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woah city
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posted July 05, 2009 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah city     Edit/Delete Message
i feel like studying something new today. so what the heck is all this dwad talk about anyway? anyone have a link for the learning the basics??

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posted July 05, 2009 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
The Hidden Zodiac by Sasha Fenton is a good book on this subject:-

http://www.alibris.co.uk/search/books/qwork/7516881/used/The%20Hidden%20Zodiac


If I can find anything on the 'net I will put it up. But I have this book, so if I get time I can type something for you.

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posted July 05, 2009 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
http://koti.mbnet.fi/neptunia/dwads.htm

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posted July 05, 2009 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/015697.html

Following from: http://astrology.astrozoom.com/index.php?title=Dwads

~ Dwads (Dwadasamsas) ~

Our Inner Resources

A further subdivision of the decanates with their secondary sign influences as expounded in the first table above is into 2½º portions called Dwa-da-Shamsas or Dwads. The tertiary sign influence of the first dwad in each decan is accorded as for the secondary influence of the decan; then each subsequent dwad takes on a tertiary coloration of the following sign in the zodiac. Thus, for example, the complete dwad listing for Aries is as follows:

Dwad........|.Sign Influences.

0º-2½º.....|.Aries-Aries-Aries
2½º-5º.....|.Aries-Aries-Taurus
5º-7½º.....|.Aries-Aries-Gemini
7½º-10º...|.Aries-Aries-Cancer
10º-12½º.|.Aries-Leo-Leo
12½º-15º.|.Aries-Leo-Virgo
15º-17½º.|.Aries-Leo-Libra
17½º-20º.|.Aries-Leo-Scorpio
20º-22½º.|.Aries-Sagittarius-Sagittarius
22½º-25º.|.Aries-Sagittarius-Capricorn
25º-27½º.|.Aries-Sagittarius-Aquarius
27½º-30º.|.Aries-Sagittarius-Pisces

According to Bernice Grebner, the decanate influence shows the purpose of the sign placement for the individual, while the dwad influence shows the conditions influencing the individual, or the means of dealing with problems presented by the placement.

Our Inner Resources

The inner man is the substantial reality; while the other one is only an apparition. - Paracelsus.

Dwads are like another Zodiac within each horoscope sign. And a very interesting Zodiac! Although dwads are an underlying influence, they do not just emphasize radix placements, they also add a whole lot of new content to all your astrological interpretations. Dwads can be seen as sub-types of horoscope signs describing deep inner characteristics you are trying to develop and express through your Sun-Sign and through your whole birth chart. If you manage not to express those inner resources, you may then project them onto others and sort of live your own dwads through them.

Traditionally the Zodiac is first divided into 12 signs and then each of these signs into twelve dwads (from the Sanskrit dwadasamsa). Each dwad is two and one half degrees. The first dwad in each sign is ruled by the sign itself, the second by the next sign and so on. Thus, for instance in Aries the first dwad is ruled by Aries, the second by Taurus, the third one by Gemini... Likewise in Taurus: the first dwad is ruled by Taurus, the second one by Gemini, the third one by Cancer... See the Dwad table below.

Although dwads reflect deeper inner potentials than your birth chart, they have a way of influencing your outer life and personality as well, even the way you look. Dwads are often extremely useful in rectification, because quite often the first impression we have of someone may be more influenced by her or his Ascendant's dwad than by anything else. The first impression is kind of gut feeling, it comes from deep within, from dwads. When we have more time to study the person we meet, then we begin to react to her or his Ascendant.

And dwads are in no way weaker because of their inner nature, on the contrary, they can be strikingly powerful especially in inner-oriented types and in creative personalities. Often they become more powerful and also more visible with advancing age when most of us become more inner-oriented. The older you get, the more you may also become aware of the way your dwads are influencing you and working out in your life.

In relationships dwad can be very powerful. We do not only find people who truly resemble our dwads, often we unconsciously project dwads on our partners, sometimes without them having any resemblance at all. Dwads' unconscious power is sometimes quite remarkable in making us blind to our own projections which, of course, makes the relationship quite frustrating for the partner who may feel that he or she is not seen at all. The partner lives then in a same kind of situation than many a Neptunian with her or his invisible identity. The more intensive and powerful the relationship is, the more enlightening dwads usually are...

