posted March 27, 2010 10:35 AM         

I'd say it to everyone I see as fiery.

posted March 27, 2010 10:41 AM         

Save your chart first.. Delete the data on Paint. Then upload it on photobucket.com and post the link.

posted March 27, 2010 01:17 PM         

Yeah the cookbook interpetations make us sound almost inhuman and unrelateable at times and nitpicking as a negative makes people uncomfortable because no one wants to be under a microscope, it's almost like Scorpios but they get the cookie cutter interp "sexual prowless" to cover up or what not to those who just know basic Sun Signs but thank goodness we here at LL look deeper the Sun Signs...anyways..

I like the earthy sentuality mixed with mercurian wit and the oh so subtle.."***** " side of the virgin lol..

I guess the older I get the more comfortable I am being a Virgo, should have seen me when I first started astrololy..yeesh.and damn that Pisces Moon.

posted March 27, 2010 01:28 PM         

That's a powerful lunar aspect. People with Cancers have nothing on you imho. I don't put much emphasis on zodiac signs which are dependent on what zodiac system that is being used. Cyril Fagan and Vedic Astrologers use the Sidereal Zodiac System. I put a lot more emphasis on aspects.

Nobody would discount that Moon conjunct the Imum Coeli as not being significant regardless of what the zodiac sign is in.
Technically your Moon is oppose/conjunct the Midheaven/Imum Coeli axis. Mainstream Astrologers view the Midheaven as the 10th house cusp,relating to career,social status. Cosmobiologists and Uranian Astrologers view the Midheaven as the most important thing in the chart. They view it as the individual self,The "I", the aim of life, the brain proper, the minute,the moment.

also you have Moon conjunct Venus, and

look at it from Venus' perspective, you value Lunar things.

another thing

Your Sun is conjunct Black Moon Lilith.

All Black Moon Lilith is the lunar apogee (the farthest point of the Moon's orbit from the Earth). The opposite point of Black Moon Lilith is the lunar perigree which is the closest point of the Moon's orbit to the Earth.

Therefore,your Sun is oppose/conjunct the Lunar Perigree/Apogee axis. Therefore you're Sun is strongly connected to lunar energy,symbolism.

Your Sun oppose/conjunct the Lunar Nodal axis which are based on the Moon's orbital plane. That's also strongly connected to lunar energy,symbolism

You were born with the Lunar Nodes and Lunar Perigree/Apogee axis aligned with each other with the Sun opposing. That's a very uncommon configuration.

no wonder you feel like a Cancer

btw...I have Sun in the Constellation of Virgo which is the largest of the 13 zodiac constellations. I was born the 2nd to the last day of Virgo.

My Ascendant/Descendant in 13'27 Virgo/Pisces is almost exactly/trine your Ascendant/Descendant and close opposition to your Lunar Nodes. Your Sun is conjunct/oppose my Ascendant/Descendant.

I am amazed at all the strong connections that we Lindalanders have with each other!

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Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement

posted March 27, 2010 01:45 PM         

Sometimes I don't understand why people just stop at Sun Signs, aspects are so amazing to learn and I won't dispute "feeling like a Cancer" because I feel like a Capricorn because I was born on a 8 day and my chart ruler is Saturn in the 1st house.

posted March 27, 2010 01:49 PM         

benedict, what's virgoan? it sounds a little bizarre but i dont get along well with virgo's.. they make me extremely uncomfortable and i dont like to be around them much and for one reason or another we always part ways but i take it to be because of my node in virgo..

posted March 27, 2010 02:05 PM         

I overlooked something.

Your Moon is the planet of oriental appearance. It was the first planet to rise immediately before the Sun. It's your guiding planet. It's very important in your life.

YOUR GUIDING PLANET Discover Your Innate Skills and Inner Faculties by Michael R. Myer

