posted May 21, 2009 01:53 PM         

Transits to composite is enough and normally works.

A meeting is two people joining together. That is two charts meeting as one.

posted May 22, 2009 02:10 AM         

For instance... The meeting chart from the guy I met last summer had:

Mars and Saturn in the 1st opposing Neptune, Chiron, and NN in the 7th.- Balancing egos/personal agendas with compassion and inner wounds on the part of both parties. Ultimately something we both needed to work towards. Incredibly karmic relationship. Our egos are really what ended up pulling it apart though. It seemed like it was a battle between our independence and our need to connect on a deeper level with another person.

Pluto in the 5th opposing Sun/Venus conjunct in the 11th squaring Uranus in the 8th (loosely): Romantically intense, but with a light-hearted platonic aspect to it. It was actually very erratic. I was only planning on it being short lived. I never had any intention of getting as involved as I did. Interestingly, we had a short time together, split on a mutual decision, and then we ran into each other coincidentally about a month later and began again for another short time. Interestingly, the 2nd time that we split apart, it was partially due to something a friend of mine said (11th house). They both ended up putting me in the middle of their little dispute (11th and 5th).

Moon in the 6th: Emotional work. Both of us really had to work on expressing our emotions in the correct manner to get our point across. It was a struggle to do so though.

I also compared these placements to my own chart of course, which was just a transit chart. TSaturn was conjuncting my Sun and Venus. TPluto was trining my Venus. TSun and TVenus sextiling my Sun and Venus and trining my Saturn and Pluto. TUranus squared my NN in the 7th. TMoon sextiled my Mars and Moon.

You'd think this would make me run for the hills, but instead it did the opposite.

I never knew his chart at all because the most I got out of him was that he was a Cancer. Never got a birth date or time. I found the meeting chart to be very helpful in lieu of that. To me, it's simply what both parties are working toward and the circumstances they are working under.

Composites can do the same thing, however, I think that they should only be used when a relationship is really serious. In this case, the relationship wasn't serious, but it WAS significant in terms of it's effect on both people.

Ultimately, transits to both charts are probably still the best way to go, but I do actually find the meeting chart valuable, especially looking at the house placement on the where the transiting planets fall when the relationship begins.

Hope that helps...

posted May 23, 2009 10:07 PM         

ASC in Sagittarius - and its ruler Jupiter right on the cusp of the 3rd house. (Indeed, it was a very chatty, talkative, entertaining and funny date.)

In the 4th house there's a stellium of Moon, Venus and Mars (11°-21° Aries) - which speaks of a heavy dose of emotion, romantically and sexually, I'd say...(?) BUT: In the 4th house! (Isn't that the "base" of a chart...?) Venus-Mars-Moon are all trining the ASC!

The Sun is cj. Mercury in 6th house, widely conjunct (5°) to the DSC or: opposite the ASC.

Another thing that struck me: Juno is cj. Uranus (by 8°) in 3rd house - opposed by Saturn from the 9th!

Anyway: The date was hilarious, funny, witty, entertaining, relaxed, not very "flirtatious" on the outset, but it grew so over the evening ... But nothing seems to grow from it. Hm. The impression I have: He lost interest (in me, or: meeting up again.)

posted May 24, 2009 04:10 PM         

Meanwhile, I came to know his birthdate, but not his birthtime. I don't wanna make-up a "fantasy-chart" for him, I am not sure whether his Moon is really in Cancer or in early Leo, for example ... But these placements (in his natal chart) are for sure:

His Sun in Cancer
His Mercury & Mars in Leo
His Venus in Gemini
His Juno in Libra
His Eros in Pisces

Here's our "1st meeting chart":

And here's my own natal with the transits of that specific date-night. Before interpretation ... I must say: My social life is very (!) busy these days, and - miraculously - there's a handful of guys obvioulsy "interested" in me, simultaneously (including my Psycho-Ex). So: This date is not the only "thing" that is currently going on, in my life. BUT: The guy I met on this specific date, he's definitely the one I am interested in myself! (Whereas the other charming men ... the attraction is more or less one-sided, in their cases).

posted May 24, 2009 04:18 PM         

Destinn/Part of Fortune/Amor
Juno/Cupid/Venus
Destinn/Sun/Valentine
Moon/Venus/Juno

Is it true that the first meeting chart is supposed to show the "essence" of the relationship?

posted May 27, 2009 10:47 PM         

What I do see in the 1st meeting chart is:

Moon, Venus, Mars in the 4th: You were probably very comfortable emotionally with each other when you first met. It was like being "home." That will be a big portion of the "atmosphere" surrounding the relationship I think.

It might counterbalance the fact that the Sun and Mercury are in the 6th, making communication and the expression of the true self a bit difficult for you both. Mercury is also retro in this house.

The Mercury/Sun combo also squares Neptune in the 2nd. I'd be wary about one of you lying about who you truly are to either make yourself look better to the other person or to make one of you want to build up the ego or self-worth of the other. Neptune can also have to do with compassion and spiritual love, but with regards to relationships, I don't overlook Neptune with regards to lying or over-romanticizing the other person, because unfortunately, it happens more often than not in dating relationships. I hope though, that you aren't dating this guy for his money (or vice versa), because he might be misleading you about his income. Could be that he is the opposite though, and he has a lot of money, which is nice on the one hand, but may cause you to over-romanticize him and put up with more than you should.

The fact that Jupiter is in that little Neptune/Chiron/Jupiter trifecta might help though. It might ease the intensity of the feelings that comes along with the Chiron in the 2nd. You'll feel like you can see each other clearly and may feel that it's your duty to help each other heal wounds around self-worth.

Pluto is in the 1st, meaning that there is an intense sexual pull to this relationship. You were probably magnetically attracted to each other from the beginning, and it was pretty evident. I know I said I don't deal with asteroids, but I do know a bit about them... In this chart there is Amor, Valentine, and the Vertex in the 8th house, reinforcing the intimate attraction and perhaps a sense of fatedness to the attraction.

NN is in the 2nd house, again, issues with self-worth and/or making money. This is what you both are working towards. Perhaps if you pool your resources you'll both be very wealthy... Or maybe you could go in on a business venture together.

Saturn is in the 9th, suggesting that you both might have problems with the other person's spirituality or religion. This can actually be a very big block for some couples. Could be that someone is in school (college, grad school) and that might leave little time for a serious relationship.

I think the main theme I see in this is that you both could be incredibly great at helping each other be the best people you can be, provided that you don't lie to each other about who you really are. It definitely has the potential to be emotionally comfortable and you will feel very connected intimately.

I hesitate to say that it will be the most romantic relationship. There's no 5th or 7th house aspects. However, I can say from experience that the 5th and 7th house aspects in the 1st meeting chart don't always make for a lasting relationship.