posted May 08, 2009 08:47 PM         

Would Saturn hitting that point be seen as very karmic? I would assume so given the karmic nature of both the planet as well as the degree.

posted May 08, 2009 09:17 PM         

The planet is about to move into the next sign, some might say the next house. Look at the house and sign it will move into.

posted May 08, 2009 09:42 PM         

This is my boyfriend's chart.

Well, both Saturn and Mars will be leaving Cancer and moving into Leo. Pr. Mars is currently at 29'20 Cancer and Pr. Saturn is at 28'04 Cancer so it has a ways to go.

I have found in natal charts that a 12th house, retrograde or 29th degree Mars can often point to someone who is working through issues of anger and/or aggression - or experienced that as a child.

Interestingly, it's me who is working through that stuff right now so I wondered if, since it's in his 7th house, it might signify me sorting through that stuff?

posted May 09, 2009 04:18 AM         

I would love to post a chart, but I am actually on my boyfriend's computer and when I tried to post a chart last week, it simply would not work. I cannot seem to save any chart. I tried going through photobucket and one other online photo-uploading site and for some reason, this computer will not upload jpgs as such.

Sorry. I'm very visual too.

What made you change your mind about progressions?

posted May 09, 2009 04:28 AM         

the heliocentric Chiron Nodes are in 29 degrees Libra/Aries.

planets,points in 29 degrees might be significant because they are aspecting the Chiron Nodes, and so they deal with themes of wounds,pain,healing,teaching,and being a maverick.

planets,points in 29 degrees of Libra,Aries,Cancer,and Capricorn could be rather difficult and be rather challenging to the point that it could feel very karmic

planets,points in 29 degrees Gemini,Leo,Sagittarius,and Aquarius could be easily worked with.

As you see, I am rather skeptical of the significance of 29 degrees....especially when it's not even 29 degrees in either the constellation zodiac nor Sidereal Zodiac which is a zodiac that I don't accept because it's not the same as the actual constellation zodiac. I accept the tropical zodiac to some extent because it's a northern hemisphere season based zodiac. Of course, I don't believe in using it for people born in southern hemisphere like Australians.

posted May 09, 2009 04:34 AM         

I use it to check the nodes of asteroids
http://www.megadelfi.com/~jonathan/pos/

posted May 09, 2009 04:44 AM         

I also dismissed progressions for the longest time, but I couldn`t help but being completely fascinated with them after having read "When stars collide".

I also dismissed solar arc directions for a long time, but was pretty flabbergasted when I realized that the exact year when I made a big leap towards spiritual thoughts and development to the point that I got lost in a dreamworld, solar Arc Neptune was exactly conjunct my natal Sun and Mercury.
(I guess there would have been accompanying and triggering transits at the same time, too).

Now, this year I also have Mars on 29 Sagittarius and by summer it will have moved into Capricorn.
I already can feel an increased fascination with capricorns, BUT to be honest that has been building for some years now and probably has more to do with the progressed ASC having moved into Capricorn.

posted May 09, 2009 04:47 AM         

So with Mars at 29 Cancer then my boyfriend would maybe be moving into a more Leonine way of behaving? Do I have a world of drama to look forward to??

posted May 09, 2009 05:08 AM         

What I like about solar arcs is that they are 1 degree for 1 year, and so they can be good for timing events. Using 30 minutes of arc applying (6th months before) and 30 minutes of arc separating (6 months after), and so a total of 1 degree (1 year total).

I definitely look at the progressed Ascendant,Midheaven,Sun,Moon,Mercury,Venus,and Mars. I don't look at the rest.

my Moon has recently progressed in Leo,and it is sextiling natal Pluto in Libra in 1st. It is currently in 0'34 Leo in my 11th house. I feel the opportunity to transform my emotional life to make friends and be part of a commmunity and social groups.
Transiting Pluto is sextile natal Moon in Pisces in 6th with 10 minutes of arc separating. Of course, I have Moon sextile Pluto in numerous lunar returns. Even my current solar return has Moon in Libra in 3rd sextile Pluto in Sagittarius in 4th with 14 minutes of arc.

My progressed Moon entered Leo on the day that I started the weekly A New Earth (Eckhart Tolle) class at the interfaith unity church that I go to. I feel that reading the book,A New Earth is helping me a lot. I believe that it will help me be more confident and outgoing.

