posted April 27, 2009 04:24 AM         

BTW I see you are using Whole Sign houses. How are your experiences with the aspects of the houserulers in this system? Do they also work?

I also see Venus-NN-conjunction in 7th house trine Moon - that looks like a pretty emotional and soft connection.

posted April 27, 2009 05:06 AM         

Whole sign brings out the signs.

You can stay away from sex type stuff please, at least I hope you can
The physical act. Psychological is fine.

posted April 27, 2009 05:28 AM         

Seriously, it would help to know what kind of relationship we are looking at; it definitely will make a difference, if this is brother and sister, friends, lovers or co-workers.

And if this is a test, I may be the wrong person, as I am still trying to wrap my brain around composites.

So you do not like traditional rulers? well, I`m open towards their use, but actually prefer the new rulers as well.

Anyway there is some emphasis on the 9th house, especially with the opposition of Pluto to the Moon in 3rd house.
Obsessive feelings? Maybe also control issues?
Some emotional pressure?

I see, that Moon rules the 6th house and Pluto rules the 10th house, both houses of work; has it to do with work related situations, which have a rather intense, sometimes oppressive or manipulative influence on the communication in that relationship?

Oh one more thing, ruler of ASC is in Scorpio in 10th house conjunct Mars, which rules 3rd house.
So again this emphasis on 10th house, 3rd house and Pluto / Scorpio.
That is really interesting.
Is it a pattern in that relationship?
Intense communication revolving around career or public appearance?

Ah sorry, I don`t know, I`m just really bad at this composite stuff. But I`m going to read carefully what others are going to find out.

EDIT:
BTW is that a Davison chart?

posted April 27, 2009 05:52 AM         

Sorry, dont know what came over me there, back to the composite....

Sibling relationship.

Pluto is a strong theme throughout!

Emphasis on the 9th in the chart. My sis lives abroad. We dont really talk about religion.
Communication is generally good in that we speak very direct with each other. Uranus/Mars ruling 3rd. Though there is the male/female communication issue...problem that exists from time to time. Happens with both.
If I hold up an orange and say that is the colour orange, the message gets lost, a bit confused and translates into "that orange is the colour pink"

Direct communication we are good at. Understanding each other NOT.

Being in the 10th, youd think this was a relationship where all is good in public and then whatever in private. Not the case!

We have worked at the same place. Pluto is the best planet to describe that experience.

Thank you DD!

posted April 27, 2009 07:47 AM         

Its just named composite lol

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posted April 27, 2009 08:20 AM         

And at the same time pluto is square the sun, I would say that if this is a new friendship or relationship formed it wont really last because theres some problematic transits happening on the ascendant as well as sun.

There seems to be some power struggles and someone deceiving someone maybe. Neptune can mean someone is lying or something kept hidden.

There are no other major transits that would support this composite chart for the time being. It may feel as though there is a magical quality at the beginning but it will quickly dissolve and pluto will show whats lurking in the dark.
Uranus the ascendant ruler is square the 7th house ruler. if this were a marriage it would show of a sudden seperation or maybe even divorce. 7th also rules things like enemies so if this were a friendship i would still be making this assumption as there are no other supporting transits to this chart.

Last year uranus was sextile the moon but uranus has moved past 19 degrees. any reactivation of feelings may have dissolved.

Saturn is also passing the 7th house of this composite.

This relationship either already has or will not maybe survive these transits unless its a very good relationship and of course natals promise otherwise.

Sun conjunct saturn might show a long term involvement with one another.
but in a love relationship venus and mars is square and venus also receives a stressful aspect from uranus. with uranus being the chart ruler it would ONCE again make it difficult to maintain stability and could result in sudden break ups.

Anyways i tried lol.

xoxo

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posted April 27, 2009 08:21 AM         

you said it was the composite between you and your sister, did you invent that or are you twins or what am I not getting here?

You say it`s a composite, but the chart type sais: Natal chart.

I am a bit confused now.

So if you posted your natal chart as composite chart

posted April 27, 2009 08:45 AM         

quote:

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the conjunction of the r ulers of 1st and 7th house in the 9th house.

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posted April 27, 2009 09:38 AM         

I was using the traditional users in this case;
But in Coffee`s opinion this is a big "NoNo". However, even though I ususally put main emphasis on the new rulers (Uranus for Aquarius for example), the traditional ones don`t seem to be without value. But probably we could have endless and result-less discussion about that topic.

Geo,

well, that MC should be the 10th house is just something, many astrologer agreed on. It`s a "convention" (I hope I am using the right phrase here).
But there are also astrologers, who differentiate between the calling of the MC and the public image / career of the 10th house; those usually use Whole sign houses, equal houses or even Vehlow houses.

It`s a matter of taste, or let`s rather say, experience and research.
And maybe also a matter of perspective.

posted April 27, 2009 09:39 AM         

yes, you are fooling us all. You like to do that, don`t you?

Hmm, your turtoise has some nasty aspects to my chart, maybe I should back off, before I get hurt and defensive and will start insulting someone.
No, not likely today.

But you made me think of something. Since the composite with ourselves would be the same as our natal, can we see in our natal, what "relationship" we have to ourselves?
Like for example: My ASC conjunct Neptune, - alot of confusion about what the relationship is about? Which then leads to be a bit confused about myself or my image or whatever the ASC stands for?
Just a thought.

Anyway, back to the composite:

"Being in the 10th, youd think this was a relationship where all is good in public and then whatever in private. Not the case!

We have worked at the same place. Pluto is the best planet to describe that experience."
Well the ruler of 10th house conjuncts the ruler of 8th house - it definitely makes sense that there was a Plutonic vibe, even though I would have suspected that this tension would have been expressed on the 9th house area, as the conjunction is placed there.
Did your workplace fulfill some 9th house criteria?

Also, your Mars-Uranus-conjunction opposes Chiron - I don`t know if you think Chiron is important (I`m still on the fence about this one), but if it is, maybe there have been "difficult circumstances" at home, maybe relating to the family, which may influence your style of communication?

posted April 27, 2009 09:56 AM         

Maybe a young sea turtle, but not a tortoise. Check it's feet! And look how Neptune (the sea) conjuncts his 11th House 10th House Midheaven.

posted April 27, 2009 10:37 AM         

Is this turtoise on good conditions with its mother

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