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Writesomething
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posted April 26, 2009 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Writesomething     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 26, 2009 11:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ouch, my eyes just cant take it!

1st and 3rd opposed. Seems like an easily confused type.

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posted April 27, 2009 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Writesomething     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you really count that wide of an opposition between his venus/neptune? Im never sure if I should count it...its pretty wide.

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posted April 27, 2009 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonPixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ouch. mars square saturn.

out of curiosity, did he have any anger issues?

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posted April 27, 2009 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
15 degrees either side. Obviously, I count it. In what way complex?

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posted April 27, 2009 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yipes, is this with an exact birthtime?

Unless he's really evolved and lives in a very conscientious way, I'd guess he'd be more confused than complex. With that chart, he'd have to really struggle to be reliable, clear, or straightforward. Looks like he'd be a big slew of mixed messages in a romantic/personal/relationship context.

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posted April 27, 2009 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Writesomething     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Lucia23
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posted April 27, 2009 12:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are you still involved with him?

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MoonPixie
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posted April 27, 2009 12:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonPixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ah... i have a friend who is mars square saturn. he has trouble properly expressing his anger. he's very, very passive aggressive.

it's strange... a lot of people tell me that the scorpio mooners that they know are very unaware of their emotions. maybe it's because i'm a cancer, but i am very aware of my emotions. in fact, they're almost like this separate entity that i have to control. a need for control is a scorpio issue as well. despite being very social, even the closest people to me tell me that i seem to control my image. actually, a pisces told me this... he said that while my "image" (whatever that is) was true to my personality, he always felt that there was so much more simmering inside. he also said i seemed stressed...

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posted April 27, 2009 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He just seems like a very challenging person to try to stay involved with.

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posted April 27, 2009 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for eve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has he seemed any different since his Saturn return?

First things that jumped out to me are his Pisces Asc/Neptune cnj MC and Saturn on his NN.

I'm not telling you anything new when I say that a Pisces/Neptune influence can lead to a nebulous identity. It's not a deliberate intention to deceive others or himself. He probably feels that his identity is composed of many things, and he will play up the part of himself that he feels his environment most expects of him.

Saturn on his NN tells me that as he grows, he'll feel more structured. He'll learn to say no to possibility and instead figure out and cement his truest self. That cnj is significantly placed on his DSC. His other angles show a performing people-pleaser: not just his ASC and MC, but also his IC ruler is cnj Jupiter.

In the context of his whole chart, that Saturn-Mars square says to me less temper problems than it says someone who represses his own will in order to be what he believes others want him to be. The house rulers would indicate that too: 11th house ruler (society, love received) square 2nd house ruler (personal values and possessions).

I asked about his Saturn Return because I think once he starts feeling the Saturn-NN-Dsc part of his chart, he will have more clarity about who he is. He'll seem less complex because he will have made choices and limited who he is to others and himself.

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posted April 27, 2009 01:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
15 degrees on either side of an opposition is a quindecile.

But it's half six here and I've yet to have my morning tea (not a coffee drinker) so I could be getting facts muddled.

Gemini in Mars in the 3rd is as outgoing and garrulous as Scorpio Moon in the 8th is quietly introspective. It's an odd mixture, but I bet he doesn't miss much.

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posted April 27, 2009 01:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
30 degree aspects only. You know me

Neptune/Venus opposition wont be the best for concentration. Should be some difficulty with communication. 1st ruler Neptune is square Saturn, 11th. Unlikely to be the best at public speaking.
Probably comes off as quite shy and awkward at first, but likey to be more outgoing when getting to know.

A tad lazy and disorganised.

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posted April 27, 2009 02:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Morning.

Glad to see someone else is up and dosing themselves with caffeine in preparation for another a day of rushing around like an @rsehole.

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posted April 27, 2009 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mblover     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
write, could you post your chart?

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posted April 27, 2009 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That triple water combo alone worries me. I'm definitely biased since I know someone with the same combination and they're emotionally manipulative as hell.


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posted April 27, 2009 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Writesomething     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 27, 2009 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Writesomething     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
coffee- lazy? eh i dont know about that.

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posted April 27, 2009 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Writesomething     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 27, 2009 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dissecting a Scorpio moon is easy; just take a scalpel... I'm sure you meant a pre-mortem biopsy of some sort? (sorry, I watch too many hospital-shows)

Scorpio moon doesn't look too bad; not very many aspects so I doubt it'll surface much. It's all the water that worries me most; sure the person is just too deep for me to deal with...

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posted April 27, 2009 11:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mblover     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There seems to be several layers to dissect in this man. While Sco Moon stands out on the 8th, there are several areas that are also seen complex and unpredictable especially for people who are close to him.

Pisces rising with mystical nature and natural ability to escape when confused or hurt without discussing the issue comes in handy. The rising side of nature is how others see him, so the complexity and mystical side are found right when you meet the person. The man is seen handsome and attractive. But, utilizes those mystical eyes to communicate subtle emotions.

The Cancer Sun is way more complicated, manipulative and full of fluctuating energies. The silence or withdrawal does not need to be because of only Scorpio Moon. The mood shifts occur often and it is not easy to dissect Cancer emotions unless you know the past - ideally from childhood through now. Even though the man is a Cancer Sun, the relationship with his own Mother is rather complicated with an 8th house Moon.

Both Mars and Venus are in Gemini and the chart ruler Neptune is in the opposite sign. While aspects are not tight, Opposing Neptune to Mars/Venus would be way more confusing for this man himself to define what he wants in love. E.g. Gemini Venus passively and Mars actively wants fun, romance, social activities and light fun.. BUT, the Neptune in Sag will demand idealistic love, spiritual attitude, deeper philosophical understanding and grand gestures.

Then comes, the Pluto Square from Sun. Now look carefully, what you are trying to dissect in a Scorpio moon may lie in this Pluto on 7th Squaring the Sun. While its very nice to write that Pluto means transformation, it means you learn about relationship in much more depth etc etc, the sad news might be that you could be the scapegoat of his transformation. Libra Pluto is very discriminating about equality and justice in relationship and especially on the 7th house it will be demanding and not comforting.

Now, the man is going through Saturn return with transiting Saturn around DC. So, the fear of relationship especially squaring his natal Mars and Venus will occur throughout this cycle. Not easy for him or someone who is in love with him.

Coming back to Scorpio Moon - well the moon is void. But, the void moon in Scorpio is a very powerful inner work. It means the man expresses emotions only when the inner soul is ready. So, silence and then sudden explosions of insecurity and then sudden control on emotions may occur without the man himself knowing conciously what he is about to say or do. It should be also noted that a Void moon in Scorpio for another sun sign will be quite different from Cancer sun. So, only dissecting a Moon without looking at other params may lead into inaccurate conclusions.

To me, most of the above traits I have mentioned are on the negative side in dissecting the man's complexity. Obviously, there are many positive traits which you already know - the reason why - you are interested in finding something about him.

Without your chart, it would still be an incomplete story to understand what types of aspects, energies and manipulative depth this man will generate when in contact with you. But, it seems you've got most of the ideas on this man already.

Wish you the best with the ride in case its coming

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posted April 28, 2009 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Writesomething     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 28, 2009 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonPixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
writesomething... i feel as if i should help in some way because he and i have similar placements but i'm not really sure where to start...

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