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Knowflake Posts: 77
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posted May 06, 2009 09:20 AM
 
So, what is so Grand about the Grand Cross of 2010? Forget 2012 for the moment. From many sources we are told that Earth is heading for a major transformation. Astrology reminiscent of the 1930s. We hear that the change already felt will reach an elevated moment. Next summer we have a constant T-square, at times forming a Cardinal Grand Cross. Aries, Libra,Cancer, Capricorn. The Cardinal Cross is said to lack staying power, that the energies are difficult to focus on. With the oppositions involved being internal, and the outer square representing the collective. The slow movers involved are also retrograde. A delay? Uranus will be conjunct that Jupiter expansion, adding fuel to the fire.As the sun enters Leo in July of 2010, Saturn - while entering Libra - will from a T-cross with Uranus in Aries and Pluto in Capricorn. Saturn and Uranus are each others antagonists: Saturn is conservative and consolidating and is elevated in Libra, the sign that seeks balance between human relations and law, while Uranus brings revolution to the fiery authority of Aries. This incredibly dynamic exact opposition will release it's energy through Pluto's trans formative lens in Capricorn: challenging the status quo in quite a personal way. On the first of August the New Moon will trine The Galactic Centre (26 Sag.) and form a sextile to Neptune and two weeks later complete this Cardinal Cross as she enters Cancer. IP: Logged |
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posted May 06, 2009 09:21 AM
Chiron is poised to enter Pisces. At 29 Aquarius. And will cross this point (back and forth) The lunar nodes are in a cardinal sector as well. And indicate an eclipse. If a New or Full Moon occurs within 5° of a Node, the Eclipse will be Total or Annular. This one is visible around Easter Island. - The Saros Cycle
With the Moon's Nodes regressing one complete revolution once every 18.6 years, it takes about 364.62 days for the Sun to make two successive conjunctions to either Node. For example, if the Sun conjuncts the North Node, it will be about 364.62 days until it conjuncts it again., a time period sometimes referred to as The Eclipse Year. It was discovered by the Chaldean's that after 18 years 11-1/3 days (or 18 years, 10-1/3 days if the interval contained five leap years), the Nodes have prescribed 19 revolutions relative to the Sun/Nodal conjunctions (or 19 Eclipse Years), at which time, the Sun and Moon will have returned to almost exactly the same positions relative to the Nodes. This cycle was christened the Saros, and contains an average of 70 Eclipses. Additionally, think about what's happening during an Eclipse. With the Solar Eclipse, the emotions (Moon), temporarily block, obscure, or get in the way of the light of the Conscious Ego (Sun).  IP: Logged |
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Knowflake Posts: 77
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posted May 06, 2009 09:22 AM
Time to look at some sabiens. ================================================================================================= Chiron
PHASE 330 (AQUARIUS 30°): DEEPLY ROOTED IN THE PAST OF A VERY ANCIENT CULTURE, A SPIRITUAL BROTHERHOOD IN WHICH MANY INDIVIDUAL MINDS ARE MERGED INTO THE GLOWING LIGHT OF A UNANIMOUS CONSCIOUSNESS IS REVEALED TO ONE WHO HAS EMERGED SUCCESSFULLY FROM HIS METAMORPHOSIS.
KEYNOTE: The ability for the person with an open mind and a deep feeling for self-transcendence to come in contact with higher forms of existence.
The originally recorded Sabien symbol stated: "The field of Ardath in bloom," which referred to a scene in an occult novel by Marie Corelli centering upon ancient Babylon. The reference may well have been a "blind" inasmuch as Marc Jones has stressed his inner contact with a Brotherhood with Babylonian (or "Sabian") roots. A spiritual Brotherhood constitutes a state of "multi-unity" — i.e. a multiplicity of individuals, if one thinks of the paths they trod to reach their final metamorphosis, but a unity of consciousness and "Soul" —thus unanimity ("anima" meaning Soul). In this spiritual Whole each unit is a recognizable "form" or entity if one looks at it with the eyes of personality; but when seen through a unified spiritual vision or from a distance, the Whole appears to be one single area of radiant light. Similarly, when studied by the modern physicist, light can be apprehended either as a stream of identifiable particles (photons) or as one continuous wave. Whether it is seen as one or the other depends on the point of view.
