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vertiver
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posted June 29, 2009 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I understand that astrology and coincidence sometimes coincide a lot, however beauty preferences is the one thing that varies the most with people. So to all those out there who think larger noses and fuller figures etc.. (both male and female) are attractive, do you think this preference is astrological or just coincidence?

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woah city
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posted June 29, 2009 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah city     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i am big into unconventional. i think it likely has to do with my aquarian stellium (sun/merc/mars).

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Lucia23
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posted June 29, 2009 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it can depend on the motivation.

I know some people who, while they may secretly be attracted to conventional beauty standards, rebel against them out of principle.

But the influences of some signs make them more laid-back about physical appearance...here are my stereotypes:

ARIES influence: Likes a conventionally good-looking partner, but however pretty/handsome that person is, Aries won't be interested in more than a roll in the hay (sometimes not even that) unless the person is exciting, vibrant, and dynamic. If the person is exciting/vibrant/dynamic enough, that will trump the beauty thing for Aries.

TAURUS influence: Likes a beautiful partner. Sometimes his/her standards of beauty are very artistic though, more driven by true aesthetics than society. A straight Taurus man, for example, would probably be more attracted to an hourglass woman with beautiful, even features who looked like something out of a Renaissance painting than a strange-looking, angular runway model.

GEMINI influence: Like all the air signs, usually likes a conventionally pretty/cute partner and wants the partner to be charming with a real intellectual spark. In my experience, Gems mostly choose partners who meet the beauty standard.

CANCER influence: Likes a conventionally good-looking partner.

LEO influence: Likes a trophy to show off, but, if the Leo is one of those hip, unconventional Leos, part of his/her performance might involve showing off a partner who is cool and edgy rather than conventionally good-looking. The main thing is that the Leo has to feel that, if he (she) were not with the partner, he would be jealous of himself.

VIRGO influence: Likes a conventionally beautiful partner, and is extra picky about it--usually the partner has to be NATURALLY beautiful. Virgo men, especially, seem to be into flawless-skinned, silky-haired women who look airbrushed even on camping trips and are in top physical shape.

LIBRA influence: Places a huge priority on conventional beauty, even if he/she pretends not to...which he/she usually does, because conventional beauty standards offend the Libra sense of justice. Even though it goes against their principles, though, they aren't attracted to fat people or plain people. They like showiness, too...if you are dating a Libra man and you put on a dress and makeup, he will gawp over how pretty you are, even if you're no prettier (and considerably less comfy) than you were in your jeans and chapstick.

SCORPIO influence: these people will often be attracted to unconventional-looking partners, or different ages, races, etc...NOT because they prefer that beauty standard, but just because, in looking for deeper connections and transformational relationships, they seek out chemistry at the vibe level more than looking at appearance.

SAGITTARIUS influence: This sign is my top pick for unconventional attractions. Some of them are really promiscuous/not all that faithful anyway (sorry, Sadges), they live in the present moment, they aren't usually obsessed with using their partner as a status symbol, and they can usually find something in most people that piques their curiousity. A lot of them are easily bored and kind of experimental.

CAPRICORN influenced: Wants his/her partner to be good-looking and dignified, and other people's opinions of the partner do count. In hetero relationships, the Cap men like their women to be feminine-looking, and the women like their men to be masculine-looking, unlike potentially gender-bendy Gems or Sadges.

AQUARIUS influenced: Surprisingly, these folks seems to like conventionally good-looking partners! You would think they'd be the quirkiest in the zodiac, but that's not true in my experience. The Aqua men, especially, are practically Libras when it comes to taste in women.
EDITED: Woah city, I just read your post after writing this! I stand corrected! Probably everyone will post letting me know my stereotypes are wrong...they're crude but all based on the people I know personally, I realize there will be many exceptions.

PISCES influenced: Some of the more evolved fish are open to unconventional heart-connections, which can include attraction to someone who does not meet conventional beauty standards. Also, the Pisces idea of beauty is dreamy, loose, and can be more about a sense of magic than anything rigid.

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Lucia23
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posted June 29, 2009 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, for me--Leo with heavy Cancer influence--I like a man with gratuitiously over-the-top gorgeous looks, but if he's cool and edgy and COOL enough, I'm into him.

(Most of my life I've been entangled with some rocker or actor, lol.)

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posted June 29, 2009 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm attracted to either conventional or unconventional looking peeps....could it be the duality of my gemini venus? They can be either, as long as they interest or attach me in some way. I also have a cancer sun/7th house, virgo moon, and aries mars.

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posted June 29, 2009 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lucia, I relate more to the Saggitarius/ Aries description even though I'm a Leo Sun. I think Uranus influences can make the conventional boring... I'm not a fan of conventional looks, especially pretty boys, they have the worst 'tudes!

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posted June 29, 2009 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Both apply here. If you have a person with the astrological make-up of a superficial person, "the stars" wont matter much.

Yet I do think astrology plays a big part.
Saying this as a resident astrologer

My partner description for Leo has very little to do with what Im looking for, other than:

Nice hair

Is Confident and "not normal" - by that I mean she comes upto Me and chats Me up. Girls who stand there, flick their hair, pout and wait for the guy to approach are robots. They play a role that society defines for them, so you know how they will act, based on how women are supposed to act. Im after someone who isnt "programmed" by the society she lives in. A confident woman.
Female dogs need not apply.
Someone who makes her own choices and not the choice of her friends. You know the type, one who dates her friends more than she dates a partner. The partner is there for the latest gossip when she gets together with the girls.

The hair bit for appearance is obviously Leo.

The second (long) bit is Leo in some way, but more of "not Aquarian"

Someone who isnt famous too. That is very Leo.

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posted June 29, 2009 11:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Leo description for "showing off" could apply. Yet the "trophy" bit seems something else, maybe more of a Capricorn trait.

