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Topic: fast speech!!not from scorpio mercury
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changchiu Knowflake Posts: 390 From: Registered: Dec 2009
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posted July 11, 2010 01:50 PM
I had a presentation last friday at job.. everything was good until somebody told me 'you are vey fast,how many words talking in one minute' but also he added;'you think fast,so words dont run'.. That is not my from scorpio mercury..it can not be..also my sun scorpio..scorpio always in control but not fast.. may be mercury in 11 th house.but is it causes that.. I can not relate also my moon aries.. any comments??thanks..with love.. Changchiu IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 3769 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 11, 2010 02:04 PM
I have Mercury in Scorpio in 3rd, and I can have rapid speech from cluttering connected to my neurodivergence of Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,ADHD. It got me misdiagnosed as having bipolar because rapid speech is a known symptom of mania. I think that it's my Uranus conjunct Mercury/Ascendant midpoint. They aspect each other via the 11th harmonic which is associated with 11th harmonic,Uranus,Aquarius. I also have an 11th harmonic isosceles trapezoid of Mercury,Uranus,Saturn,and transneptunian dwarf planet candidate Sedna. My Mercury oppose Saturn/Sedna midpoint wouldn't suggest fast talking......11th harmonic triangle my Sedna oppose Mercury/Uranus midpoint definitely could........11th harmonic triangle My Mercury has a faster than average daily travel.
The average daily speed for Mercury is 59 minutes, 14 seconds My Mercury's daily speed is 1 degree, 31 minutes ------------------ Raymond Andrews, President,Executive Director of Developmental Neurodiversity Association Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement A Different Mind Is Not A Deficient Mind. http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=ts IP: Logged |
changchiu Knowflake Posts: 390 From: Registered: Dec 2009
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posted July 11, 2010 02:11 PM
Glaucus; Hýmm.in 3 rd house mercury exactly explain your fast speech.. my scorpio sun conj uranus scorpio in 12 th house.. MC Libra in 10 th house..that does not relate also..may be from my brain functions IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 3769 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 11, 2010 02:27 PM
I am kinda skeptical about house placements. I think it's the travel rate of my Mercury and the geometrical/harmonic configurations that my Mercury is involved in. ------------------ Raymond Andrews, President,Executive Director of Developmental Neurodiversity Association Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement A Different Mind Is Not A Deficient Mind. http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=ts IP: Logged |
racole12 Knowflake Posts: 283 From: Cincinnati, OH, USA Registered: Feb 2010
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posted July 11, 2010 02:35 PM
changchiu can you put your chart up?I have a fast thought process/speech, but Mercury is the ruler of my chart, with it being in Sag, 6th house... plus it is getting triggered by a handful of other planets as well. IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 3769 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 11, 2010 02:44 PM
" have a fast thought process/speech, but Mercury is the ruler of my chart"same here I have Virgo Ascendant. ------------------ Raymond Andrews, President,Executive Director of Developmental Neurodiversity Association Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement A Different Mind Is Not A Deficient Mind. http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=ts IP: Logged |
changchiu Knowflake Posts: 390 From: Registered: Dec 2009
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posted July 11, 2010 02:49 PM
Racole12 ;here is my natal.. IP: Logged |
changchiu Knowflake Posts: 390 From: Registered: Dec 2009
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posted July 11, 2010 02:51 PM
wow my 10 th house heavy loaded..It explain exactly my job ambition IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 3769 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 11, 2010 03:26 PM
I checked your chart with Solar Fire Your Mercury's daily speed is 57 minutes,27 seconds. Therefore, it is a little slower than the average speed of 59 minutes, 14 seconds.
You have Uranus conjunct Mercury/Ascendant midpoint just like I do. That could be the indicator for rapid speech.
Your Mercury is in opposition to transneptunian dwarf planet candidate, Sedna in 6'01 Taurus. That indicates the possibility of "far-out" and evolutionary intensified thinking which can involve you and others.
Your Mercury quintile Pluto with 26 minutes of arc indicate a creative,transformative,evolutionary intensified mind.
