.

Her Jupiter in capricorn is in 8th, Neptune in capri in 7th, Saturn in scorpio is in 6th, venus in taurus in 12th and mercury in aries is in 11th. Her mars is in 6th in scorpio. Her uranus(sagi) in 6th.

She is sun taurus in 12th, moon cancer in 1st, gemini rising, MC(aqua).

I'm sun leo in 9th, moon sagittarius in 2nd, scorpio rising, MC leo.

Do these rulerships and placements go well with the aspects above?? I would really appreciate some help i'm really confused lol.

posted April 17, 2009 12:19 AM         

natal:
her mars in 2nd house
his mars in 1st house
her mars sextile asc (0)
his mars trine venus (3)

2)
synastric:
his pluto sextile her moon (0)

natal:
his pluto trine his moon
her pluto trine jupiter (ruler of 4th house)
*both are loosely aspected but to the exact second

3)
synastric:
her uranus conjunct his sun (0)
his uranus conjunct her moon (1)

natal:
her sun sextile her uranus (3)
her sun in the 11th house
her moon conjunct uranus (7)
his uranus sextile venus (ruler of 5th house) (0)

4)
synastric:
his uranus sextile her mars (1)

natal:
his uranus sextile mars (3)
his uranus sextile venus (0)
her uranus in 1st house
her mars in aquarius
his venus in uranus

5)
synastric:
his pluto square her mars (3)
her pluto square his venus (4)

natal:
her venus in scorpio
his pluto in 2nd house
her mars square pluto (6)
his venus square pluto (5)

6)
synastric:
her sun trine his moon (2)
his sun sextile her moon (3)
his sun sextile her sun (3)

natal:
his sun opposite moon (1)
his sun in 4th house

7)
synastric:
his mars square her moon (1)
her DC conjunct his IC (1)
his venus trine her DC (1)

natal:
her moon in the 1st house
his mars forms T-square with his sun/moon opposition
his venus sextile IC

8)
synastric:
his jupiter square her mars (2)

natal:
his jupiter square venus (1)
her jupiter trine venus (5)

9)
synastric:
her jupiter t-square his sun/moon opposition

natal:
his sun in sagittarius
her moon in sagittarius

This was a good exercise! It looks like there's a lot of uranian and plutonian energy between us (on top of the usual venus/mars, and sun/moon)