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posted June 29, 2009 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah city     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey lucia. well i also have mars in aquarius and sag venus, so all around i'm only stimulated by things that diverge from the norm. my taurus moon appreciates beauty, but for me it's more to do with a sensuality and softness and warmth in a man, than how he looks.

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posted June 29, 2009 11:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Although I am Virgo, the Scorpio description fits me. This is likely due to my Scorpio Asc, Mars, Jupiter, Eros, Ceres, Pallas.

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posted June 29, 2009 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, a lot of people won't admit (even to themselves) that they are usually attracted to conventional good looks. And of course there are different defs. of conventional good looks!

Sometimes people say they like "quirky" or "inner beauty" and what they mean is they like a beautiful, thin girl with nice breasts and a mowkawk instead of a beautiful, thin girl with nice breasts and long blond hair...or as hipster-chic, cute boy in thick glasses instead of a male model.

Here are some questions to get to the core of it:

1) Have you ever (not would you, but HAVE you) dated/made out with/slept with somebody who was fat?
2) ...with somebody who had acne or another skin problem?
3)...with somebody with a visible physical disability or deformity?


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posted June 30, 2009 12:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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If the person is exciting/vibrant/dynamic enough, that will trump the beauty thing for Aries.

Give me stimulating conversation, quick repartee and make me laugh and you'll probably start to look better as the conversation flows, no matter how you looked to begin with.

Venus & Merc in Aries in 1st, Uranus conjunct DC in Libra, Moon in Aqua in 11th.

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posted June 30, 2009 12:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah I forgot to say that the gemini, aries, and scorpio fit me best. Intrigue, spark, and/or connection will make someone look very sexy to me, even if they weren't originally. ^__^

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posted June 30, 2009 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic Web     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jupiter is my 5th house ruler and is conjunct my Venus in Scorpio... I like the big girls. I love a set of child-bearing hips. I just find fuller figures to be more feminine.

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posted June 30, 2009 12:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scorpionic Web, I assume you're also a Scorpio Sun?

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posted June 30, 2009 12:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ScorpWeb

I actually think this is true for a lot of men, just that it's not conventional to say it. Being on the curvy side, it's really nice to hear a man say that, and to appreciate those feminine curves on a woman.

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posted June 30, 2009 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic Web     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, I think my venusian Libra Moon adds to my attraction to women who know how to over-indulge. Or perhaps my Moon conjunct Pluto increases this attraction. I like a girl who loves to eat, sleep in late, and spend quiet nights lazily basking in pleasurable excesses.

I think being a male with a Libra Moon also gives me an attraction to round, soft, venusian faces.

Lucia: Yes, Scorpio Sun, Merc, Venus, and Jupiter.

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posted June 30, 2009 01:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ScorpWeb

That's beautiful. My Mars in Taurus in 2nd and Jupiter in Scorpio in 7th totally appreciates and respects that.

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posted June 30, 2009 01:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taurean_Scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like a man who has a nice face structure and strong features...short tousled natural looking hair. I don't like too muscular men but do appreciate a strong healthy physique. I also really like guys who wear glasses and look "smart." *wink* I think it's my Mars and Venus in Air.

Taurus/Scorpio/Cancer

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posted June 30, 2009 01:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic Web     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PeaceAngel:

I love Taurus Mars women... some spicy business! And your Jupiter is in Scorpio too!! I bet we'd be quite a match of forces.

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posted June 30, 2009 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ScorpWeb

The expression "depth psychology" comes to mind re: merging our energies. I think we'd have some knock-out conversations, actually.

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posted June 30, 2009 01:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lionseye***     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love the way Lucia23 cut to the heart of the matter here. She defined everything that is anathema to beauty, by today's standards, and asks, can you love past that?

Also, liked your observations about the 12 signs and their specific tastes, as you see it. (good qualifying)

Now in all honesty, I can be attracted to someone quite mediocre, as long as they seem to get me, and get my dumb jokes. But I don't know if I could date someone who is fat, (talking obese here, chubby is ok) has horrible acne, or is in wheelchair... but there is first time for everything. I can overlook alot.

But all things being equal, I would chose the one who I would be proud to strut arm and arm with. Clean shaven, tattoo free, handsome, charismatic, and someone the other girls may stare at. Dignified and poised, but always ready to crack a joke or laugh at one.

Yes, I love it when others are jealous my mate is so awesome. You got that right, Lucia.

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posted June 30, 2009 02:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, to number three, I have made out with someone with a physical deformity, he was a Libra Sun with Cappy moon and Sag. Asc., actually I've only been involved with either Leo, Libra, or Sag. I guess being predominantly fire with air adds to the fiery airness...

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posted June 30, 2009 02:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am Sag sun with strong scorpio influences. I must say that I agree with both the Sag and Scorpio descriptions.But there are further complications with whom I am attracted to , as it can be inconsistant.

I have been told that I like "ugly" guys...but I don't agree, I think a personality that is witty,clever and with a "sexy" edge is very appealing.I have also been with some stunning Librans, Taureans and fellow Sadges in the past(currently dating another stunner:Gemini).

I also tend to pay less attention to the face than I do the bod....if a guy has a nice body, I tend to put everything secondary to that and so you can say that I am a pretty physical kinda guy...

But I also tend to find very "masculine" looking guys very attractive(body included ofcourse) and some pretty boys can also have my blood running high......I don't know, I guess that is why I can't pidgeon-hole myself, I have extravagent and far reaching tastes when it comes to attraction.

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posted June 30, 2009 02:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with you Scorpionic Web, that I like full figured men/women as well. I was so pleased with myself to have found a 6'4 person, since I'm already tall myself, a Leo sun who is almost 6 foot and a female!

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