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posted June 10, 2009 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for songwriter     Edit/Delete Message
Does he really love me?

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posted June 10, 2009 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for songwriter     Edit/Delete Message
AC - A calm ocean; a motionless ship; lazily soaring seagulls.

The moments of pause which sustain and presage change. Alert readiness to act; or distress at not knowing what lies ahead.

DC - Woman agitator makes an impassioned plea to a crowd.

Rising of the human soul in demand for the recognition by the outer nature of the needs of inner being. Self-assertion.

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posted June 10, 2009 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taurean_Scorpion     Edit/Delete Message
I don't think a chart can tell whether he loves you or not...If he loves you, you'll know.

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posted June 10, 2009 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for songwriter     Edit/Delete Message
I'm not sure anymore.

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posted June 10, 2009 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
I agree that a chart doesn't show if a person loves another.


but

Descendant ruler Mercury square the conjunction of Ascendant ruler retrograde Jupiter and retrograde Neptune don't look good. Saturn square the Ascendant/Descendant axis doesn't look good either. Also Saturn square Sun in 7th house doesn't look for relationships.


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posted June 10, 2009 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for songwriter     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Raymond,

Can you please explain why?

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Coffee
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posted June 10, 2009 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message
Following on from Glaucus, best kind of theory I can think of is what he would say.
Marriage, partner, and I guess love, would go under the natural Venus ruled house of number 7.

With Gemini on there, can mean he/she is in two minds/fickle.

Romance has been given to house 5 by some astrologers, just need to define the difference with romance and love.

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posted June 10, 2009 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message
As Jupiter is applying to conjunct, although currently square in the horary chart, its not that bad. Possible that it could get better in a few months, with stages of 1 month each along the way as more significant points.

Maybe more needs to be done or to be given more time.

(not an expert at horary, its just an answer)

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posted June 10, 2009 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kismet*     Edit/Delete Message
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posted June 11, 2009 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
Descendant ruler Mercury is him because it relates to the other person.

Ascendant ruler retrograde Jupiter is you, it relates to the person asking. the conjunction to retrograde Neptune can indicate idealism,inspiration but also illusion,deception,and confusion as well as uncertainty...hence you're asking the question. with the Descendant ruler Mercury square the Ascendant ruler-Neptune conjunction, you have uncertainty,confusion about him.


having the Ascendant ruler square the Descendant ruler indicates conflict,stress between you and him. That can be significantly challenging.

Sun in the 7th house (the other) squared by Saturn also indicates challenges that involve restriction,limitations

the ascendant ruler and descendant ruler both retrograde can indicate delays,hesitations involving both you and him.

any ways....I think that if you want to know if he really loves you, you should straight up ask him. See what he says, and make sure that he gives you straight answer.

I think questions like this should be something that the other person should just answer and not be answered by Astrology.


I'd never use Astrology to confirm if somebody loves me or not. I'd go with what I feel, but also temper my feelings with common sense and assess everything like how she's acts with me and the way she treats me. Of course, I'd straight up ask her. Heck..If I love her, I will tell her that I love her. If it's mutual,she will tell me that she loves me. If it's not, then ah well...I finally know and it could be a possibility that she may never or she will love me with time.. whatever happens.


but yeah, I feel that you're better off sharing your feelings with him, and see how he responds.


You don't need Astrology to tell you that he loves you.


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posted June 11, 2009 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for songwriter     Edit/Delete Message
"With Gemini on there, can mean he/she is in two minds/fickle."

Sometimes, i do think he's playing mind games.

"Maybe more needs to be done or to be given more time."

Here I'm really like the planet Jupiter. No matter how bad I feel about our situation I try to stay optimistic and hoping that things will turn out well for us.

"Sun does not receive your significator; (Aqua/detriment) Hmm, plus sun in his first which means he's focused on himself."

There's the Sun trine Jupiter Orb: 7 ?! it's true that he's very much focused on himself.

"Mercury square the Ascendant ruler-Neptune conjunction, you have uncertainty, confusion about him."

"having the Ascendant ruler square the Descendant ruler indicates conflict, stress between you and him."

"Sun in the 7th house (the other) squared by Saturn also indicates challenges that involve restriction, limitations"

"the ascendant ruler and descendant ruler both retrograde can indicate delays,hesitations involving both you and him."

Raymond, he does tell me that he loves me, but does he mean it? I started questioning his sincerity. I posted this horary question to gain insight into his mind.


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posted June 11, 2009 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
any ways....I think that if you want to know if he really loves you, you should straight up ask him. See what he says, and make sure that he gives you straight answer.

I think questions like this should be something that the other person should just answer and not be answered by Astrology.


I'd never use Astrology to confirm if somebody loves me or not. I'd go with what I feel, but also temper my feelings with common sense and assess everything like how she's acts with me and the way she treats me. Of course, I'd straight up ask her. Heck..If I love her, I will tell her that I love her. If it's mutual,she will tell me that she loves me. If it's not, then ah well...I finally know and it could be a possibility that she may never or she will love me with time.. whatever happens.


but yeah, I feel that you're better off sharing your feelings with him, and see how he responds.


You don't need Astrology to tell you that he loves you.



Very well said, I also agree. Although I can also relate to the OP's feelings, coz in my insecure moments, I also did try to seek for answers/confirmations about the compatibility/feelings of the one I love through astrology. But well, no matter what astrology can tell (how compatible we could be and how fated things seems to be), it means nothing if in the real life we can't truly feel each other's feelings. During those insecure moments, I'd never really feel/satisfied even when astrology gives me positive hints, but only 'till my bf gives me positive hints in the real life.

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mir
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posted June 11, 2009 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message
Raymond,

Now I was wondering about this, could that also be some kind of indicator for having trouble with 'loving someone'...

Mercurius conjunct. Ascendant (4 degr. Virgo)

Saturnus (4 Gem) square it,

Neptunus (0 Sag) also square it,


I hate my language barrier!!!
Wanted to say more.....but can't!
(maybe no coincidence with this placement; )

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posted June 11, 2009 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for taurusvirgoleolady1974     Edit/Delete Message
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You don't need Astrology to tell you that he loves you.

ahhh life were that simple! sometimes yes you do need astrology, or a knock in the head for that matter. the reality is that answers are not always clear to the asker. your "gut' feeling may in fact be wrong due to possible manipulation or confusion by the other party or even yourself. wishful thinking. on the other hand, you may think someone actually does not love you, but in fact they do. actions do not always show true feelings. i asked an horary if my ex was still interested in me. my gut feeling was no. but it turned out to be the opposite. so it just depends. most of us have had partners whom we ask "do you love me?" and they would say "yes" only to find out otherwise.

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posted June 12, 2009 08:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for songwriter     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks! i appreciate your answers.

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