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meta_4
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posted June 15, 2009 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meta_4     Edit/Delete Message
So, i'm transferring colleges and just received a message from the only roommate that i haven't met yet (i'm living with 7 other girls, YIKES!).

She's great. And we're getting along just fine. Woot. Woot.

I did her natal chart, of course, and i spy A LOT of water. For those of you who know me personally, you know how much i LURVE water (especially Scorpio ), so all's swell, right?

Ehhhhhh!!!! Wrong.

In her natal chart she has basically NO harsh aspects... but our synastry produces a good amount of harsh-ness. What i'm worried about is bombarding her with heaviness... i don't want to scare her!

Natal:

Synastry:

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Unmoved
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posted June 15, 2009 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
Her Mars in your 12th stood out for me.

She will likely feel your aggression (or Strength/force) but never be able to prove that it is really there, partly because you will be careful to not frighten her. She isn't innocent though. She might be passive aggressive and this will annoy you, but because she is so "nice" on the outside, you will also be unable to prove this about her, therefore you won't be able to do something about it since she might deny her passive aggression.

So, this may result in a lot of power struggles, or psychological fights that are seldom verbalized.

Because of your AC, you'll soon smell the rat of this and decide to confront her, but her AC prefers harmony so she'll probably avoid confrontation as much as she can. So, more than scaring her, she'll most likely annoy and frustrate you.

The frustration will go both ways. But, this could just be a once-in-a-while effect, or something that may never happen.

edit: of course, there are other ways that Mars in 12th can express itself. E.g. a relationship where aggression or force is muted. Not due to passive aggression, but just because there is no need to be be forceful (a gentle relationship)

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meta_4
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posted June 15, 2009 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meta_4     Edit/Delete Message
Sounds like you've hit the nail on the head, Unmoved. I can already sense this theme in our relationship after just having talked to her for a few days. It's just in her energy. Her aura.

Thanks so much for your insight.

Question:

Have you ever experienced this type of relationship? Where someone's natal was either "softer" or "harder" than yours...? How did it turn out?

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Coffee
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posted June 15, 2009 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message
The bad aspect for roomie is 1st ruler Saturn opposing Jupiter. A few others involved with the opposition too. The chart might look pretty, yet that aspect is not the best. Somewhat criminal or can speak about a long term illness involving Jupiter themes.

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Diana
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posted June 15, 2009 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
You won't scare her. She has so much scorpio, she might scare YOU. lol.

You might work out fine. I hope you don't turn this into a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Definitely let us know what happens!

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Diana
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posted June 15, 2009 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
Oh, could you post the composite? Sometimes that's more accurate, IMO.

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meta_4
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posted June 15, 2009 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meta_4     Edit/Delete Message
Diana,

Her ASC is approximated (based off of me guessing from her pictures- lame, i know!).

But here is the composite:

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mblover
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posted June 15, 2009 11:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mblover     Edit/Delete Message
A water can wound Leos way too deep if Leo tries to receive Ego boost for wrong reasons.

With Aqua moon, you'd express a lot of logical reasons on your principles and beliefs.

With Pisces moon this Sco woman seems very communicative than being secretive. But, she seems amazingly smart and equally magnetic.

I see a competition here.. It'll be a fun ride..

Ideally, I'd recommend avoiding this woman altogether.. unless you want to be adventurous and learn about water people.

This Sco woman seems like someone who would go to the Top and you may not even know her plans until she comes to the Top.

Keep us posted

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meta_4
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posted June 16, 2009 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for meta_4     Edit/Delete Message
mblover,

Why do you say that "ideally" you'd suggest avoiding her altogether- because of the possible power struggles?

... jeez... i think i'm getting nervous now!

I just don't want to have an unbareable living situation. I'm also looking for people to connect with. She seems great, but there's just this X-factor that i can't pinpoint..

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posted June 16, 2009 03:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
Ideally we avoid people who are going to bring out our worst, annoy us, and with whom we get immersed with petty spats. But life does not work out this way.

So here you are, trying to fit in and be less overpowering, not scare the poor girl. What is she doing to help things along? It cuts both ways.

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Peri
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posted June 16, 2009 05:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
wow, I love her chart!

Meta, don't worry that you might scare or hurt her, she is a very strong and determined person >> Sun conj Pluto in Scorpio. I think Pisces Moon and Cancer Jupiter and Cancer DSC may give her that quiet and soft aura about her but don't let it mislead you. I dont think it is a good idea to try and become very close friends from the very beginning, just be open, friendly and respectful - it always works best. The synastry is potentially challenging and power plays are possible but only if you get too close, being friendly and keeping your distance at the same time seems a good solution to me.
At school I had a close friend when I grew up and looked at our charts I was shocked to see how stressful our synastry was! we never fought or hurt each other, maybe she secretly hated me lol but at that time I felt nothing of the kind.

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posted June 16, 2009 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scrappydog     Edit/Delete Message
Sun conjunct pluto can be very harsh and tough! I have this aspect myself and I'm a lot stronger than most, this is a survivor aspect.

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meta_4
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posted June 16, 2009 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meta_4     Edit/Delete Message
Alright... it seems like what i'm going to have to do is keep my distance...