This is the last and culminating symbol of Scene Twenty-two of the cyclic ritual. This is indeed a fitting symbol, as the number 22 symbolizes all forms of mastery. At any level, it is a symbol of spiritual group fulfillment — of CONSCIOUS TOTALITY OF BEING.========================================================== NN-PHASE 282 (CAPRICORN 12°): AN ILLUSTRATED LECTURE ON NATURAL SCIENCE REVEALS LITTLE-KNOWN ASPECTS OF LIFE.
KEYNOTE: The ability to explore unfamiliar realms and discover the laws underlying the complex processes of nature.
The aristocratic garden of the preceding phase has become the laboratory and lecture hall of a modern college. The emphasis here is on the acquisition of extensive knowledge, the satisfaction of intellectual curiosity. Nevertheless, there is also an aristocracy of science: this is the modern type. Its use of acquired knowledge can pose as many problems as the use of hereditary aristocratic wealth. But it is man's essential function to become fully conscious of all life forms and processes on this earth. Mankind is the conscious mind of the planet.
At this second stage the intellectual search for empirical knowledge contrasts with the display attendant to the wealth and culture of an elite. Civilization is founded on an ever-extended capitalization on knowledge and use of technology. It features EXPLOITATION preeminently at all levels. ================================= SN-PHASE 102 (CANCER 12°): A CHINESE WOMAN NURSING A BABY WHOSE AURA REVEALS HIM TO BE THE REINCARNATION OF A GREAT TEACHER.
KEYNOTE: The revelation of latent worth in an experience once it is seen in its deeper meaning.
In contrast to the “clown” symbol, which shows us man’s capacity to criticize and laugh at his superficial mannerisms and automatic habits or gestures, we now have a symbol which demands that we look beyond common appearances and try to discover the “occult” (i.e. hidden) character of every person and every experience. This symbol has been unduly glamorized: there is no particular reference here to an avatar or messiah, except in the sense that every man is potentially the avatar or manifestation of a Soul that has a definite and relatively unique function in the vast field of activity we call the Earth. To discover this occult potential of being, one requires a deeper or higher “vision,” a holistic perception — which is usually, but not always justifiably, called clairvoyance. The caricaturist also has to develop a special kind of “seeing” to enable him to extract the salient features of an outer personality or of a face. He picks out the most characteristic parts of a whole; the true clairvoyant perceives the essential meaning (or “message” and function) of the whole.
The contrast between the first and second symbols of this twenty-first five-fold sequence is indeed very significant. There may be no particular meaning in the fact that the nursing woman in this symbol is Chinese. Perhaps the psychic who visualized the scene may have mistaken a Tibetan for a Chinese woman, and unconsciously thought of the rather familiar process through which a new Dalai Lama, or other great Lamas, are searched for among newborn babies. The Keyword is REVELATIONIP: Logged |
carl
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posted May 06, 2009 09:24 AM
I don't believe any of this grand change jargon, at least the change often associated with new age type stuff. There will be a change, but not the change that is spoken about so widely.IP: Logged |
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Knowflake Posts: 77
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posted May 06, 2009 09:36 AM
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#83982 Crantor is a centaur. Discovery Position in 2002 was 7.26 Scorpio-Rx, (Zane stein) he crosses the orbit of Uranus. though not in the chart he is on the GC at 27 Sag Crantor was one of the Lapiths attending Pirithous' wedding. Centaur Demoleon killed him. see The Metamorphoses
(Demoleon - the lion of the people) see The Centaur Research Project Another Crantor, a Greek philosopher was a pupil of Plato. He is said to have visited Egypt, where local priests showed him the scrolls with the story of Atlantis. Crantor was in Capricorn from 1925-1930. #19521 Chaos is a Cubewano. Discovery Position in 1998 -26° Taurus 34' Rx. He crosses the orbit of Pluto. In Greek mythology, Chaos is the original state of existence from which the first gods appeared. Chaos was the dark void of space out of which the first objects of existence appeared. These first beings, depicted as children of Chaos alone, were Gaia (the Earth), Tartarus (the Underworld), Nyx (the darkness of the night), Erebus (the darkness of the Underworld), and Bobo (sexual love).
