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belgz
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posted June 03, 2009 05:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
Horary question!

Today the most unusual thing happened. I went to use my credit cards today and 2 banks blocked my credit cards and wont give me any information. Im worried im in trouble for something but i have no idea!!

I asked a question if i am in trouble with the police? to do with this bank matter?

Commonwealth bank of australia claimed they did a random audit but why would they block my hsbc card the bank i work for?


Here is the chart.. I go to europe in 3 days!!


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Lara
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posted June 03, 2009 05:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
I don't know but I don't like Saturn on MC and Pluto on AC that's for sure

Saturn being querents ruler on career line.

Hope everything is ok for you

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Astra
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posted June 03, 2009 07:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message
Belgz,

I'm sorry to hear about your situation! I know it's scary and frustrating.

It's very weird that the banks wouldn't tell you why they're blocking your credit card. It sounds like a bank matter to me.

Sometimes, banks block credit cards if you put too much money on them. For example, let's say I used a credit card to buy a $50.00 sweater. I also knew that I wanted to buy a new $2000 computer the next day, so I decided to just pay for both items at once even though at the time of payment, I only owed $50.00. Banks block credit cards when there are suspicious transactions.

Go to the bank in person and calmly explain your situation and that you're traveling soon, so you need your credit cards. You have the right to know why they blocked your credit cards. Assuming you don't have any outstanding late payments, they should hopefully be understanding.

Good luck and I hope you have a happy birthday (try to, anyway)!

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belgz
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posted June 03, 2009 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
I work for hsbc bank and i recently 2 days ago went to my grandmas account and took out 35 thousand and put it in my own account. The next day both of the accounts including my grandmas were blocked.

I asked them if that was it and they said the did not have to disclose anythng to me.

Work told me NOT to come into work and to just go and enjoy my trip overseas. I know shes lying!


But the thing is i put the large amount of money in my savings account. They blocked my credit card initially and then they blocked my savings account later that today.

I feel sick in the stomache. I dont even like this horary chart i wish i knew what it meant..

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jwhop
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posted June 03, 2009 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
As a bank employee, would you think it a "normal transaction" to take 35 grand out of a relatives account and put it in your own account?

Perhaps the bank is attempting to check to see if this was an "authorized transfer".

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Glaucus
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posted June 03, 2009 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message

I was thinking the same thing as jwhop.


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Geocosmic* Valentine
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posted June 03, 2009 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic* Valentine     Edit/Delete Message
Have you called your credit card company?

Have you called a lawyer?

Did you speak to your grandmother?

I've been in a situation where my bank account was seized but here in the U.S. when something like that happens you can prove who you are by using your drivers license/non-driver I.D. plus your Social Security number. I understand that in this day and age they have to be careful of identity theft but I think that someone owes you some kind of explaination.

If you have nothing to hide and everything is on the up and up, I would contact the police or a lawyer to figure out what's going on. That's too much money at a crucial time for you, when you're about to travel overseas.

That might even be part of it. A large amount of money transfered to your account and then you're leaving the country. I really hope everything works out.

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katatonic
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posted June 03, 2009 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
they probably have some automatic block set up for large transfers of money especially the atypical ones...looking out for money-laundering, terrorists, etc is a common explanation these days and maybe they aren't explaining for security reasons...?

as to the horary isn't 3 degrees "too early to tell"? i know it's almost 4 degrees but still...hope it gets sorted soon!!

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Astra
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posted June 03, 2009 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, 35,000 is a lot of money and I would be suspicious, too. Even when I took out 5000 to buy a car, I had to do a lot of explaining. Call the police and have them deal with this if this transaction is truly innocent. Also, bring your grandmother along as well. She needs to say that she authorized this transaction. As long as your grandmother has no problem with you taking 35,000 out of her account and transferring it to yours, then the bank can't really say anything about it.

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Lara
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posted June 03, 2009 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Well there's your answer. They think it's fraud.
Pluto on AC in 12th.
You on MC career.

You need to ring the police and explain with your grandmother present.
You did nothing wrong although as people have pointed out, IRS not an everyday occurrence and therefore they are investigating or Pluto is trying to stitch you up.

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belgz
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posted June 03, 2009 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
Shes overseas in turkey at the moment and shes not coming back till september.. She knows i took the money out because i put the money in my account so i can control funds and pay bills through internet banking while we were both gone.

I also put the money in my account because i am staff i dont pay international transfer fees and i dont pay exchange rate fees and commission.

But why would 2 banks interact with each other? Why would they stop my secondary card for her credit card account as well.

Why is work insisting i dont come into work tomorrow?

Im worried i have uranus on my DC exact now and saturn in 12th.

Im going overseas now with no money and my grandma is over there and she has no idea yet her accounts have been stopped. I have no explanation to give her either.