For studying your dwads you need, of course, your birth chart. If you don't have it yet, choose an astrologer and ask her or him to cast your birth chart. You will then have an exciting journey inwards - you may not only study dwad-signs of all the planets and angles, we may even cast your dwad chart, which gives you a whole new astrological picture of yourself, within and without. "For according to the outward man, we are in this world, and according to the inward man, we are in the inward world... Since then we are generated out of both worlds, we speak in two languages, and we must be understood also by two languages." (Jacob Böhme)

Any time you wonder how two people with quite similar horoscopes can be so different, look at their dwads. You may see how one of your Leonian friends is truly a pure Leo (Sun in Leo's Leo-dwad) and yet another Leonian friend is more like a Virgo wit all her or his critical talents (Sun in Leo's Virgo-dwad), and the third one is extremely sensitive and compassionate (Sun in Leo's Pisces-dwad). Or why a Scorpio you know has such a talkative and light personality (Sun in Scorpio's Gemini-dwad). And so on.

If you want to take an even deeper journey inwards, you can also calculate so-called super-dwads by dividing each dwad further into twelve parts - and then using your super-dwads to study an even deeper layer of your personality. Just remember that for good results with super-dwads your birth-time must be almost exact. Happy journey inwards!

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posted July 05, 2009 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Redstar     Edit/Delete Message
Personally I am a big fan of using dwads
for gaining greater insight into charts.

If anyone is curious about what dwads their natal planets fall in but are weary of the calculations involved,I am happy to generate and email a dwad chart for you on Kepler.
My email is katyazvezdin@hotmail.com for those who do not want to post their birth details on the web(thank you woahcity .

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posted July 05, 2009 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah city     Edit/Delete Message
wow, loveliness!! thanks for all the info. looks like i'll have my brain full tonight

redstar, sure i'd love to have a generation! can i send you the info over email? mine is whyareyouhappycuzwhy@gmail.com (my daughter said this as i was pondering the name for my email, happily i guess).

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posted July 05, 2009 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Redstar     Edit/Delete Message
woah city yes of course!
Emailed you

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woah city
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posted July 06, 2009 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah city     Edit/Delete Message
thank you madame! i've replied..

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posted July 06, 2009 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for songwriter     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Redstar,

I just sent you an email! (my birth info)

Thank you

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Redstar
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posted July 06, 2009 12:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Redstar     Edit/Delete Message
Sent and sent.
Happy exploring!

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posted July 06, 2009 04:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Dwads are VERY interesting, especially in natal and synastry.

My natal:

Sun: Sagittarius in Libra Dwad
Moon: Aquarius in Leo Dwad
Mercury: Sagittarius in Libra Dwad
Venus: Sagittarius in Pisces Dwad
Mars: Sagittarius in Aquarius Dwad
ASC: Sagittarius in Aquarius Dwad


I think you can use Dwads even in Draco charts.

For example:
My Draco Moon is in gemini and in Leo Dwad.

I thought it was interesting that my tropical as well as Draco Moon have a Leo Dwad, seems like behind all this intellectual, tolerant stuff there is a little queen hiding.

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posted July 06, 2009 05:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fleurdelis     Edit/Delete Message
I thought it was amazing with me and my partner with just the big 3:

My ASC: leo dwad
My Sun: gem dwad
My Moon: pisces dwad

His ASC: pisces dwad
His Sun: leo dwad
His Moon: gem dwad

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woah city
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posted July 06, 2009 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah city     Edit/Delete Message
this stuff is incredibly interesting! and yes there seems to be an interesting tie in with synastry and the projection theory.

my ex and i (who are still close and.. ?) have his sun dwad 1 degree from my neptune and his pluto dwad 1 degree from my rising. for example! also it's given me greater clarity into his *extreme* cautiousness as an individual (which is both extremely admirable and, honestly, debilitating). his AC dwad is 1 deg from his natal saturn and his saturn dwad is 3 deg from his natal rising!!

i'm trying to understand how significant the degrees are in dwads (thanks a zillion redstar for the charts!!). so here's a question. my saturn dwad is 29'23 capricorn and his juno dwad is also 29'23 capricorn. natally they are in different signs altogether. does THIS mean there is a strong affinity here between the two and would this be likened to an exact conjunction between the two?

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posted July 06, 2009 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
my Tau Sun: Scorpio dwad
my Sag Moon: Capricorn dwad
my Cap ASC: Cancer dwad

quite extreme

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