posted June 24, 2009 02:26 AM         

Please tell me there is more to it than this, I have 4 planets in this house.

What does the 7th house say about your chart? Is it empty? What sign is on the cusp?

Mine is Taurus, Venus is sitting on the Descendant. The Sun, Mercury and Saturn are all in this house.

I think this house is about relating to other people not just your marital partner. Saturn here shows how I have resisted accepting that being a people person and making relationships work is a major part of my life. I would have liked to have been more dynamic but I suppose I have to accept my talents in life, they are unseen ones and often not really accepted as success in our material world. I also have Libra Moon. It either doesn't help or does depending upon perspective.

posted June 24, 2009 02:57 AM         

Ruler is in Moon in Pisces in the 2nd or 3rd house.

My love life sounds sappy so far..and with chiron(wound), I have a fear of rejection in relationships.

Pisces Moon 3rd/2nd house- I may want a dreamer, someone spiritual yet grounded, sensual and physical, someone to share and talk with about everything ranging to normal everyday subjects to otherworldly things..

posted June 24, 2009 03:25 AM         

"My love life sounds sappy so far..and with chiron(wound), I have a fear of rejection in relationships"

Who doesn't ? lol

I have most of my planets dispersed in the 7th and 8th house.

I have venus, Saturn and Pluto there.
I prefer my relationships (whether platonic or intimate) more on the intense side.

I don't know if that makes sense at all, but as mcuh as I am demanding about relationships being that way, I am slow to open up.

I often find that many people are attracted to me and want to be friends but I perceive them as too "fickle".

posted June 24, 2009 03:40 AM         

I am very fragile and oversensitive about even the idea of romantic rejection. I know no one likes that feeling, but it's such a Huge Deal for me, while in other areas of my life I am way less thin-skinned. I'm very Cancerian about that one issue. In every other area of my life, I really show my 8th house Leo Sun-Merc and Scorpio MC.

I just posted this on the 7th house Saturn thread, but here is Anne Ortelee's list of what the 7th house covers:

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Seventh House: Libra - Air Cardinal Cooperation Face to Face Relationships
Business and marital partners, marriage, divorce, contracts, lawsuits, bargains, agreements, dealings with the public, public's response to you, open enemies, cooperation with others, lack of cooperation, what you most lack in your self, attitudes towards marriage, your mate, kind and quality of your marriages, how many marriages, grandparents, people who act as your agent or on your behalf, public relations, unions, kidneys, ovaries, lower half of back, participation, interaction, oppositions, sharing, competition, compromise, fairness, others return what they feel you deserve, reconciliation, equality, alternatives, obstruction, blockages, withdrawal, behavior, manners, etiquette, social skills, how others help you or fight you, peace, harmony, tolerating differences, virtues, bitchiness, law suit

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posted June 24, 2009 03:59 AM         

I guess I tend to idealize friendship/relationship. I go extra miles for anyone and get disappointed when they don't for me. In my mind, everyone should jump to helping each other. Unrealistic I know, but i can't help but feel disappointed every time. I learned to expect it.

posted June 24, 2009 04:35 AM         

How have I experienced it? I do value loyalty and simplicity (no mind games for me) in a partner. I like partners who are comfortable in who they are and with their own bodies and are self-assured, and can be like a 'rock' to me, in a sense that they can be relied on.

I tend to be turned off by those who are too flashy or insincere,or those who play social games too much.

Chiron I can see in that most of my partners have that 'maverick' quality, and were unconventional in one sense or another.

I think 7th can also be about our general mode of relating on a one to one basis. What qualities we seem to project or share with a partner, and what we expect or need to have reflected back to us in a one to one type of interaction. I know I like to come across as being down to earth, no frills and drama, straight forward and rather fixed in my one to one interactions. although this does not reflect my true self that closely (mostly fire, with this being my only earth placement).

Blue moon with venus smack bang sitting on your Dsc, it would be dignified by placement and sign(is it in Taurus?), making it a strong player in your chart. Being on Dsc I would imagine you'd have a very congenial and pleasing manner of relating to others, perhaps your interactions are rather Venusian in their nature - charming and warm, leaving people disarmed and feeling amiable towards you. Merc here perhaps indicates that your mode of communication and what you often spend your mental energy on centers around other people, and relation to others, less as groups, but more as individuals (in that amicable and charming manner)The sun indicates that relating and engaging yourself with other beings/people and carrying on all types of exchanges(mercury=intellectual, venus=romantic,entertainment-related,
saturn = teaching,making plans,organizing, sun= being yourself and learning about yourself most easily through your interactions with others) is central and very
integral to who you are.

posted June 25, 2009 12:19 AM         

about my 7th ~

sign-aquarius
ruler-uranus in the 5th, sagittarius
planets h7-mercury (conj dsc)
aspects-mercury sextiles uranus,squares jupiter

all right to really fess up to it i need the verbal gymnastics in order to feel like i can connect with someone. if you're trying to approach me being all about emotion we're not going to mesh. this doesn't relate well to my water sun, but it is what it is. if you're trying to get too close and want to know xyz personal things about me asap, i'm headed in the opposite direction, fast. believe me i hate to admit this!

i attract the most jumpy, loquacious, nervy men on the planet, over and over-this yr i've finally realized that if i see one he will make a beeline for me and there's nothing i can do about it.

thing is i thrive on this energy, and hate to admit it, but will run my mouth non-stop if there's a silent moment with someone who is not of the same type. i need that verbal give and take, the outrageous statements (uranus/jupiter) in order to feel comfortable moving to the next level (getting my heart involved, that is).