Your Mercury semisquare Neptune with 1'07 orb could indicate some ability to imagine and visualize. It could also indicate some confusion at times which can lead to miscommunications.
this is unrelated but I felt the need to point this out:
Your Moon is conjunct Eris in 14'15 Eris with only 5 minutes of arc. That's a highly significant aspect. It's almost exact. Eris is a transneptunian dwarf planet that is larger than its fellow transneptunian dwarf planet Pluto. Its discovery and its larger size is what led to Pluto being stripped of its planetary status. Eris is named after Greek Goddess of Discord which was an appropriate name because its discovery led to astronomers and other arguing about Pluto's planetary status. Mythological Eris made men quarrel and fight by making them thinking their opinions are right and others are wrong. It can be about diversity. Eris led to not only the demotion of Pluto but also the promotion of Ceres which was once classed a planet for half a century. Therefore, Pluto and Ceres are equals as dwarf planets because of Eris' discovery. Eris can be about not only discord and controversy but also equality and diversity. Eris challenges the status quo and turns it upside down and redefines it. It's orbit is highly elliptical and orbits off the ecliptic for its a scattered disk object. Therefore, it's a highly nonconformist object that makes Uranus look conventional. As a transneptunian dwarf planet, Eris is also about evolutionary intensification. so the themes of diversity,equality,controversy,and discord as well as nonconformity,evolutionary intensification are pretty much huge themes in regards to matters ruled by the Moon like emotional nature, feelings, unconscous,nurturing women including especially mother. As a transneptunian dwarf ------------------ Raymond Andrews, President,Executive Director of Developmental Neurodiversity Association Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement A Different Mind Is Not A Deficient Mind. http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=ts IP: Logged |
changchiu Knowflake Posts: 390 From: Registered: Dec 2009
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posted July 11, 2010 03:33 PM
Glaucus; Thanks so much.. you have good points..I think now you mentioned 'evolutionary intensified mind' In 2-3 point you said that..what is that exactly?
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changchiu Knowflake Posts: 390 From: Registered: Dec 2009
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posted July 11, 2010 03:39 PM
Also ; Eris conj Moon in women;make her more intensify?I understand right??IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 3769 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 11, 2010 03:44 PM
I also want to point out that just because a person speaks rapidly doesn't mean that he/she thinks in words rapidly.It could just be something about the motor output I can speak rapidly, but I don't think in words rapidly.
Word/verbal thinking is not my primary mode of thinking. It's secondary. Picture/visual thinking is my primary mode of thinking. I can rapidly think in pictures. Even though visual/picture thinkers tend to be mistook for slow thinkers by verbal/word thinkers, Visual/Picture thinking is actually much faster than verbal/word thinking.
here is a youtube video of somebody that speaks rapidly and is mainly a visual/picture thinker. It's high functioning Autistic Temple Grandin. She is not Aspergers even though she is high functioning and can communicate in words well. She had delays in speech in childhood just like people with autism. She benefited from speech therapy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn_9f5x0f1Q
I also had delays in speech in childhood connected to my Dyslexia and Dyspraxia. I benefited from speech therapy.
Therefore fast speaking doesn't necessary mean fast word thinking.
It could just be the motor output of the speech is fast.
I also have poor sense of time, and so I don't know if I am speaking too slow or too fast. My perception of fast and slow is much different from others.