BAnks dont give out information to customers when its a compliance issue eg money laundering. I think someone has done this delieberately to get me in trouble. I just cant think of anything else. MY minds doing 100 mph

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Diana
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posted June 03, 2009 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
All that money, with grandmom in Turkey...is that where you're going? They may think it's terrorist related. Gotta love all the freedoms and privacy being taken away from us, huh?

Call a lawyer and see what they can do for you. If it were me, I wouldn't speak about the matter to anyone without counsel.

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Lara
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posted June 03, 2009 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Belgz

I'm worried for you. Pluto is right on your back as it were and notice Pluto in it's own house?
It's strong.

Call a lawyer immediately and tell them exactly what happened and then delete parts of this thread with names and amounts in it

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katatonic
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posted June 03, 2009 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
shades of kafka...!! hope it sorts in time for your vacs..and don't forget the asc degree is early.

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MyVirgoMask
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posted June 03, 2009 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
There's no need to hit the panic button and fan the flames of worry here yet!!

First off, like Kat says, at 3 degrees it's too early to tell what's going on. That means more info is going to be revealed.

Two, the chart's moon is via combusta (from 15 degrees of Libra to 15 degrees of Scorpio is via combusta).

Three, her question is whether she's in trouble with the police. She's done nothing wrong. Banks freak out easily. When I spend any money all of a sudden I sometimes get calls from my bank to make sure there's not weird activity. So my feeling here is that it's really too soon to tell. There's no need to involve the cops yet, because it looks like you just need to talk to the right people at the bank first to resolve the matter.

In fact, the question itself was asked while all in a panic and assuming the worst (the horary reflects it).

Belgz, if you went and took the money out of your grandmother's account then there's probably someone calling her trying to make sure she authorized the transfer. I can't imagine a breezy interaction of such an amount without some kind of processing and checking on the situation. They blocked it until it's been figured out.
Why would the cops be brought into this situation? What's with the automatic panic and assuming the worse?
It's all just standard procedure for now, I'm sure.

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Lara
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posted June 03, 2009 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
I totally disagree. Sorry

Her bank have specifically told her "don't contact us!!"
She needs to ring a lawyer... doing nothing makes her look like she's guilty in the banks eyes.

She doesn't even need to hire a lawyer, just to ring one and then it's proved that she was seen to take action!!
No? Maybe it's more laid back in Oz

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MyVirgoMask
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posted June 03, 2009 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Lara, I'm going by the horary first of all.

And as a bank employee she should know better that taking out that kind of amount isn't exactly casual. Of course there's going to be SOME scrutiny. Of course the 2 banks would talk to each other, for security measures!

And her *horary* is asking about cops, not lawyers.
Of course she should contact a lawyer if this doesn't get worked out, to cover her own a$$. I don't know about cops, though. I'd go with lawyer first.

I think we should separate what we THINK she should do from what we think the horary is saying. I'm still saying the horary is no good because the question she thought of as she cast the chart was not specific for the situation.

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Lara
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posted June 03, 2009 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Agree

Saturn is the bank as on MC and ruler of her 2nd.

It squares sun, ruler of her 9th/travel.

I'd be amazed of this was sorted out by the time she travels.

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Lara
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posted June 03, 2009 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Agree

Saturn is the bank as on MC and ruler of her 2nd.

It squares sun, ruler of her 9th/travel.

I'd be amazed of this was sorted out by the time she travels.

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Lara
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posted June 03, 2009 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Agree

Saturn is the bank as on MC and ruler of her 2nd.

It squares sun, ruler of her 9th/travel.

I'd be amazed of this was sorted out by the time she travels.

EDIT:
NVM, wouldn't you say Pluto is the police though, acting independently from Saturn ( no aspect) whilst Saturn (bank) is affecting 2nd (finances) and 3rd (communication)?

As Pluto is asoecting AC wouldn't you say that she is in trouble at the moment?
Also look at moons a trine to Neptune!

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MyVirgoMask
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posted June 03, 2009 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
I don't know, Lara... I personally think she needs to re-do the chart since she was freaking out when she cast it.
The moon via combusta (from what I've read) says it's no bueno, esp with such an early Asc

Plus the early asc just says it's too soon to tell. So I would say you're right about probably how she would have to wait until after she got back from her vacation to resolve this.

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katatonic
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posted June 03, 2009 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
i don't know how soon the vacation is but if this isn't resolved is there any money to take on it? i think there must be a lawyer she can call at LEAST about being told not to come into work, with no reason given. this is off, somewhere...but i definitely agree not to panic and expect an early resolution, not jail!lol..

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pire
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posted June 03, 2009 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message
Belgz, dont worry. Eventually u might have to delay your holidays and grandma will have to row across the red sea and the indian ocean back to australia.
Seriously, things could be worst, u could be a terrorist planning a banking crisis worldwide. But u just took care of your grandma's finance. Is this out of order considering u work in a bank?

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pire
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posted June 03, 2009 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message
But never do that again without first talking to your manager, unless you want your grandma to visit the true studios of Midnight Express

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Diana
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posted June 03, 2009 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
Can you post your natal with transits?

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