i'm not comfortable at all if the conversation is dead and i flit around like a butterfly to engage whomever it doesn't matter as long as my mental energy is being utilized, and i'll talk to anyone about anything whatever my mind is attuned to, doesn't matter who they are (this bothers me somewhat but the mental energy takes over and its hard to control).

needing a sounding board for whatever i do is also very important, needing another's opinion, doesnt matter if i agree or not i still like to know what other people think, honestly i'm quite obsessed with what is going through other people's minds which is part of the reason i need to talk to so many of them, will walk right up unabashed and ask them the most seemingly odd question but it's not really like i can help it, have now learned that seemingly inappropraite conversation is sagittarius so that makes sense.

used to have the biggest problem with going along with whatever anyone said and agreeing with their p.o.v. until i started utilizing my aqua merc energy and realized i'm better doing a ton of research on whatever subject it is before i make up my mind, and then it's set in stone. never said i don't attract stubborn

i also really think planets conj the dsc affect appearance, i have a lot of virgo/gemini physical traits [from mercury opp asc 2 deg] -and this explains why i walk faster than anyone i know.

how embarrassing i cant shut up even typing this

posted June 25, 2009 02:56 AM         

It is taking me a long time wrapping my head around 4 planets in the 7th. As a stroppy teenage feminist I was quite annoyed not to have more 9th or 11th house action.
Thinking about those houses and your post ~

I have a Sag/Aqua influence with Jupiter/Neptune in Sag in 1st and Aqua Mars in 3rd. Mars is Square Mercury! The older I get the more I feel disinclined to waste time by not getting to the point and saying what I mean. It shakes things up but as much as it may cause me problems sometimes it is surprising how much people appreciate it, particularly if if it a positive comment. It just shocks them that someone would bother.

posted June 25, 2009 10:53 AM         

...and I have continuity with Venus squaring Saturn/Uranus in Pisces so.

posted June 25, 2009 01:27 PM         

Jupiter in leo
Pluto in virgo
Uranus in virgo
all in my 7th house.

my sun/mercury conjunct in 2nd.

posted June 25, 2009 03:36 PM         

I have Mercury, Venus, and Neptune in Sag in the 7th.

In some way, I want people to know me for all of these things. My mind (Mercury), my talent/art (Venus), and my Vision/Creativity (Neptune).

posted June 26, 2009 05:03 AM         

I was engaged to be married over two years ago now and I'm still with the guy (I do love him a lot) but we still haven't set the date yet. I know that this is me stalling and I'm not sure why. I think I'm not ready yet and I guess I'll know when the right moment is for me. Maybe I'm not cut out for it? Only time will tell!!!

posted June 27, 2009 01:10 AM         

no planets in 7th house

both 7th house rulers Jupiter and Neptune in Sagittarius in 3rd house - seek connection with broadminded people,also involve other cultures...interracial relationship

conjunct Imum Coeli in Sagittarius - connection to my multiracial heritage,multicultural family

oppose retrograde Saturn in Gemini in 9th - also seek connection with people that are grounded in their beliefs,thinking...be critical thinkers that don't easily believe in things

7th house rulers square Moon - interact with others that are emotional,nurturing,sensitive

also if you add centaurs

My Chariklo is in 23'53 Pisces Retrograde in 7th
trine my Venus in 21'47 Scorpio in 3rd

Chariklo: (Female) Consort to Athena and healing assistant to Vesta in the temples. Orbital Period: 63.05 yr.

Positive - boundary sensitive, wise, just, non-assumptive especially regarding personal relationship, interrogative about touchy or delicate issues

Negative - judgmental, feeling of being victimized at a glance, assumptive, intolerant, biased by gender archetypes

Mundane - swimming in the nude, eyesight, hearing, flirting, sexual harassment, motivation oriented

Ceremonial - a see no evil, hear no evil scenario, energetic healing, work to clear intent and motive
http://www.philipsedgwick.com/

Chariklo is the largest of the centaurs, and so even larger than Chiron.

posted June 27, 2009 01:20 AM         

I'm extremely relationship oriented, though, which I wouldn't guess from that information. Also, I really like to kind of melt with my partner, kind of a "fade into you" thing, which also doesn't seem to be supported by this Gemini ruled house, my Sag sun/rising, or my Aqua Venus. Libra moon seems to be the only indication.

My BFF is a Gemini and we're kind of kindred souls in a way. He's a gay male, so that doesn't exactly play out in any sort of romantic sense.

I've never dated a Gemini, or anyone with strong Gemini placements.

I do have to have a partner that I can gibby gab with all day and all night though. Does that count?

posted June 27, 2009 01:39 AM         

what's aspecting the Ascendant/Descendant axis?

what's aspecting Venus?

also where is your 7th house ruler placed and what aspects does it have? that's very important if the 7th house is empty just like my 7th house is.

posted June 27, 2009 01:48 AM         

My sun is conjunct Ascendent, so would oppose my descendent.

Venus squares Uranus. Moon and Pluto both in Libra, Pluto conj. midheaven.

posted June 27, 2009 10:50 AM         

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I'm extremely relationship oriented, though, which I wouldn't guess from that information. Also, I really like to kind of melt with my partner, kind of a "fade into you" thing, which also doesn't seem to be supported by this Gemini ruled house, my Sag sun/rising, or my Aqua Venus. Libra moon seems to be the only indication.

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posted June 27, 2009 11:43 AM         

yes, in a way I think I seek someone who mirrors me. Relationships which also includes friendships are THE way to get to know and understand myself better.