posted June 08, 2009 04:41 AM         

The 12th house is not that well aspected to houses 7 and 9. 12 could be cheating and/or criminal activity.

posted June 08, 2009 11:44 AM         

I purposely didn't look at anyone elses response here so I could have this be clear from my own mind.

The first thing I recommend for anyone getting married is not to get married with the Sun in Scorpio unless you are both don't mind having other partners enter the scenario from time to time. Also, try not to ever have Venus in Scorpio.

With that said, this chart has a pretty lethal T-Square for a marriage chart.

Saturn opposite Chiron both square Venus - OUCH!!!!!!

I don't need to really look at much else. Venus square Saturn in a wedding chart is going to control or freeze the relating process whether through affection or sex. Each person in the couple will have different ideas about values and even social trends and behaviors.

Now I'll reference the Magi Societies ideas about the "Heartbreak Clash". Saturn in tense relationship with Chiron is a strong signal that the relationship or marriage will end painfully.

This chart has all of that in just that 1 T-Square.

Because there are no numbers on the chart, and I won't spend the time trying to pick apart the tick marks, I can tell you that if I saw the numbers I could predict/project exactly when the relationship was going to end.

Pluto in the 12th House closely conjunct the ASC is also another strong suggestion that when Pluto crosses that ASC by transit and/or Solar Arc, there will be such a strong and heavy change that it threatens to destroy the marriage.

Wow, this chart looks a lot like the chart of a friend who married November of 2004. Obviously the chart you posted is around 2 years after that time but with the same exact T-square and also with the Moon conjunct Chiron. That's also not a good thing to have in a chart.

posted June 08, 2009 03:58 PM         

I wish you could see the numbers and stuff, Geo...
It's actually a chart from my own wedding, which was done a day before my birthday (we married September 13th, 2005)

Very true about the Saturn/Venus... there was a serious freeze on affections and waaaay different ways of handling things. The marriage ended in April, 2008. But I'd say in September 2007 is when it was pretty much destroyed and beyond repair.

You're so right about Chiron... I was looking at that and going, Whoa.. this can't be good lol.
Funny, most of these aspects were my own transts at the time:
-Pluto squared my Sun
-Saturn squared my Venus (and eventually my -Mars and ascendant)
..among other fun things.

In my own chart I have a Moon/Chiron conjunct, and we shared that in synastry.

Yes, things did end VERY painfully. Actually, the ending was the easy part. The 1.5 years before getting to that point were nothing short of HELL.

In the relationship composite we had Sun, Mercury, Venus, and who knows what else in the 8th. All in Scorpio... packed 8th house.
We also had a Grand Air trine in there...so there was a big love element going on for sure, but also just sheer pain.
Venus isn't so badly aspected in the composite at all, it's Mars which got NOTHING but challenging squares. Lots and lots of fighting, arguing, almost violence.
Yes, I am not a big fan of Magi, but I can't deny the Venus/Saturn/Chiron theme... it was really prominent.

Nice, job, guys. Thanks.
If anyone else wants to point something out, please do

posted June 08, 2009 05:08 PM         

When we married, we eloped, and the date was loose because we were marrying outdoors and the weather was weird (lots of rain). So we were stuck on the 13th. I wanted an earlier date in September, maybe the first week, but it wasn't possible. I don't know what the moon phase was at the time, have no idea. I would've chosen a waxing Moon, or a New Moon. I'd have probably also checked the dates for the whole numerology deal. Yep. Would've gone all-out probably lol