#916 America- Interestingly this Minor Planet was discovered on Aug 7 1915. Discovery Position 2' Pisces 51' Rx. # 886 Washingtonia- Minor Planet discovered in Washington D.C. Nov. 1917. Discovery Position 13' Taurus 4' Rx #1247 Memoria- a name i use quite literally. D-Date 8-30-32. Position - 18' Pisces 26'. Of interest, TN is tightly conjunct at 17 Pisces. Venus, Mars, and Pluto are all in Cancer. At 21, 16, 22 degrees respectively. #2254 Requiem- Main-belt asteroid- 1. Requiem Roman Catholic Church
a. A mass for a deceased person.
b. A musical composition for such a mass.
2. A hymn, composition, or service for the soul of the dead. D-Date 8-19-77. D-Position 8'Aries 0' Rx #60 Echo- I use this 'Nymph' quite frequently, issues with location and relevance with the past are often highlighted..The Greek nymphs were spirits invariably bound to places. Echo was an Oread or Mountain Nymph, loved the sound of her own voice. Of interest she fell for Narcissus who was in love with his own image. Zeus used her talent to distract his wife Hera, while he cheated on her. Hera of course retaliated by rendering her Mute, except in repetition of another's shouted words. D-Date 9-14-1860. D-Position 16'Pisces 29' Rx. Of Interest in the Discovery chart Mercury opposes Echo, at 14 Virgo. #1862 Apollo-Martha Lang Westcott:
APOLLO: Being a slow learner—attraction of recurrent and familiar crises; going against the odds; “banging your head against a brick wall;” provocation; doing it again and again. A Venus crosser, and A Mars crosser asteroid. D-Date 4-24-1932. Discovery Position 1' Scorpio 42'. Westcott is on to something, as Apollo opposes Sun at 3' Taurus 36' H48 Kronos- a hypothetical of the Uranian school has been characterized as a super Saturn, concentrated is the word I use. h41 Hades has many ancient characterizations that are quite malefic in tone and content. I tend to look at it with a wary, yet thoughtful eye. I think of Hades as Pluto like. In you have to get down, to go up. I think of it as an underbelly, that when used constructively might actually be helpful by increasing awareness of the nooks and cranny's. Knowing the devils inside is not necessarily embrasure. references: Dwight Ennis, lunnarliving, Zane Stein, NASA, Kirsti Melto, Eric Francis, Martha Westcott, Moses Siregar, To my mind Pluto is the wild card here. At the point of the isosceles triangle. Pluto's role is ever difficult to define, and here might play the role of negotiator. Pluto as negotiator? With the tensions involved and the socio-political unrest too long ignored, we are all being asked to dig deep, and then deeper, Change is already fact, direction is not. Pluto in Capricorn just might allow for the needed dynamics of constructive, logical, concrete, progress. Dispassionate in a certain way. Able to stand back and assess. The NN in Capricorn is a superior aide de camp. Chiron moving into empathetic Pisces... balm to the laser surgery required of us by this dynamic? Chiron as Florence Nightingale? Nightingale had NN at 29 Pisces Conj Pluto 28 Pisces 7H.IP: Logged |
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Knowflake Posts: 77
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posted May 06, 2009 09:37 AM
ok carlIP: Logged |
Coffee
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posted May 06, 2009 09:43 AM
Pluto, Sun, Jupiter and Saturn in the C-Cross.
Same date-ish, but when Sun is at 7 Cancer, I think the cross is exact.Hope not many have a Cancer 7 Sun. I only have Sun, Saturn, Jupiter, Mercury, Pluto in that Libra/Virgo area, with Moon in Mid Aries. My Sun at 2 Libra (7th ruler) will take the brunt of the hit. IP: Logged |
Coffee
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posted May 06, 2009 09:48 AM
Carl, the planets transiting the sky in that pattern will likely have some effect, not sure what. What you need to watch out for are them transiting planets aspecting something in a natal chart. Not just the natal of a person, but a country too.That will be pretty bad! Worse aspect - square - but times it by 4. You cant measure it on the Richter Scale because it is too bad. IP: Logged |
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posted May 06, 2009 09:48 AM
Thanks Coffee. I looked at an ephemeris, that's June 30. And the astrology, l@@ks like I need another chart. I was using lunationsIP: Logged |
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posted May 06, 2009 09:53 AM
Thanks Node!IP: Logged |
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posted May 06, 2009 10:01 AM
Great info Node! I suppose we can look to what was going on each time Saturn opposed Uranus to see what issues might come to a head on their last opposition...? I wasnt aware of the rest of these aspects so thanks.  IP: Logged |
carl
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posted May 06, 2009 10:09 AM
I think that is what I am saying Coffee.