Each of us possess guiding qualities and innate skills
bestowed to help us fulfill our special destiny as individuals and as purposeful members of humanity. But conditions pervading in our schools, offices and factories, and the conforming pressures of society, usually conspire to force us to into predetermined molds, with little regard for our special faculties and talents, unless they happen to be useful in the business world. As a result, our inner faculties — our individual guiding compass that helps us navigate our own special way through both the calm and the stormy seas of life to our ultimate, fullest destination — is often inadequately developed, or family and social conditions may predispose us to ignore, suppress or distrust our guiding voice.
In a less abstract and more practical way, each of us have a stock of innate special talents and skills which we may develop and exploit in life, or which may lie largely dormant or latent, flashing forth at moments of great need, crisis or inspiration. Most of us have a knack for something. One person may have a knack for getting along with people and self-promotion, another a special gift for teaching, counseling and helping others, and yet another may have a creative talent which is best expressed working alone in her studio or at the keyboard of her computer. Yet few of us are fortunate enough to find ourselves involved in the sort of work or study where we both naturally excel and find personal fulfillment and happiness.
If you want to get closer in tune with your inner guiding faculties, or if you're one of the many who are frustrated with your current line of work and are not quite sure where your special skills lie, or if you are considering a career change, the easy-to-use astrological technique presented here will help you both tune into and enhance your inner guiding voice and discover your innate skills and faculties and how to best apply them.
According to humanistic astrology, your entire birth-chart — the natal horoscope — is a seed-pattern of your birth potential, and any thorough interpretation of an astrological chart requires tuning into the chart "as a whole," as well as a consideration of how the individual planets — the ten fundamental variables of astrology – fit into the whole chart. Traditional, old-fashioned, natal astrology – which is, unfortunately, as strong and visible today as ever — usually places most of its attention on the signs occupied by the planets and the connections existing between one planet and another (the astrological aspects), with loads of baggage attached to where the "malefics" (the "bad guys" of astrology, the planets Mars and Saturn) are placed and how they hook-up with other planets. On the other hand, humanistic astrology shows that there are no good or bad planets, signs or aspects. Without Mars — the principle of mobilization – we couldn't act or move! Without Saturn – the principle of form and definition – we would be formless blobs of "mostly water" lacking individuality and a distinct function or character of being.

Humanistic astrology focuses on the core factors of an astrological chart, avoiding an overload of secondary and tertiary data and the side-issues specious data sidetrack us into obsessing about. Humanistic astrology has developed lots of simple and easy-to-use procedures, all dealing with core principles and issues, which allow us to learn and discover a very great deal which is usually entirely overlooked by or unknown to the mainstream, traditional astrologer. The procedure we'll explore here concerns the determination and interpretation of your Guiding Planet or Skill Symbol.
From ancient times, the planet crossing the eastern horizon — the astrological Ascendant — immediately before the Sun has symbolized the practical channel through which solar will and vitality is expressed. The ancients called this body the "Planet of Oriental Appearance" because it appears in the eastern sky immediately before the Sun — that is, the planet rising directly before the Sun. Today, we refer to the Planet of Oriental Appearance at your birth time as your Guiding Planet or your Skill Symbol, because it represents both your inner guiding principle and your innate skills and special faculties, and how both may be best realized, enhanced and applied. Your Skill Symbol shows you how to best handle and cope with the demands and opportunities of daily life in a skillful, productive and fulfilling manner, and where your inherent skills and practical abilities lie. As your Guiding Planet, the planet rising immediately before the Sun symbolizes the faculties and inner senses scouting your path ahead, or your ability to navigate the best course to self-realization and fulfillment.
In other words, as Skill Symbol the Planet of Oriental Appearance is seen in its more mundane aspect, as abilities and skills that can be tapped and applied for practical results; as Guiding Planet, the same body shows it more abstract aspect, operating on a more intuitive or instinctual level, and less in terms of immediate practical application than in terms of one’s destiny or life as a whole. And usually the balance is more one than the other, so we are often challenged to integrate both sides — the practical and the intuitive — of the planet’s principles and functions.
Finding your Planet of Oriental Appearance is easy. If you have a copy of your birth-chart, simply look to see which planet immediately precedes the Sun in a clockwise direction. If you haven't gotten around to having your birth-chart calculated, you can find your Oriental Planet by referring to an ephemeris for the day and year of your birth. Your Oriental Planet is the planet immediately preceding the Sun in the zodiac. For example, if the ephemeris shows your Sun as 22 degrees Scorpio and Neptune is shown as 10 degrees Libra, Neptune would be your Planet of Oriental Appearance — if there are no other planets between 10 degrees Libra and 22 degrees Scorpio. The depictions which follow describe each of the nine planets (the Sun is never in Oriental Appearance) when acting as a Guiding Planet and Skill Symbol.
http://www.khaldea.com/planets/oriental_intro.shtml

