posted August 26, 2010 01:28 PM         

She is the gf of my best guy friend. He and I have been friends for over 12 years. He calls me out of the blue yesterday to give me this long speech about how we have to end our friendship out of respect for his girlfriend. It sounded like he was reading off a script. Of course I told him she is insecure, paranoid, and crazy. Then all of a sudden I hear her voice on the line. She made him call me and tell me "the speech" on threeway while she listened. (What are we in high school or something?) She then started SCREAMING at me, really shreeking about how I'm a desperate, single mom who won't leave him alone and is trying to ruin their relationship. This rant of personal insults towards me went on for about 15 uninterrupted minutes where I sat at my desk at work...in shock but oddly couldn't stop laughing. She went on to tell stories of things that happened between him and I that were completely untrue and downright crazy. When he denied the stories, she started cursing him out too.

At one point she sounded possessed, and I really thought she may try to hurt me or him in some way.

Anyway, I thought it might be interesting to share the chart of this insecure, highly possessive, crazy girl. Just for kicks, and maybe some educational purposes!

Sorry, but birth time is unknown.

posted August 26, 2010 01:43 PM         

OMG, she has pluto and moon conjunct in libra.....if i were to guess what that means (a very sketchy guess) i would say she should have intense yet balanced emotions....that couldnt be further from the truth!!!

posted August 26, 2010 01:44 PM         

I definitely wouldn't want people posting my chart, asking what my indicators for having those traits. I will be like "WTF!!!

my exgf Meghann didn't want me to have female friends too, and I respected that.
She has Moon-Saturn in Scorpio conjunct Pluto. She has an unaspected Venus in Taurus in 2nd.

some people just don't believe in having friends with the opposite sex. I see no problem with that. To each, his/her own.

yes..the Venus in Scorpio could indicate jealousy and possessive, depends on the person.

I have Venus in Scorpio, and I don't care if I had a partner that is friends with other men.
Maybe it's my Mars in Aquarius which squares my Venus. Maybe it's my unaspected Uranus in Libra

Maybe it's my Venus-Jupiter oppose/conjunct Heliocentric Uranus Nodes in my Heliocentric Chart (Higher Self).

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No..I am not a Virgo.

posted August 26, 2010 01:48 PM         

but you don't have her birthtime to know if she has that aspect or not

my exgf has that aspect,and I wouldn't say that she was crazy,psycho. Yes...she's possessive, but that doesn't necessarily mean that she's mentally ill

I am very sure that there are lindalanders that have that aspect and aren't like either

I don't like using Astrology to judge people's shortcomings and overall character

I certainly wouldn't want people do that to me.

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No..I am not a Virgo.

posted August 26, 2010 02:22 PM         

Being a triple Gem, I don't understand why people can't have friends of the opposite sex, if in fact they are JUST friends.
And I am all for "to each their own", but to force my guy friend to call me, then start making up wild stories, then curse us both out on the phone is a little much. Maybe I shouldn't have said she was insecure, paranoid, or crazy, but I didn't know she was listening. She shouldn't have spied on the conversation if she couldn't handle the things she might hear. Spying on a conversation between your boyfriend and his gal friend is obviously a little "not normal", and there is definitely a trust issue there in which I am not the cause.

posted August 26, 2010 02:42 PM         

in a way, I think that it could be normal behavior with women that are very territorial

A lot of women are nosy
same with men

I could understand her spying on the conversation. If she is a woman that is very jealous and possessive, has some trust issues in connection to some type of betrayal by men in the past, and she doesn't believe in friendships with the opposite sex while in a relationship, then I could see why she would spy on a conversation that her boyfriend has with another woman. An imagination of a woman like that can get a bit overactive along with the suspicions.

I am very sure if you keep talking about her in a bad way to your friend and if you talk bad to her, she will probably give you the impression that she's crazier than you think.

I am very sure that the things that you said about her even fuel her desire for her boyfriend to sever his friendship with you. She obviously doesn't trust you one bit. The things that you said about her just adds to her distrust.

If she knew that you were posting stuff about her on this forum, asking about what in her astrological natal chart indicates her being a paranoid,crazy,and insane woman, she probably want to cuss you out and kick your butt.

