posted July 17, 2009 01:36 PM         

that's currently in my 8th house quincunx my Venus in 21'47 Scorpio in 3rd
also conjuncting my Moon/MC midpoint in 22'12 Aries and Sedna/Eris midpoint in 22'10 Aries and opposing Solar Arc Ascendant in 21'27 Libra
therefore triggering a solar arc picture
TR Eris = SA Asc = NA Moon/MC = Sedna/Eris

it goes retrograde tomorrow in 21 hours from where I am at.

It seems like a time that matters involving diversity,equality,and ideology are in high focus.

anybody have anything aspected by transiting Eris?

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

posted July 17, 2009 01:46 PM         

i'm pretty vague about eris' meanings and influences off the cuff so i appreciate your input! by the way you read my mind i was going to ask for some deeper insight into eris yesterday and didn't have time!!

i understand its orbit takes about 560 years, that like pluto it is much faster at times than at other times. do you have a rough idea how long it has been in aries? or its basic trajectory round the signs? i think my N eris is in the first decan - if it were a normal, regular orbit it would be about 46 years/sign...but it is only 15 degrees past my natal right now!

posted July 17, 2009 01:59 PM         

these aren't necessarily going by Eris' mythology but also the astronomical,orbital symbolism as well as the studying of charts.
Zane Stein considered that Eris has a Persephone/Proserpina like orbit, and so some of his keywords are based on Persephone/Proserpina.

Philip Sedgwick uses the object's heliocentric north node and perihelion for insight

for instance..North Heliocentric Eris Node is in Taurus and Eris Perihelion is in Libra
so some of his keywords for Eris are based on Taurus and Libra.

Philip Sedgwick's preliminary keywords:

Positive - liberation from addictions to success or status, clear priorities regarding matters of love and money, finally getting you can't take it with you and applying full resourcefulness in life, recognition of the potency of one's energy and life force, clear sense of the sacred marriages: spirit to body, self to Creator, between soulful companions, personal sense of emergence.

Negative - greed, workaholism, believe that you must take over for God, general sense of being forsaken, condemned or abandoned, lack of spiritual regard for life, superficial, status oriented.

Mundane: promises and vows (both kept and broken), elections and election fraud, intervention by higher powers (troubleshooters, authorities, deity or God), using chaos and disruption as a method of reorganization - i.e., dumping a closet onto the floor, then reorganizing, things that overturn, the scales of justice, battles, disputes, famine, fightings, lawlessness (attributed to her moon, Dysnomia), lies, manslayings, murders, oath, oblivion, quarrels - and the last word therein, sorrows and toil, contention, rivalry, loved the spilling of blood on the battlefield, the fifth day of the month, gluttony, gloating, the nurse of war, women wearing men’s uniforms (sports players, women in the military, astronauts)

Ceremonial: capitulation ceremonies, vows to create order from chaos, intent to right wrongdoing, abundance ceremonies http://www.philipsedgwick.com/

Zane Stein's preliminary keywords:
Loss of innocence, entrance into adulthood; child's trauma being separated from parent; acceptance of unavoidable changes; dying and being reborn (as opposed to Pluto which rules the causes/processes of death and rebirth); internal split causing longing to be whole, the longing of the soul for its other half; the subject/object of a debate, argument, competition, conflict or war...what stirs people to fight or disagree; fighting for one's rights; strife and discord; pitting one side against the other; competition, contests and tournaments; struggles for supremacy; rivalry; a test of skills or abilities; love of fighting or debate; what one has at stake in a competition, dispute or conflict, or one's perspective of what is being fought over; refusing to relinquish one's hold on an ideal, belief, cause, or object...'not budging an inch'; the problems resulting from irreconcilable differences; contrasting different perspectives; comparing thesis and antithesis in the search for truth; contrasting opposing viewpoints to reveal each side more clearly, to seek similarities as well as differences; contrasting logical thought processes to show the limitations of logic; identifying with, or trying to understand, first principles; incongruous juxtapositions to force one to think outside of the box; the ethics connected with one's motives and methods, and the coming to light of less than spotless methods; the roots of one's motivations; piracy, defrauding, swindling; society's ethics; race intent.

Roy MacKinnon's preliminary keywords:
Striving to achieve one's goals and refusing to capitulate to the pressure of unjust treatment and discord from abusive authority : with great inner conviction and single-mindedness of purpose following a path of high attainment and enlightenment notwithstanding adversity - alternatively refusing the call to transform with mediocrity and underachievement as consequences: issues around power abuse of minorities, the defenseless, the alien: networks, multinational countries and companies, the world- wide web: piracy, terrorism, clash of ideologies: conflict between desires of personality and pursuit of the inner call: persecution of the spiritually aware person who stands alone courageously acting according to conscience: an outstanding individual ahead of the times.

Francesco Schiavinotto's preliminary keywords:
Dam; Damming; Obstruction; Obliteration; To be opposite; Aversion for the Extraneous; To obstacle the Alien; False Adaption between Different Matters; Reciprocal Aversion; Feeling to be Invaded; Resistance; Incommunicability; Controversial Figure; Ecological Incompatibility; Underground Instability

Jonathan Dunn's preliminary keywords:
mobilization, tirelessness, restlessness, endless energy -
pursuing interests, avoiding boredom sublimated/repressed energy looking for outlets - ultimately the outlet of transcendence itself ...
also: I've seen most people with celibate leanings have strong Eris, though of course this is not the most common manifestation of the energy
Basically, (Carl) Jung believed that mental energy is created through the conflict of opposites. He said, "there is no energy unless there is a tension of opposites" (Jung, Two Essays 63). He called this energy libido. It is to be distinguished from Freud's definition of libido, in that Freud saw it only as pertaining to sexual desire, whereas Jung viewed libido as psychic energy in general. According to Jung, libido is the vital impulse of human life.

Godwin Cooke's preliminary keywords:
Social Actors, Social Conformity, Dominant Social Ideology, the destruction what is old-fashioned for the sake of the fufillment of novel ideas, fitting in with a particular group, devoting your entire being to a particular Ideology, 'political correctness', the march of history, becoming a symbol of something greater than yourself and speaking for that thing; the concealment of or sacrifice of much of one's original individuality in order to gain total acceptance 'as' something, allowing you to by so doing obtain the influence over it to stamp one's remaining individuality onto the character of the thing itself.
http://zanestein.com/keywords.html#Eris

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

posted July 17, 2009 03:14 PM         

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”

posted July 17, 2009 03:49 PM         

it seems like it was around 1929, 1930

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”

posted July 17, 2009 09:32 PM         

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”

posted July 17, 2009 09:49 PM         

woah, I am not sure. You can check out the Eris keywords, and see if that give you any insight.

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”

posted July 18, 2009 01:44 PM         

Eris moves much slower than Saturn,Uranus,Neptune,and Pluto. It orbits beyond those objects.

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”

posted July 20, 2009 12:27 AM         

Here is Zane Stein's article on Eris in The Mountain Astrologer.
http://astynaz.myphotoalbum.com/view_album.php?set_albumName=album05

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”