posted April 28, 2009 01:12 PM         

No takers yet, but I'm going to wait a couple days before I give up entirely! LOL!!

posted April 28, 2009 05:40 PM         

Coffee, I like your name! LOL! I'm not 100% sure about his asc, but 80% sure.
It's still very early, so I'm nervous to see what we would be like out in public. We haven't really gotten there yet.

Writesomething, you don't beleive the perfect man exists? LOL! I think like cpn_edgar_winner said, i guess there is no perfect man, but they can be perfect for you. But my boss has been married for 40 years, and she says she met the perfect guy for her. They are still unbelievably infatuated and in love with eachother.

posted April 29, 2009 12:18 AM         

He dumps four planets into your 4th house of home and the intimate self. This explains, in part, why you are so fond of him and comfortable around him -- being around him literally feels like you're "at home," safe and protected. This is a very good placement if the two of you ever live together or start a family. He puts a lot of energy into your inner world, so that you become aware of deep parts of yourself because of him. Sometimes this can be a little scary, but since you already have Scorpio on your MC, you are very intense and relentless about investigating the deep corners of your soul... and you feel that he is supportive of this, that he shines loving, psychic, beautiful light into your spirit (Venus/Neptune in your 4th) and verbally brings to the surface your intimate needs (Mercury there).

Likewise, his sun and Jupiter in your 5th house is excellent for romance. This indicates you see him as "fun" and the two of you share some great times together.

Your Karma conjunct his Valentine and opposition his sun tells me this is a very fated union... the two of you have some serious lessons to learn from each other.

It's a little hard to see all the planetary aspects with so many lines, but it looks like his sun is trine your Venus and Mars -- excellent for romantic compatibility and definitely creates a feeling of adoration and fondness for him. Moon trine moon = excellent emotional empathy and understanding; easy time opening up to him.

However, his Saturn is conjunct your moon, which can be a very difficult aspect. As the moon person, you have this strange urge to censor or withhold your emotions -- you feel like, for some reason, he won't "approve" of your strong feelings or will look down upon any deep emotional displays. Whether or not he's done anything to indicate this is true, there's just something about him that makes you reluctant to COMPLETELY let go. He might seem cold in some ways, and distant -- very hard to read, like there's something beyond his loving words that you just can't access because he has it closed off. And all of this can add up to some fear and hesitation on your part, because you feel like if you do something wrong or let down your guard, you will lose him and be heartbroken. So you walk on eggshells, second-guessing yourself and trying to keep your feelings in check instead of being completely open with him.

His Mercury is also conjunct your Neptune -- very tightly, at that. This completely explains that feeling you have that he says all the perfect words, practically reads your mind with what you want to hear from a man. As the Neptune person, your qualities of fantasy, idealism, and romanticism are activated by his mind and words... when he says something romantic and loving, you're launched off into dreamland, not seeing his faults, feeling as though he is perfect. Eventually, the veil of Neptune's illusion will fall and you will see him (and his words) for what he really is... if he's genuine, there will be no problem -- but if you have been over-idealizing the situation and he has been encouraging your glossed-over perception of himself, it could be shocking and painful.

He has a moon/Uranus conjunction in Libra, which can be rather fickle and changeable. You might find that his emotions and sentiments change VERY frequently and he can seem downright unpredictable. As both planets conjunct your Pluto, you may take on a role of "transformer" in his life, where you try -- consciously or not -- to break him out of erratic emotional patterns. Over time, there could be very subtle power-plays where he rebels against your efforts to help him evolve, and where you become jealous and possessive of him. With his Chiron in opposition to the conjunctions, this has the potential to be rather painful for one (or both) of you.

However, don't let that scare you... there is a lot of potential here. Try to keep your feet on the ground and remember that no one is perfect! You will see his flaws eventually, and then you'll be able to better evaluate this relationship.

posted April 29, 2009 10:18 AM         

come back to earth when ur ready

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posted April 30, 2009 12:41 PM         

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"you are very intense and relentless about investigating the deep corners of your soul... and you feel that he is supportive of this, that he shines loving, psychic, beautiful light into your spirit (Venus/Neptune in your 4th) and verbally brings to the surface your intimate needs (Mercury there)."

Yes, Yes, and Yes. It's like he speaks to my soul, and gives me insight into it, that I never knew was there. He makes me look inward at myself, and invokes a deep sense of compassion in me. I'm not a Neptunian person at all, so it's strange to feel this way all of a sudden.

