posted July 20, 2009 02:19 PM         

these last coulple of years have been really difficult for her and basically to all of us,family.

She is a really strong person and till now she showed this same strengh.

Now i am feeling she is slowly giving up of things...her dreams,her relationship with my father,her hopes and her own self-esteem....

see her transits:

- she is having Uranus in her 7Th- problems in her relationship

- Pluto is in her IC - my grandmother passed away when it hit the 1st time

- Tr Mars is cj her Uranus.

- Saturn is passin her 12th....

i see all these nasty ones and i ask:is this why she feels so lost,so defeated by life?

posted July 24, 2009 03:17 PM         

as far as *Do you see any good transits?*
well for 'feel good factor' ..
t.Jupiter is not far off sextiling her IC .. and conjoining her Sun
( i.e. when it goes direct again )

i think the downside to Jupiter is going 'over the top' ..
or being taken over by a potential false feeling of 'everything is going to to be ok' ..
with it conjoining her natal mercury .. it might tend to exaggerate her worries ..

i know my problem with jupiter transits is that ..
i tend to have a mindset of not bothering about financial obligations too much ..
and spending money on 'good times' instead .. obligations can wait 'till another day ..

** Now i am feeling she is slowly giving up of things...her dreams,her relationship with my father,her hopes and her own self-esteem .. **
that to me reeks of challenging ( hard aspect like a square ) t.Pluto to natal Chiron ( plus Saturn thru 12th )
( a friend recently went thru same transit .. more or less was down in the dumps with same/similar issues
( mostly .. depressed about his relationship with his father and other relationships .. and his self worth
( plus one or two other things

and that Uranus transit not be an easy one either ..
yet with natal Mars to natal Uranus ( and maybe plus that rather wide Sun to Uranus )
she will probably be in tune .. in a sense .. to Uranus vibes in any case ..

will probably activate other Chiron aspects in her chart .
( i see she also has her fair share of natal Pluto and Chiron aspects )
the Pluto to Chiron transit transit will be exact december .. 2009 .. and also in close orb september 2010 ..

as with the case with outer planet transits ..
she's likely to feel them when a faster planet makes an aspect to a natal placement

btw: despite there being Lillith in the grid .. she not be on the chart wheel ..
( i noted the Lillith - Pluto aspect in the grid .. )

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" . An outer planet transiting in aspect to a natal planet will activate any natal aspects to that planet. "
( ~ http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/jkbx/h.s.transits.html ~ )

so re the Pluto transit to Chiron .. maybe note her natal Chiron aspects ..
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** these last coulple of years have been really difficult for her **
Pluto has been around for a while ..
i.e. near her IC/MC .. and squaring her Asc/Dsc .. plus the placements near her Asc ..

and also she might be feeling the Pluto opposite natal Saturn as well ..
oh .. nearly missed this one .. t.Pluto be sextiling natal Sun ..

posted July 24, 2009 03:28 PM         

im also having saturn in the 12th - i know how that feels...

well the best thing is that she is used to the uranus thing...thank God...

posted July 24, 2009 04:23 PM         

well that's probably good in the sense you can relate how your mother might feel
i remember feeling quite worrisome when i had the same house transit by saturn ..
sort of like .. background fears of some nature ..
yes i remember that one as fairly depressing on an emotional level ..
( and a pro-astrolger friend saying how he dreaded his upcoming saturn thru 12th transit )

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** kiron...i never looked that one on her chart-you are right...bah she has the turbulent saturn to kiron. **

and that minor aspect to her Sun is 'exact' ..
maybe re-read these ..
Chiron.1 at astro.com
~ http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_chiron_e.htm ~
Chiron.2 at astro.com
~ http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_wounding_e.htm ~

i also have natal Chiron aspecting natal Saturn ( part of a cardinal grand cross )
and when i had my Chiron return ( and it was the first time i'd even heard of Chiron )
i felt as if certain things were now beyond me .. sort of like being 'over the hill' .. in some respects ..
( that feeling was triggered by an attraction to a much younger woman at the time ..
( well .. she kept 'eyeing me up' in plutonic style .. how was i not to notice :-))))
( it also hit me as a non-pro musician .. felt like i was getting too old to be playing rock music 'n such
( i.e. as a guitarist ... ..
Chiron also squares my Venus .. so t.Chiron activated those negative 'self worth feelings .. etc etc
it was a depressing three weeks ..
but .. .. it was only a 'feeling' ..
'cause to my continuing amazement i still get the 'eye-up' from much younger women ..
( yet i've still zero idea as to 'why' .. )
and .. i've not given up playing rock guitar .. in fact that ability improved ( imho )

so yes .. t.Pluto to natal Chiron .. emotionaly difficult one in theory
( i've had the 'square' from tPluto .. i'd relate what i went thru .... but ..
( was 34 years ago .. and it also hit natals Venus - Saturn/Neptune and Uranus ..
( pinning down which part was the Chiron bit .. er .. not easy ..
( suffice to say .. i was wounded emotionaly .. and was probably the 'heaviest' time of my life
( 'heavy' .. as in 'emotionaly intense and hurtful etc etc
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oh .. i mentioned Lillith 'cause i saw the natal aspect .. and i've just been thru t.Lillith square natal Saturn
and was reminded how particularly 'angry' tLillith can make me feel ..
'particular' .. 'cause for me she always feels somewhat Plutonic ..
( but then again .. natal Lillith and natal Pluto both aspect my natal chart-ruler .. miss Moon :-))

so in theory a transit from t.Lillith could intensify those t.Pluto feelings for your mother
( that's a 'maybe'... keep an eye on t.Lillith re your mother's chart .. just in case .. )
her Lillith is in Libra ( connects to 7th and relationships ) ..
and in her 1st house .. ( i.e. keeping in mind 1st house interps .. the 'front door' etc etc )
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( edited to add )

note t.Neptune as well ..
it's fairly close to natal Sun .. but is now retrograde ..
( thinking down the line of 'dreams , wishes and hopes )
so she felt it building up .. but now it's gone retro ..

i'm dealing with t.Neptune square Sun .. but it's re-squaring by retro movement ..
( soon to be joined by t.Chiron square natal Sun .. :-(()
anyhow re hopes 'n wishes .. i had some for my future ..
they were dashed but not completely broken by news i rcvd. on the moon's recent eclipse
( although i did fully expect the bad news )
that lunar eclipse also co-incided with t.Saturn conjunct natal Lillith and square natal Moon
maybe not such a bad thing .. as i've been finding out nasty things about future 'hopes 'n wishes' ..
so have been doing a complete re-think ..

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ooops missed this one as well ..
t.Saturn square natal Moon in your mother's chart

posted July 24, 2009 10:52 PM         

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posted July 25, 2009 07:13 AM         

seems that she is being hit by all at once-she seems very depressed and with no hopes or dreams now...

Belgz
really?

how do you feel saturn on your 12Th then?i know it is supposed to let out all our inner skeletons/fears/secrets...

SO Uranus on your DSC didnt made changes on your relationship?no break-ups?

yes,she is still grieving.she was very attatched to my Grandmom...she was a really good mother,and a very nice and amourous person to have close to us.