posted July 06, 2009 11:25 PM         

What is your interpretation of a Companionship Chart (first meeting/first contact chart?)where there are many "heartbreak transits" to one person, in Geo, but Cinderella aspects in Helio, AND Cinderella aspects in chart comparison between each other?

posted July 07, 2009 03:58 AM         

Companionship Chart ITSELF has- in Geo
Chiron trine Venus
Chiron trine Mars
Chiron quincunx Sun
But in both Helio charts there is a Venus square Chiron

Companionship transits to Natal A- in Geo
Venus opp Natal Chiron
Mars opp Natal Chiron
Jupiter square Natal Chiron
Saturn quincunx Natal Chiron
Chiron square Natal Venus (wide w/ 3.2 orb I included it only because venus and mars are conjunct and chiron aspects sits right in between them)
Chiron square Natal Mars
Chiron trine Natal Saturn (anything with saturn is challenging right?)

To natal B, Chiron quincunx Natal sun, and Venus and Mars squaring Natal Chiron

Comparison natal to natal- In Geo
A's chiron quincunx B's Venus
A's Chiron quincunx B's Mars
A's Chiron trine B's sun
B's Pluto quincunx A's Mars
B's Pluto trine A's Jupiter
B's Pluto square A's Saturn

Thanks!

posted July 07, 2009 04:39 AM         

Companionship Chart ITSELF has- in Geo
Chiron trine Venus GOOD
Chiron trine Mars GOOD
Chiron quincunx Sun GOOD
But in both Helio charts there is a Venus square Chiron NOT AS BAD AS SATURN

COMPANIONSHIP CHART you have:
1 x cinderella

Companionship transits to Natal A- in Geo
Venus opp Natal Chiron NOT AS BAD AS SATURN
Mars opp Natal Chiron BAD
Jupiter square Natal Chiron NOT AS BAD AS SATURN
Saturn quincunx Natal Chiron CAPTIVATION BAD
Chiron square Natal Venus DOESN'T COUNT
Chiron square Natal Mars BAD
Chiron trine Natal Saturn CAPTIVATION

Comparison natal to natal- In Geo
A's chiron quincunx B's Venus GOOD
A's Chiron quincunx B's Mars GOOD
A's Chiron trine B's sun GOOD
B's Pluto quincunx A's Mars GOOD
B's Pluto trine A's Jupiter GOOD
B's Pluto square A's Saturn BAD

SO, in CAC (natal/natal) you have
1 x cinderella
1 x sexual

A's transits are better. I would say B would have a problem with the relationship MAYBE over time?

posted July 07, 2009 08:44 AM         

REALLY? A's transits are better??? I thought with 7 not so great aspects it would be BAAAD...so the more aspects the better no matter if good or bad?

posted July 07, 2009 08:47 AM         

A's chiron quincunx B's Venus GOOD
A's Chiron quincunx B's Mars GOOD
A's Chiron trine B's sun GOOD
B's Pluto quincunx A's Mars GOOD
B's Pluto trine A's Jupiter GOOD
B's Pluto square A's Saturn BAD

posted July 19, 2009 12:23 PM         

why isn`t the Transit Chiron squaring natal Venus not counted?

posted July 20, 2009 10:52 AM         

Even though it`s interesting to list the isolated aspects, I think it`s even more important to keep the PATTERN in view.

Let me explain with my own chart:
I have Juno on 16.9 Pisces trine Saturn on 16.9 Cancer.

Of course that might possibly make me a controlling ***** , if I apply Magi rules.
What is certainly true is that I have a GREAT need for security; to ensure securityI might be a bit controlling sometimes, even though I must say usually I control myself rather than other people, as I really dislike manipulative power games.

Anyway now let`s image someone has Mars on 18 Scorpio (like STuart Townsend, who I happen to find pretty irresistible. ).

Now, that synastric Mars-Juno-trine might lead one to think there would be considerable strong sexual attraction.
BUT equally important is that this Mars would make a trine to my SAturn, too, which is a "sexual captivation", if I am right (Lara? Is that right?).

So whoever triggers my Juno, doesn`t only get Juno, but also gets my SAturn. It`s just part of the package, if you want it or not.

So I th ink that just judging from isolated interapsects could be misleading.

Another example:

A beautiful sweet loving synastric conjunction of Venus (or Neptune) to Chiron.
Jackpot, or very close to it according to Magi`s interpretations.
And it surely will be sweet and loving and healing.

BUT what if this Chiron-Venus/Neptune conjunction opposes person A`s Saturn and squares person B``s Saturn?
I guess the attraction would still be there with the Chiron conjunction, but you canīt ignore the Saturn clashes. It probably will be pretty painful.

But as they say your heart can only break, if you REALLY are in love.