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Kismet*
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posted June 12, 2009 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kismet*     Edit/Delete Message
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Ruben
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posted June 12, 2009 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ruben     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, Moon trine Mars is a very common aspect in this sense.

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posted June 12, 2009 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for etherealenlightenment     Edit/Delete Message
I think aspects to asteroids Boda and Lucina can be indicative of wanting to impregnate...

Boda is marriage

Lucina is children

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posted June 12, 2009 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message
Man impregnate a Woman?

10th house aspect. Indicates a link with the mother, and with psychologists or whoever doing the research to say blokes go for their mother, you can see my logic.

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posted June 12, 2009 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message
The complex where pychos and/or scientists believe Men (or even people) go after the parent of the opposite sex as a partner. As it reads.

10th house due to Mother being 10th house.

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posted June 12, 2009 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ruben     Edit/Delete Message
Coffee, are you saying a conjunction with the MC would make the male idealize the planet person as a reflection of the IC?

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posted June 12, 2009 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message
Probably a link between the 10th house ruler of the person (as 10 house...is known to represent Mother in the natal chart) to the 1st house ruler of the lady in question.

Maybe she even has same ASC as your Mum, due to the appearance. Just throwing wacky ideas out. It worked before and sometimes along the way.

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posted June 12, 2009 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for letram     Edit/Delete Message
are you sure its the fact he wants children with you, or he just wants to have a go unprotected?

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posted June 12, 2009 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
I think Sun is more the father imho

I see Saturn is more about authority in general


a strict,authoritarian father could be somebody with a hard Sun-Saturn aspect. a strict,authoritarian mother could be somebody with a hard Moon-Saturn aspect
I have Saturn quincunx Sun and square Moon myself...a mystic triangle. Both my parents were strict and authoritarian with me.


Saturn as father is definitely a western astrological thing. Sun is father in Vedic Astrology, but there are western astrologers that use Sun as the father too.

I think Sun describes my father more accurately than Gemini does.

Liz Greene's Relationship Astrology report uses Saturn placement as the father which she uses a man's relationship profile in the relationship. It doesn't work. It makes me superficial. From what my mom told me, my father was a man who was very jealous type that can get paranoid. He was also very intense,emotional,sensitive.
Therefore Sun in Scorpio fits me more than my Saturn in Gemini. The Sun quincunx Saturn in Gemini also fits him because he had Sun in Capricorn and was very shy and had problems with verbal communications. My stepfather was a power,control freak, and he restricted me when it came to communications at times.


Saturn is the planet of responsibility,obligation too
as an only child,I have responsibility,obligation to help my mother out like ...she asks me for money a lot because she is disabled with health problems, and so I give her money. That could be seen with the combination of Sun in 2nd trine Moon in 6th,and Saturn quincunx and square it for a mystic triangle.


a lot of things in Astrology can be questioned. I always had problems viewing Saturn as the father. However,I also don't think Sun fits well with the father either. Sun doesn't rule the 10th house. It rules the 5th house which is associated with children. I feel more comfortable using 4th as the mother and 10th house as the father.

interestingly, southern Indian vedic astrologers do that, but northern vedic astrologers use 9th as the father with the father viewed as the guru. It depends on the culture.


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posted June 12, 2009 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message
I prefer 4th as mother and 10th as father. For logical trained purposes, yet the other way round shows up better with transits, and they dont lie. Its just situations here on earth that do that. Cant really change the motion of planets.

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posted June 13, 2009 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message
I think it varies from chart to chart. 10th in my chart is more indicative of my mother and 4th is more my father.

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Azalaksh
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posted June 13, 2009 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with amowls as relates to my chart.....

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posted June 13, 2009 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuranian     Edit/Delete Message
my chart agrees w amowls too

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posted June 13, 2009 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
I've found Mars conjunct Moon is an oddly fertile aspect, with Mars being the man usually. I have two sets of friends with Mars conjunct Moon in their synastry and composite, and they really are happy with having children.
I would think the trine is good, sure, but the conjunction feels like it would increase the desire to be physical, to engage in the act.
Naturally the person would want a baby in the first place. I don't think a single aspect can change someone's mind if they're not interested in having kids.
But I do think that a man's Mars conjunct a woman's moon will add a weird desire, and the trine would do as well. I had it with my ex though, and he did not want kids with me...because in general he didn't want kids.

As for a man wanting to take care of a woman.... I would say Saturn would create a sense of obligation toward the other (as Glaucus mentioned), so look for Saturn (I don't mean this in a traditional fatherly way either). It may not be 'fun', but Saturn does tend to be protective, and the contacts can bind. Not necessarily nurturing, but definitely protective and all about obligation.
So, I would say aspects to Saturn in the natal, and also in the synastry. I don't know if just Mars in Virgo alone would cut it.

Have you looked at their composite???

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posted June 13, 2009 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotion     Edit/Delete Message
would mars square moon in synastry point to infertility?

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posted June 13, 2009 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
No isolated aspect is going to tell you that.

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Kismet*
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Kismet, the Mars/Chiron sounds VERY promising. It's like sexual healing (a great start to making babies, or so I feel )

Curious what the 4th and 5th houses look like. Where's that Mars and that Chiron, and also that Moon, if you don't mind me asking? Also, are the planets 'clustered' in a certain house, because whatever house will be a theme.

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