I will become a member of the church on May 31st, and progressed Moon in Leo in my 11th is sextile natal 3rd house ruler Pluto in Libra 1st with 21 minutes of arc separating, trine natal 7th house ruler Neptune in Sagittarius in 3rd with 35 minutes of arc separating.

my natal Sedna is being aspected through secondary progressions:
square progressed Moon with 52 minutes of arc
semisquare progressed Mars with 8 minutes of arc
sesquiquadrate progressed Jupiter with 36 minutes of arc

also transits:
square Lunar Nodes with 30 minutes of arc,and they are stationary on that day!

therefore my progressed Moon = Mars = Jupiter = Natal Sedna will be triggered by the stationary lunar nodes!

Transiting Mars will be conjunct natal Sedna with 2'11 orb on that day. A significant event could happen a day or two afterwards.

yes......secondary progressions are significant!

progressed Sun has been squaring my Ascendant,and that indicates a highly significant development.

posted May 09, 2009 05:38 AM         

I can't say it's been a pleasant experience, nor can I say that I am looking forward to Pluto's 3rd time opposing my Sun/Venus. (But I will be looking forward to the transit being over. )

But yeah, I do get what you mean. Do you not think though that a progressed chart's planets aspecting your own planets can indicate anything?

posted May 09, 2009 05:40 AM         

Sometimes progressions may just add a minor modification, sometimes they may actually be felt very intensely.

Example:

Natally I have Moon in Aquarius; progressed Moon in Taurus will not MAKE me a Taurus-Moon. The Aquarianness is still there, but it gets modified.
Since my Moon natally is also in the 2nd house, the houseplacemtn may be a bit emphasised.

Natally my Venus is in Capricorn, my progressee Venus is in Aquarius.
I`m STILL controlled, careful, striving for lasting relationships if striving for them at all, BUT I do all t hat in a more open way. It`s like I added that Aquarian nuance to my Capricorn-based Venus.

In progressed synastry it seems that those aspects are more intensely felt as the natal ones though. Probably because they got in the "spotlight" for a certain time, while the natal aspects are providing an underlying basis.

posted May 09, 2009 05:45 AM         

1) Secondary Progressions.
The outer and sometimes middle planets hardly even move a degree after 50 years, which makes it a little hard to take seriously. I just ignore them! (for now)

2) Solar Arcs.
Each planet from your natal moves 1 degree a year. I dont know why it is that way, but much better as the planets actually MOVE.
I do take note of SAs whenever I look.

So no, dont really take note of progressions, I would rather look at Solar arcs.

posted May 09, 2009 05:50 AM         

Ha!

I agree with what you've said here about natal charts being the foundation for the growth (progressions) to take place. I think for me, my progressed Moon in Cancer was probably intensified by the fact that when it entered Cancer it said "hey ho!" when it encountered my Sun and Venus at 2 and 3 degrees.

Adding to that was the fact that my progressed ASC was conjuncting it. It was a true Cancerian-fest. I'm glad that it's over now, but I sure felt it.

posted May 09, 2009 05:56 AM         

Well, I definitely don't look at the outer planets but then they will never conjunct any of my personal planets anyhow. I'm referring more to Sun -> Mars.

As for Pluto square your Sun, I have that aspect natally as well as the Pluto/Venus square. I wonder about that as well - if you have a hard aspect like that natally, does it somehow prepare you for another of it's kind?

posted May 09, 2009 05:56 AM         

I had the same thoughts as you have, but was really fascinated with that book on progressed synastry, which stated that at the beginning of a new relationship there will be certain progressions. And he applied that to many charts.

Making my own research I have found that to be true.

Now I want to investigate a little bit, if maybe there were these or similiar progressions present, too, when using Solar Arc.
But I fear I won`t have the patience to investigate over thousands charts. lol

You can always find other reasons for the beginning of a relationship; but I have hardly ever seen a comparable consistent pattern like this.

So I am sort of convinced. But of course you can`t really use Jupiter, Saturn (well, sometimes) and definitely not Uranus, Neptune and Pluto, as they hardly move.

Yet, I thought it was interesting, that this year my progressed Pluto changed directions and started moving retrograde and that the Nodes changed direction, too, now being direct.

That was too much to read for you now, wasn`t it?

Hmm in a nutshell:

- certain patterns consistently emerge in the synastric progressions at the beginning of a new relationship