Drat!

My natural instinct is to investigate and try to bond with people who have similar interests as me, BUT obviously that would be just asking for trouble. Shucks!

Thanks for all the information, and your insight. Much appreciated.

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posted June 16, 2009 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Meta,

forget astrology, just go with what your instincts tell you.
If they tell you that you want to bond with her, get to know her.
Astrology is not as fatalistic as some think.

Besides maybe she actually "needs" those energetic aspects, you provide her, to get active.

Let me give you an example of a friend and me:

Her Moon squares my Saturn
My Moon opposes her Saturn

my Pluto conjuncts her Mercury, Venus, Mars and Pluto

my Venus squares her Mercury, Venus, Mars and Pluto (the squares to Venus, Mars and Pluto are 5 dgree wide though)

Her Jupiter opposite my Mars

her Neptune squares my chartruler Jupiter and conjuncts my NN

her Pluto squares my Venus and conjuncts my MC

her MC squares my Mars and ASC

her ASC squares my Pluto


We have been friends for 20 years this year! More than half of our lives.
And no, it wasn`t always easy, and we are definitely different in some respects, but we grew together and most people, we knew from school or universitiy, can`t believe that we STILL are friends. But we are, and I think we will be until one of us dies.

And that with all these challenging aspects; so yes, it can work, and it can be a great friendship, if you are aware of your differences and the inherent boundaries.

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meta_4
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posted June 16, 2009 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meta_4     Edit/Delete Message
Holy Moly, DD! Those are some SERIOUS aspects. I bet your relationship was, and is, sincerely deep. It must be after 20-some years.

But thanks for the advice. I'm just going to let the universe do what it will- whatever happens, happens.

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posted June 16, 2009 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crabbypatty     Edit/Delete Message
I say, based on her sun, moon and ascendant alone: that I agree with Peri, you'll be ok if you keep a nice, low profile. You're going to be a lot of girls together, so that alone should take the stress off any particular roomie-to-roomie interaction. She's probably very private, very emotional, and rather serious. Just be polite and stay out of her way. Respect her personal property. Don't go "borrowing" anything. Don't even ASK to borrow anything. Not a dollar, not an eyeliner, not a cup, not a dish. Don't gossip about her behind her back. Don't interfere with her sleep. Don't stare at her for too long. I did the roomie thing in college years ago and I know all the potential minefields.

You might end up being best buddies, who knows? But let her initiate that if she is drawn to you.

Lotsa luck.

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DD
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posted June 16, 2009 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Meta,

yes, this friendship is pretty serious. As I said we are different in some respects, but there is much tolerance, respect and understanding between us and the knowledge that we are able to learn from each other.
I think we know each other pretty well, probably better than most.

I think maybe her Aries-Moon sextile my Moon helped as well as my Jupiter exactly trine her ASC.

So what I wanted to say is these tension aspects don`t really have to be all that bad.

Anyway all you can do is wait and see how it develops.
And you said your first impression was positive, so I`d go with it. My first impression actually never failed me until now, if I only had listened to it in some cases! *sighs*


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posted June 18, 2009 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message
Meta4,

I had supposedly excellent synastry with my former roommate and we clashed constantly. Eventually, we became enemies. Ultimately, free will will determine your relationship with each other.

You need to tell her directly either by calling her or waiting until you see her in person, what your pet peeves are. Ask her to do the same. Decide right then and there how you will handle conflicts. Tell her that if you do anything that annoys her, then she should feel free to tell you directly or write a note if she doesn't handle confrontation well. If she goes to sleep late and you go to sleep early, make sure you decide together how you will handle these differences. It's important to establish an open communication from the very start.

Another thing to discuss is how to handle friends coming over. Do you want to be told ahead of time if there will be visitors? Does she? Do you like to party while she prefers a quiet environment or vice versa?

Whenever you guys have a disagreement, try to discuss the problem calmly, though this will be challenging at times. If you can't speak calmly, tell her that you need to cool off and will return when you calm down.

Another source of conflict is dealing with a messy roommate. Are you both messy or is only one of you messy while the other is very neat? Be upfront about your habits and come to a compromise on how to deal with it.

To sum up, you need to discuss the following with your roommate:
1) How you will handle conflict
2) Pet peeves
3) Personal habits

Good luck!

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Diana
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posted June 18, 2009 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
Astra:

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AcousticGod
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posted June 18, 2009 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
I think you'll be fine. I think she does have an adequate amount of harsh aspects to handle it. Having a bunch of planets conjunct in Capricorn in the 12th can't be easy. Capricorn Rising isn't easy. Sun conjunct Pluto conjunct Mercury should add a bit of depth.

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posted June 18, 2009 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meta_4     Edit/Delete Message
Astra,

Much thanks. I think you're right- the best way to deal with this is logically. In a very Virgo-like manner: just get the facts and build from there.

This is going to be my sophmore year, so i have lived with roommates before... but there was just something about this chick that made me HAVE to do her chart. So when i looked at all of this i thought it might be a big deal, but it's really not.

Thanks for the advice. We'll just have to see what happens!

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