My only point is, this new age trendy bs and 2012 or anything else is overblown and kind of junk.
Change, but not at all what people to expect Yes node, OKAY!!!! IP: Logged |
Coffee
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posted May 06, 2009 10:15 AM
Carl, same here. I just leave it to the people who go for all rubbish. If something happens I will deal with it at the time. Hopefully  I hate all the...conciousness, one somethings, change of conciousness, peace, love and light filth. Cant stand it.
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posted May 06, 2009 10:51 AM
Interesting.. but I just noticed that I'll have my Sun conjunct Uranus, squared by Pluto and opposed by Saturn.. ;_;IP: Logged |
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posted May 06, 2009 11:09 AM
Using Aries point on the 29th- 
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posted May 06, 2009 12:11 PM
well this one is kinda personal for me, my uranus (ruling planet) is in early cancer, and my daughter's sun early aries.the thing about grand crosses is that while they are multiple squares, they are also a full (4-sided) square, which is quite a stable structure. so they can create great stability (or stagnation) at the same time that the individual squares are creating pressure for change! could be very interesting(now there's an understatment). the 4th point, cancer, will not be in the picture for very long so i wonder what will be created when it is...? IP: Logged |
Glaucus
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posted May 06, 2009 12:35 PM
I am into consciousness. I go to a Unity/New Thought Church,and being involved in consciousness is a big part of the philosophy of the church. Lee Carroll said that 2012 means nothing. That the shift of consciousness occurred in 1998.
I want to grow in consciousness for I want to evolve and be a better person which will help me along in my path as a neurodiversity advocate,healer,and astrologer.
July 2010 seems like a very significant month for me
by that time, I will be a member of Spiritual Life Center for over 1 year year
I checked the 15th of July
transits to my chart Transiting Jupiter in my 7th - expansion,optimism in relationships
sextile Saturn in 9th - structure in long journeys (mental,physical
sesquiquadrate Mercury in 3rd - communications,thinking
semisextile Moon in 6th - emotions,women in routine
square Sun/Moon midpoint - relationships,marriage Transiting Saturn in my 1st - structuring my personality,personal responsibility
conjunct my Pluto in 1st - structuring personal power
parallel my Sedna in 8th - "otherworldliness" in shared resources Transiting Uranus in my 7th - changes in relationships
oppose my Pluto in Libra in 1st - personal power Transiting Neptune in my 6th - dissolution,inspiration in routine
parallel my Sun in 2nd - self expression,ego,vitality in security
conjunct my Mars in 6th - passion,action in routine Transiting Chiron in my 6th - healing
sesquiquadrate my Uranus in 2nd - changes in what I value
parallel my Uranus
(bilevel Chiron-Uranus transit....very significant)
contraparallel Chiron in my 8th - healing in shared resources
Transiting Pluto in my 4th - intensifying,transforming in the domestic environment
sextile my Moon in 6th - emotions,women in routine,health
semisquare my Mercury in 3rd - communications,thinking
parallel my Mercury
(bilevel Pluto-Mercury transit....very significant)
parallel my Venus in 3rd - love,relationships in communications
parallel my Neptune in 3rd - inspiration,idealism in communications
contraparallel my Saturn in 9th - structure in long journeys (mental,physical)
square my Pluto in 1st - personal power
trine my Sedna in 8th - "otherworldliness" in shared resources
conjunct Sun/Moon midpoint - marriage,relationships
Transiting Sedna in my 9th - "otherworldliness" in long journeys (mental,physical)
oppose my Venus in 3rd - love,values in communications
parallel my Chiron in 8th - healing,wounds in shared resources
parallel my Ascendant - self,appearance
Raymond
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Knowflake Posts: 77
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posted May 08, 2009 09:38 AM
Hi Raymond: Question, could you talk a little about about the bilevel planets you mentioned? I have quite a few triple transits for July, haven't looked into m/p's or prog's... Magi uses bi levels here => http://www.magiastrology.com/iraq.htm - a look at the day Hitler became chancellor, and the natal of Iraq. Also I was wondering what is to be said about the 4 Rx. Four retrogrades happen in the natal 12.7% of the time, according to John McCormick,
something John often found in the charts of writers, and others who seek private ways to express themselves, and are often drawn to the more solitary professions. But his study group was small, and he died, no one continued the research to my knowledge. The outers go Rx quite a bit, but the 4 together means something else here?