Moon Guiding Planet

You have a special knack for practicality and keeping things running smoothly. The busy teacher, housekeeper and the resourceful manager are examples of this type — their day is full of interruptions, adjustments and problem-solving. You can best handle situations by going straight into the heart of the matter and gently taking control. Your forte is an ability to cope with a constant stream of demands and quickly changing priorities. Moon Skill Symbol people are often do well in the fields of education and counseling. On the other hand, you may be prone to obsessiveness, over-work and criticism, tendencies which may be balanced or moderated by keeping the big picture and your ultimate goals in the forefront.
As Guiding Planet, the Moon symbolizes a reflective mind highly sensitive to everything in the environment and to the ever-changing flow of life and events. It places us in touch with our root power, which has a natural source, grounded in nature and natural activity. Yet the busy managerial and organizing functions of Moon as Skill Symbol, or its tendency to focus on the needs and requirements of others, may get in the way of tuning into your own needs and the larger issues and currents operating beneath the pressing demands of your often quickly changing mundane life. To serve us as a Guiding Planet, the Moon asks one to schedule quiet time for meditation or for a peaceful and relaxing nature walk.

The birth-chart of novelist Henry Miller features Moon Oriental, rising about seventy degrees before the Sun, in the seventh house of relatedness and conjunct the south lunar node, Mars, and Uranus. Henry Miller spent much of his later years living a simple life in a cabin on the remote Big Sur coast of California. His banned books did much to compensate for the puritanical shame of the body and sexuality which played such a large part in the American morality of his time.
The liberator of India, Mahandas Gandhi, was born when the Sun was unaspected (humanistic astrologers use somewhat tight orbs, revealing a clearer picture), and much of his solar power seems to have expressed through the Oriental Moon in the tenth house (politics and public life) Leo. With Moon as his Guiding Planet, Gandhi was able to sense precisely what was needed at the moment and he was utterly dedicated to his destiny of winning independence for his people. As Skill Symbol, the Moon symbolizes the organizational and gentle managerial skills, and a capacity for tuning into the needs and abilities of anyone, required to unify a very large and diverse nation and to gear its people to act in unison for a common goal.
The natal horoscope of J. Krishnamurti shows Moon Oriental, but a very great distance from the Sun, 145 degrees, forming a bi-quintile aspect between the two. The chart as a whole depicts a sharp "see-saw" pattern, comprising two opposed planetary groups, with the Sun and the Moon acting as a member of a planetary pair "enclosing" each of the two groups. Additionally, the two groups are situated one above and one below the horizon. Indeed, from the chart’s planetary gestalt, the Moon seems to be in too strong contrast to the Sun to figure as a scout or guide, too much space seems to "separate" the two bodies. And Krishnamutri’s somewhat rigid, mentally crystallized philosophy and outlook, which seems much rooted in negativism and denial, tends to speak from a natal Taurus Mercury conjunct the Nadir, rising seven degrees after the Sun, and from a natal Saturn retrograde in the ninth house. Even if the Oriental Moon seems estranged and not fully functional as Guiding Planet, much of Krishnamurti’s deeper side suggests he was connected with it beneath the surface. For instance, Krishnamurti was always very much interested in education and nourishing the mind and spirit, which ties in with Moon as Skill Symbol. He established several innovated schools worldwide, and founded Happy Valley School in Ojai Valley with his friend Aldous Huxley. Krishnamurti also had a deep appreciate of and trust in women, and in spite of his guru, holy man role, he conducted a secret thirty-year liaison with a woman, a relationship he evidently found so fulfilling that he wanted to continue it into his later years.
The birth-chart of early woman of rock Stevie Nicks features an Oriental Moon in the tenth house rising a great distance before a second house Gemini Sun. She wrote a song titled "Sister of the Moon" in the late-70s when her fame was of the first magnitude and she epitomized the "witchy woman." Stephanie's Oriental Moon is opposite natal Venus on the nadir, and natal Neptune near the Descendant link-up with the two to form a T-Square.

Moon Skill Symbol people are skillful at adapting and adjusting to the demands of daily life and ever-shifting priorities. As Guiding Planet, the Moon asks us to get in touch with our natural selves, to take time out from the pressures of mundane life so our natural, unconditioned instincts and intuition may be sensed.
http://www.khaldea.com/planets/oriental_moon.shtml

Uranus is my planet of oriental appearance.