His Neptune is also in opposition to my Sun almost exact. So I feel like maybe he is deceiving me, or doesn't see me clearly. It's just so wonderful, romantic, and perfect right now, which I should be enjoying, but I have a heavy saturn influence in my chart which makes me keep second guessing everything.

No offense, but I really dislike Neptune! It's so foggy and unclear, and no solid ground to stand on. Our mercury/neptune conjunction, and Sun/Neptune opposition are all almost exact so I know that can point to major deception. I just spent the day in Altantic City with him yesterday, and it was one of the best days of my life. It was like a scene out of a movie, it's was ridiculously unreal! LOL!

Quote:
"As both planets conjunct your Pluto, you may take on a role of "transformer" in his life, where you try -- consciously or not --to break him out of erratic emotional patterns. Over time, there could be very subtle power-plays where he rebels against your efforts to help him evolve, and where you become jealous and possessive of him. With his Chiron in opposition to the conjunctions, this has the potential to be rather painful for one (or both) of you."

He does have a rebellious freedom loving spirit, so I can see how this could end badly and be very painful. I'm scared cause I don't want to put myself through that kind of relationship pain again.

We have a sun/saturn exact trine, venus/saturn square, and that moon/saturn conjunction which I'm hoping can stabilize us somehow and keeps us grounded. I spent all night thinking about it, cause I couldn't sleep.

Thanks so much for great insight and advice!

posted April 30, 2009 12:59 PM         

i would say you are right to have reservations when something seems TOO perfect, but cpn winner is right, we tend to look back in regret at what we DIDN'T attempt, not what we did...

posted April 30, 2009 06:24 PM         

He's not the person I thought he was. I have been crying all day at the office, and my body feels so weak, as if all the positive energy has been sucked out and I'm just a shell. I can't even speak, and barely have the energy to walk to my bus.

Why does life have to be like this? Why do people have to be so disappointing? I BELIEVED him. I am such a fool.

posted April 30, 2009 06:45 PM         

GemGemGem, I think the New York dating scene is just pretty horrible. I don't think it's you or even Neptune. I'm not sure why it's that way. But I keep meeting women in their late 20s/early 30s who were in longterm relationships till recently and are now single again and we are all going through this crap.

Good luck and I hope everything gets better! Also, this is a good headsup that, even with Neptune, you can trust your intuition...it let you know something was "too good to be true."

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"He makes me want to follow my dreams, and inspires me to be a better person somehow."

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posted April 30, 2009 06:58 PM         

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All the dreams, goals, spirituality he spoke to me about was BS. He lied to me about everything, EVERYTHING.

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Hi gem i was just going tell you about my old relationship that had sun/opposition neptune, and wow there it is for you, too. its funny how they can mix in that spiriuality crap in there too confuse you even more. ya, mine also "also inspired me, too." theses neptunes opp sun take alot of time to cultivate all this garbage to make it sound so good...just to poison you. had a sun trine pluto with this neptuanian a-hole which made it even more complicated! just to give you a head's up YOU WILL BE OKAY. better you know now than later, sweetie, im telling you. this will stick out in your mind and heart for a while. just if you can right now be thankful you did not have to endure this pain for longer than what you did. remember to not take it personal bc i'll bet your not the only victim. kudos for listening to that inner voice. he probably told you that you were being paranoid. sorry about your disappointment GGG! HUGS

posted April 30, 2009 07:10 PM         

presuming your friend doesn't want him for herself...i don't mean to be negative but when i was younger i had some pretty devious girlfriends!

is it possible that you gave him the leads and he just fell in step to appear to be who you wanted him to be? that to me is neptune tr. 7th in a nutshell...and something to think about before you meet another man.

posted April 30, 2009 10:49 PM         

The fact that you've posted on here about three different men who you had very, very strong feelings for in the past couple of months--the Taurus who you had almost-too-strong feelings for and you thought you might be falling in love, but then you went on one date and he was stingy, the Cancer Plork, and now this guy--leads me to believe that YOU have a whole big huge Vortex of YOUR OWN FEELINGS about life and yourself that you are projecting onto men right now.