Therefore it's the poor sense of time and motor output that factor in my rapid speech. Rapid word thinking is not a factor because I don't have that ability. Rapid picture thinking is a totally different story. ------------------ Raymond Andrews, President,Executive Director of Developmental Neurodiversity Association Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement A Different Mind Is Not A Deficient Mind. http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=ts IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 3769 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 11, 2010 03:57 PM
I like the idea that Philip Sedgwick said about transneptunian dwarf planets and dwarf planet candidates.He referred to them as evolutionary intensified objects. Evolutionary suggests that emotional and spiritual crisis induced by the presence and passage of these bodies intends to enhance the insight, inspiration, creativity and consciousness of a person on Earth and through events on Earth containing these bodies in significant locations. Therefore,people with strong transneptunian energy seem to have evolutionary intensified lessons/experiences that make or break them. ------------------ Raymond Andrews, President,Executive Director of Developmental Neurodiversity Association Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement A Different Mind Is Not A Deficient Mind. http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=ts IP: Logged |
Dy-na-mi-tee Knowflake Posts: 322 From: Cloud 22, Jupiter Ave, Lalaland Registered: Jun 2010
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posted July 11, 2010 07:26 PM
The only thing I could think of is Uranus. My speech is pretty fast and I have Mercury square Uranus. But your Merc is unaspected which is interesting -- Do you always talk fast or was it nerves maybe?IP: Logged |
Diana Knowflake Posts: 1937 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted July 11, 2010 08:38 PM
Your merc is unaspected so it is a wild card. It also disposes to pluto in libra, which disposes to venus in libra, hence giving you the speech characteristics of a libra, which is air and fast, usually. IP: Logged |
scrappydog Knowflake Posts: 351 From: Texas Registered: May 2009
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posted July 11, 2010 11:02 PM
I have an angular mercury conj uranus in scorpio, it's in the 7th h, but I don't have rapid speech at all, maybe bacause it's closely semi squared to saturn? I am usually a good orater though, whenever I'm with others and some "talkin" has to be done, I'm usually the one chosen to do the "talking".IP: Logged |
GypseeWind Moderator Posts: 3676 From: Dayton,Ohio USA Registered: May 2009
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posted July 12, 2010 03:18 AM
I have the same problem. And when I moved from the East coast to the Midwest, people reallllly looked at me funny. I had to teach myself to speak slower, which doesn't always work, especially if it's an interesting topic. IP: Logged |
changchiu Knowflake Posts: 390 From: Registered: Dec 2009
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posted July 12, 2010 12:48 PM
Dear Dynamitee and Diana; You said unaspected Mercury?What is it?Sometimes I don t talk for hours;then suddenly I can talk for hours like telling long stories with long sentences.. Also;when I talking I always visualise or somebody talking I imagine immediately.. IP: Logged |
Ami Ann Knowflake Posts: 2030 From: US Registered: Dec 2009
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posted July 12, 2010 01:00 PM
Look up unaspected planets. I have an unaspected Venus. Some people see it as "good". Other people see it as "bad" I think it is that the planet can do it's own thing. It is not pulled by other planets (through aspects) so it is a very independent person, so to speak. I could see where this could be good or bad. Please feel free to correct me ,anyone Ami ------------------ I am two with nature. Eighth House Stellium IP: Logged |
changchiu Knowflake Posts: 390 From: Registered: Dec 2009
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posted July 12, 2010 02:02 PM
Ami You are so sweet..I understand exactly..IP: Logged |
bopbop Knowflake Posts: 248 From: USA Registered: Jun 2009
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posted July 12, 2010 03:19 PM
changchiu, I know someone with a Scorpio Mercury that has no major aspects as well, and they also have very fast speech, and a quick mind. Same you describe!Unaspected planets are intensified because they have no connection or "strings" attached to other planets in the chart. They become obvious that way... so your manner of speaking is forefront (also being in the 11th house, a "public" place ruled by Uranus). So I concur with Ami. IP: Logged |
popcorn Knowflake Posts: 1144 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted July 12, 2010 09:18 PM
I'm speak fast. I've stellium merk conj uranus conj pluto in virgo.I love to speak and also like to speak about other people but not in a bad way. My stellium square my moon in gemini.. My venus in gemini so I love to speak about everything to everyone all the time. Sometimes I say to people they must say to me to be quiet when they dont want to hear me. IP: Logged |
BlueTopaz124 Knowflake Posts: 165 From: Portland, OR, USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 12, 2010 10:11 PM
I have a Scorpio Mercury 12th house and also have a very quick mind and talk fast. Sag Sun, Asc and Mars, doesn't help, it's like I'm always off to the races, lol. Seriously. The only time I'm not talking fast is when learning something new or in a group. Then it's the opposite and I'm observing everyone and tend not to get my point across well if someone asks me a question...groups of people tend to make me nervous and I'd rather not be the center of attention. IP: Logged |
angel100 Knowflake Posts: 174 From: Ireland Registered: Nov 2009
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posted July 13, 2010 06:07 AM
I have virgo ascendant so mercury is my chart ruler. My mercury is in scorpio in the third house widely conjunct pluto and squared by jupiter in aquarius...my speech is not too slow, not too fast and I've always been told that I am excellent at public speaking as I am so clear and easy to understand?IP: Logged |