'allo T- here is a Saturn-Uranus opposition (#5 of 5) for July 2010--  Kat this is quite personal for many, and with the planetary geometry involved pretty much everyone. quote:
Kat: i wonder what will be created when it is...
me too
and in general I guess my opening statement in the thread was badly worded. My purpose was to try and examine the position's of the planets using the language of astrology to figure out the *what* and the *how*-- And perhaps that change is fact. But direction is not. With all the fingers in our collective pie, global concerns. etc
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posted May 08, 2009 09:59 AM
planets bilevel means that the two planets aspected in ecliptic longitude are also aspected in the equatorial latitude aka declinations. two planets that are in aspect by both longitude and declination are stronger than just two planets that are in aspect by just longitude.You can say that the declination aspects are enhancement aspects that add more power to the longitude aspects. My mother has Sun sextile and parallel Pluto,and so they are in a bilevel. Planets that are conjunct and parallel are also known as occultations. I have Mercury conjunct and parallel Venus,and so I have them in an occultation. Planets that are oppose and contraparallel are also occultations. I have Saturn oppose and contraparallel Neptune,and so I have them in an occultation.
The more retrograde planets a person has, the more likely they will be introspective.
Raymond
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posted May 08, 2009 10:22 AM
Thanks for the reply Raymond.. quote:
You can say that the declination aspects are enhancement aspects
yes, I understand that this highlights, as well as enhances the energies involved. Let's use your two...Bilevel Mercury-Pluto transit, and Chiron-Uranus transit. Yes, they are significant, could you list the natal and the transit, and break it down for me in how you see it? Appreciate it. * edit...and the McCormick study concentrated on Rx in the Natal, do you feel that these 4 represent internalization? I like that. I was thinking delay....as I said earlier in the thread. IP: Logged |
belgz
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posted May 08, 2009 10:34 AM
lol you guys make it out as if something is going to happen over night and change the world forever.. Obama is a sign of a massive change!
These arnt going to be major changes.. I mean what happened so big in 1930 with the last saturn uranus opposition?
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posted May 08, 2009 10:41 AM
for the third time in this thread...change is already fact, the direction it will take is not.IP: Logged |
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posted May 08, 2009 11:53 AM
belgz yes the world is still here but ask anyone who was around before it, it has never been the same since the war.IP: Logged |
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posted May 10, 2009 01:35 AM
Well we will all deal with it accordingly.There is a calander an old anceint mayans calander that ends in the year 2012. We got into this very depressing topic about 4 months ago and the old ancient poeple i cant remember there names but they have a calander and they predicted the end of the world would come in 2012 december 21st or something. There is also a planet that will come very close to the earth and will cause the earths core to shift apparently and it will cause some very big disasters in the world. Apparently the magnetic force of this planet will shift the north pole and south pole. In school it was called planet X now they gave it a name its called NIBIRU. Its predicted to come around 2012 and it all coincides with this calander and astrological other placements etc. BUT!!! Many people have particiapted in mass suicides beleiving the end of the world was actually coming and they all killed themselves thinking it was so real. I freaked out the more i read about it but now im over it. Bad transits havnt killed anyone yet!
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posted May 10, 2009 03:09 AM
As an Aries with Capricorn Asc, I say ouch. Luckily they're not in the first decanate. But Moon and Neptune are @29 Sagittarius, Nodes 28 Gem/Sag, being squared by both sides. 
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