You want to be inspired, in love, and connected. Who doesn't? But...after ending a marriage or other serious, intimate, long-term relationship, it's easy to look for what you had there (solace, intimacy, connection, whatever) in much, much more tenuous, casual, non-relationships with random guys who are mucking around the New York dating scene. If you take it all seriously and hope that every single, straight, NYC Taurus, Cancer, or Cappie is The One and that you can have some real, deep, intimate relationship with that person that's special, you'll be heartbroken at least once every three weeks.

Basically, you're dating--and you're putting the emotional heft of a REAL, intimate, long-term relationship onto these un-developed, new connections with players and dorks who have been single and dating in NYC for a long time, and who you have not known long enough or intimately enough to share those feelings with.

When you are a beautiful woman used to being desired, respected, and treated with some semblance of dignity and grace, it's a SHOCKER to run into guys who genuinely (and I mean, genuinely) act like they have a profound, spiritual connection to you, or even just a real friendship, and then have it turn out that they are a) competing with their pals to see who can nail you first, b) sleeping with a 22 year old in Staten Island, or c) just plain lying.

It seems like you're trying to fill a void by finding a new romantic relationship. Maybe you can try to fill that void some other way--by really exploring your creative life, traveling, following your career dreams, connecting with wonderful new girlfriends, volunteer work--so that you will have more time to get to know guys before you start pinning hopes onto any of them.

I know lots of people hate this line of thinking, but--there's a reason these seemingly fantastic guys are still single. If you're looking for a long-term, "perfect for you" thing, you'll have to get lucky with some guy just like you by catching him in the three-week-long window between having his wife/long term partner leave him and marrying someone new. Guys like this come along rarely, so it makes sense to be building an empire, curing cancer, saving thousands of abused children, going dancing, or just going to the movies with girlfriends or reading a good book in between meeting them.

posted May 04, 2009 02:42 PM         

Neptune is playing some serious games with my head. I am so confused right now. After the whole lying ordeal, I broke it off with him completely, but then I started to have people tell me the friend who told me all those bad things about the guy, was actually the one lying to me. She had actually dated him 4 yrs ago for only 2 months and he broke up with her and broke her heart. What the heck is going on? I don't know who I can trust anymore, and I don't know who to believe!

taurusvirgoleolady1974, in your relationship, were you the Sun or Neptune person? I am the Sun opposed his Neptune exact. I read that the Neptune person usually deceives the sun in some way to try to be all the sun person wants. Eventually, the mask comes off and the sun is disappointed that the Neptune person is not what they thought. I had an exact neptune/sun conjunction with my ex-husband. I was Neptune, and he said he married me thinking I was one way, but I wasn't the person he thought. I never intentionally decieved him, but I think he projected onto me what he wanted to see.

Katatonic, that's some great intuition you've got there!! What you said,"presuming your friend doesn't want him for herself...i don't mean to be negative but when i was younger i had some pretty devious girlfriends!" I'm starting to believe maybe some of my friends are not as true as they seem. Good call there!

Lucia, I understand how it can seem like I'm trying to fill a void with these guys, but it's actually not the case. I've been trying to take these two years and work on myself. I've joined activites, read many spiritual books, took up meditation, and tried to improve myself. At the beginning of this year, I started to feel an immense contentment and peace with myself. I sort of "accepted" that maybe romantic love wasn't meant for my life, and put my full attention on my family, work, and friends. I felt okay with myself for the first time in 2 years. At that moment, these men just kind of popped into my life and bring with them all this drama. I don't want drama, but sometimes I feel like it seeks me out.

I've been trying to weed out the people who cause this in my life, including men who are not right for me. Lately, there's been a lot of weeding, adn it looks like I have to do it with my friends as well!

Thanks so much everyone!

posted May 04, 2009 03:44 PM         

neptune is a tricky one. in the composite with my ex boyfriend (we just broke up 2 weeks ago), we have sun conjunct neptune, 1 deg orb. it felt *so* amazing and really-real to both of us. we just flowed and had understanding on all levels that was hard to understand mentally, but it just was. then the last two weeks something felt different and confusing, and he took this to mean that we shouldn't be together, even though he could not define what the confusion WAS, just that he was confused. so here is an example of neptune going both ways. it was like it was too good to be true, so when the confusion set in, to him it meant not-true. i know where his confusion came from, on his behalf, and on mine (his issues, and mine: i was a sleep-deprived, anxious mess for about a month cuzza some personal stuff and was feeling consequently very insecure and not myself at all), but that is the nature of neptune. it's really hard to pin down and make sense of!

i hope everything works out wonderfully for you