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Raymond

Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement

posted March 27, 2010 02:07 PM         

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BM- Lol you've caught me I use to want to be a kick arse fire sign when I started out but Leo Stellium Rx or not will do..give me that fiery burning passion deep inside those close to me "definately" see it and thats all that matters I guess.
Sometimes I don't understand why people just stop at Sun Signs, aspects are so amazing to learn and I won't dispute "feeling like a Cancer" because I feel like a Capricorn because I was born on a 8 day and my chart ruler is Saturn in the 1st house.

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Yeah, alot of people are guilty of it (especially those of us born under more 'difficult' signs) but that's because mainstream astrology doesn't do justice to alot of signs when they're describing them. They don't care that Virgoans has amazing analytcal skills but would rather focus on them being nitpicky...which is just the bad side. They also don't care that Cancerians are the greatest empaths/emotional psychics but would rather sell that we're whiny or cheap or have no goals in life besides being a mother and wife.

posted March 27, 2010 02:13 PM         

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I've known six Virgos in life and none of them ever want to claim being a Virgo..on astrology forums Virgos don't wanna be Virgos..

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That's so true.

posted March 27, 2010 02:34 PM         

shrugs

I strongly disagree with that. I believe that it depends on what else is going on in the chart. That's like saying that Pisceans are the greatest mystics,psychics (Neptune is the planet that rules Pisces),Scorpions are the greatest psychoanalysts,deceptives and that Geminis are are the greatest communicators and the most verstatile.

also...there are people that don't use the tropical zodiac, and so many Cancerians would be viewed as Geminis and many Virgos viewed as Leos, depending on what degree it's in the zodiac.

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Raymond

Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement

posted March 27, 2010 02:44 PM         

Like for example I have Mars opposition Moon and I have known 3 people with Mars opposition Moon but we all have that opposition in different signs and the issues of opposition differ from eachother..

Like I really feel the on-going struggle of my Virgoan/Piscean energies inside and the issues of that differ from my friend who is Scorpio/Taurus,

posted March 27, 2010 02:46 PM         

You're very welcome.

You probably have the strongest lunar theme that I have ever seen in a chart.

1. Moon oppose/conjunct Midheaven/Imum Coeli axis
2. Lunar Nodes conjunct the Lunar Perigree/Lunar Apogee axis
3. Sun oppose/conjunct the Lunar Nodes
4. Sun oppose/conjunct the Lunar Perigree/Apogee axis
5. Moon, the planet of oriental appearance

It's no wonder that you can strongly relate to Cancer. It's not in your head. It's in your chart. You have an ultra strong Lunar influence that nobody can deny. It's like reflecting the very essence of you,pervading all your being. It's like you're strongly synchronized with the Moon,its movements,its phases. An ultra sensitive,emotional,intuitive,nurturing nature.

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Raymond

Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement

posted March 27, 2010 02:52 PM         

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I sometimes feel at "home" where my astrological placements are though and it took some deep soul reflecting to come to feeling like this but I really do and the more I look at my chart the more I feel that "at home" feel.

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Yeah, same here...what I've realized though is that all these placements are ME, they just represent different aspects, even if they clash.

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Like I really feel the on-going struggle of my Virgoan/Piscean energies inside and the issues of that differ from my fried who is Scorpio/Taurus,

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posted March 27, 2010 03:17 PM         

-my grandmother's a cancer
. she was abandoned at a convent and raised by nuns. she has sun and pluto in cancer i believe in her fifth house.

-my mother's a pisces
. her sun is exactly in conjunction with node opposing my sun. pluto in leo.

oh well, look at that.. i thought there'd be more but nope.. other than ii'm basically here due to a freak accident, there's not much to tell.. my grandmother was the product of non consensual sex with at the time was a 13 yr old girl, who didn't know she was pregnant until it was a bit too late and gave birth to her in new york while on a trip from venezuela. my grandmother, american.

she was left at the convent in venezuela and once she was old enough, left and married a rebel and together, they birthed 8 kids. 6 girls 2 boys. later, he died.

family moved to cuba. i was born. if it wasn't for my grandmother's citizenship, we would never have been able to have left the country.

about 5 or 6 years later, we're in the u.s. we lived with an aunt of mine who is also a cancer for a short while. basically, our entire family circle is solely on the maternal side. moving has been a major role in my life. within the time period of living here i've counted up to 21 times.