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From: formerly cakes of the heart
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posted April 30, 2009 09:46 PM         

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i thought the darn thing was last fall but it's now retrograded within less than a 3 degree orb back toward my saturn, but will not be conjuncting exactly or passing over.

if it is, no wonder my life's fallen apart again recently. crud.

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posted May 03, 2009 12:02 AM         

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does anybody know?

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posted May 03, 2009 11:42 AM         

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Well, since no one has answered your question yet, I will. You have already had your Saturn Return, but since planets often times retrograde back to a certain degree, often times people will experience a plantary return two or even three times. In other words, you get to learn the lessons of Saturn doubly and put them into action more readily (we hope).

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posted May 03, 2009 05:08 PM         

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thanks! i wasn't sure cuz i have heard that the Official Transit is considered the last time the planet makes contact. so i wasn't sure if being only within orb (but not conjuncting) counted or not.

what you said makes a LOT of sense to me as i'm dealing with a lot of pisces SN crap right now (my saturn conjuncts my NN by 6 degrees), and it is at the midpoint, and will be returning to conjuncting my NN shortly.

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posted May 03, 2009 10:22 PM         

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Saturn conjunct NN in Virgo, man that's gotta be tough! I'm on the other end of the spectrum, Jupiter conjunct NN in Virgo; not the easier placement with Drill Master Virgo at the helm, but at least it's a benevolent Sergeant Major! You've got Darth Vadar. GOOD LUCK!

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posted May 03, 2009 10:57 PM         

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haha you think it's THAT bad??

well i will admit i've had a difficult life. i find it's a constant purification, constant reorganizing of priorities. it's also an aspect of lonerism. i'm hoping by the time saturn's back on my NN i'll have it together enough that it will help me rather than throw me back on my butt again!

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posted May 04, 2009 12:45 AM         

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ah, phew.. looks like things may not be so gloom and doom after all. when it first conjuncted my NN i was having the time of my life..

"For purposes of stability, there is nothing better than the conjunction of Saturn and North Node. Both relationships and enterprises begun at this time are likely to be durable and long lasting, and this is especially notable in marriage and professional areas. The individual is willing to take on heavier responsibilities and the added commitments will prove favorable. The Saturn conjunction to the natal North Node is said to be particularly karmic in nature, bringing due rewards for past efforts. There is much truth to this, and it often coincides with terrific upward professional progress, as well as stabilizing influences in general. If Saturn turns retrograde and passes over this point two or three times, these rewards can be expected at each contact. The alternate transit of North Node to Saturn works in a similar fashion. If rewards do not transpire, it may be time to scrutinize one’s previous efforts."

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