posted March 20, 2010 10:20 AM         

Remember my Aries stellium before you pick an Aries AC!

posted March 20, 2010 10:44 AM         

Ami

posted March 20, 2010 10:48 AM         

I never used to be... self taught

posted March 20, 2010 11:25 AM         

I'm gonna go with Aries ASC just cos i am and you got a square, prominent chin, the high wide cheekbones and that nose and the
"i'm so feminine but dont mess with me buddy."

You got the "nearly" same features as me. Diff astrological placements would obviously make the diffs but i DO have my Venus in Taurus as well as my Aries ASC.

The square angular face..very me (and you)

Your eyes say something different though, like Taurus or something else. Your eyes are DEFINITELY not your ASC though.

xx

I swear you could be my aunty or their youngest sister (aunty an sun Aries lol, mama is a Pisces who turned 46 last Thurs who has planets in Aries and Taurus)

My b!tchy kickas$ wonderwoman auntie (44 in April) and my beautiful Piscean (with planets in Aries AND Taurus) goddess mother (46 last Thurs).
You could seriously be their youngest sister with an Anglo daddy but same mama(American, English or Aussie daddy I mean, they were had a Greek mama and papa).

posted March 20, 2010 11:30 AM         

awww Diablo! You are so kind! Thank you. your family are so beautiful WOW
I can be your online Aunty

I think i'm late Pisces with that Aries influence. I just don't feel Aries at all and i guess my saying "i don't feel" screams Pisces haha

posted March 20, 2010 11:42 AM         

Now i know why i feel such an affinity to you..my mama's Sun is in Pisces, Asc in Capricorn (but it may be diff cos g'ma remembers it all an hour earlier and mama's are always right), her Mercury in Aries, Jupiter in Aries, Chiron in Aries (the only time I've seen mama stand up and roar like a mama lion is when she's had to protect me, otherwise she is just a lamb in all other aspects) with her Moon in Taurus.

posted March 20, 2010 01:20 PM         

forget my chart! I am so not a 12th house person - seriously. I am so expressive, expansive and totally uninhibited. I don't have anything in common with the 12th house.

posted March 20, 2010 01:22 PM         

It's also possibility you're much stronger in transneptunian energy overall which indicate more intensity,sensitivity,depth,and overall highly metaphysical orientation.
Especially Sedna that is the most otherworldly.

This could especially be with transneptunian aspects to the Midheaven,Moon,and/or Ascendant that require accurate birthtime to know if they are in aspect within 3 degrees.

Also a certain degree in Aries could have you with transneptunian dwarf planet,Eris conjunct the Ascendant within 3 degrees. If it's wide, it can be conjunct the Ascendant within 3 degrees in Right Ascension. That could also indicate intensity,depth,nonconformity,and metaphysical orientation.

If Pluto in 12th is a highly metaphysical placement, then it would make sense for the larger,more outer Eris in 12th to be just as metaphysical. The same could be said for their fellow dwarf planets, Makemake and Haumea placed in 12th...even Sedna,2007 OR10 "Snow White",Orcus,Quaoar,Ixion,and Varuna.

Orcus would have been in Cancer at the time of your birth,and that could be square an Aries Ascendant within 3 degrees which could be very similar to a Pluto-Ascendant. Orcus is a plutino like Pluto,and so it is similar both astronomically and astrologically.

I don't put much emphasis on house placements which Cosmobiologists don't even use.

also 12th house can be things like psychism,collective unconscious,selfless service

the selfless service can involve being in the public.

Evolutionary Astrologer, Maurice Fernandez pointed out many people in public service,politics have something significant in the 12th house.

He also believes that Neptune,12th house,Pisces has something to do with one's career in regards to one's calling.

Whole sign house system will put any planets that are in the same sign as the ascendant but in 12th house in other houses systems as being in the 1st house.

It really depends on the house system.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted March 20, 2010 01:32 PM         

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I am so expressive, expansive and totally uninhibited.

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But that's not what the 12th house is about, anyway. And you said you feel rather Piscean, which gives you something in common with the 12th lol.

Like, here is a description of Venus in the 12th:

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Venus in the 12th House

You are big on romance and you tend to live and breathe your partner once you�re hooked. Not the best at defining your boundaries�where your needs and your partner�s needs separate�you can get hurt in love rather easily. You can also feel used quite readily. You are attracted to people from all walks of life, finding a partner who has an unusual background or quirky personality most attractive. Partners who mistake your compassion for weakness can take advantage of you. Being openly affectionate and trusting often doesn't seem safe to you. You may feel your love won't be appreciated or reciprocated. You may get involved in secret love affairs or fall in love with a person who is quite unavailable to you at different points in your life. Love and sacrifice often seem to go hand in hand for you - having to give something up to be with the one you love, or having to relinquish some person or some aspect of an important love relationship. You value a certain amount of self-sacrifice and a giving attitude in a partner, as you embody these traits. You can be quite mysterious to others, even if you don�t mean to be, because your romantic needs are kept hidden. Although you are quite naturally drawn to relationships that are unusual, secret, challenging, and unequal, do take the time to examine why this may be the case. Be certain that you are not, in some way, punishing yourself because you don�t feel worthy of an equal and public relationship. Because Venus represents attraction, and the twelfth house is associated with the feet, your feet may be especially attractive and/or erogenous zones!

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