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No..I am not a Virgo.

posted August 26, 2010 03:12 PM         

Glaucus, I'm sure she wants to kick my butt now, even without knowing I've posted her chart. LOL. I've left out about 80% of the conversation that happened between her and I, which mostly consisted of her screaming like the Exorcist girl.

Maybe she is just being territorial. Let me re-phrase then, her "behavior" was crazy, paranoid, and insecure. Since I don't know her, I don't know if she's that way all the time. But from what I experienced, that's how she was. Honestly, if a girl called me paranoid, crazy, psycho, I would not react like she did. She insulted me for about 80% of that conversation, telling me I was desperate, my ex-husband was right to divorce me, I was a B----, and even went as far to say I was a bad mother and she felt sorry for my child. I think that's a lot worse and I never lost my temper or raised my voice to her once. But hey, to each their own right?

posted August 26, 2010 03:20 PM         

I say let it go ~ he will soon wise up and drop her and realize that you are are a real friend, true, honorable and mature.

Sometimes when people behave so irrationally and ridiculous, it's best to let them make a scene of themself and let them go on their merry way.

posted August 26, 2010 03:24 PM         

Did she say those things to you before or after the things that you said about her to your friend?

I am curious

and.....well....I am not judge about how people act. she might have acted on 100 percent raw emotion, and if she reacted to it in response to what you said about her, then she might have been said that stuff out of combination of anger,pain,vindictiveness, and wanting to hurt you in response to her feeling that you hurt by the things that you said about her.

I have blasted people for talking smack to me. I cussed them out.

She sounds like my mom who has quite a temper.

She shouldn't have judged you in regards to you as a mother.

She shouldn't have gone there.

It seems like your friend is caught in the between the two of you and her. He loves his girlfriend and he greatly values your friendship. It seems like he is going to have to make a choice.
I don't see how he can keep both you and her in his life with the way things are going to between you and her. Something is going to give.

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No..I am not a Virgo.

posted August 26, 2010 03:27 PM         

Nephthys, I completely agree!

posted August 26, 2010 03:52 PM         

I have strong water in my chart, Sun,Mercury,Venus in Scorpio and Moon in Pisces. I am indeed highly emotional, and I can admit that I can get upset easily and overreact to situations. My mom is lot worse than I am with her Ascendant,Mercury,Venus,Jupiter,Uranus in Cancer along with Moon and Saturn in Scorpio.

I can understand a person that gets easily upset and overreacts. If somebody acted that way towards me, I know that I would respond to it in the way that they did towards me. That's probably because of absorbing their emotional state. If am in argument with somebody, I can go on and on yelling and cussing being more upset and things escalating because I am feeding off unconsciously. I see this especially with my mother. When she and I argue, things get too intense with her ending up hitting me. She and I fed off each other's emotions so we get more emotionally charged while we argue. This mainly happened in my teens. Her Mercury in Cancer squares my Uranus in Libra with 7 minutes of arc. I also think that her Moon in Scorpio conjunct my Mercury in Scorpio with 30 minutes of arc wasn't all that great because it could easily mean that what I say greatly affects her for better or worse like her angering her easily with words that I say.

When I am no longer around people that I have argued with, I I often feel ashamed,embarrassed,and remorseful after acting irrationally.

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posted August 26, 2010 03:58 PM         

Anyway, back to your person, venus in scorpio could make someone this way. She has t. venus/mars on her pluto and maybe moon, which may be the aggravator for right now.

posted August 26, 2010 04:32 PM         

What kind of guy wants to stay/be with someone like that?

I highly, highly doubt he will stay with her.............

It's not YOU, it's any female that he is friends with, she will find a way to put any and all females down.........

In the meantime enjoy every minute of your life, and trust in the Universe

posted August 26, 2010 04:41 PM         

That is sad. I didn't know they were talking marriage. There's really nothing you can do, though.

What's his chart like?

Racole,

posted August 26, 2010 05:03 PM         

you may have lost his friendship and you may not have. this particular scene will probably not be the last, and after a while he may realize it was not you she was upset by but herself...though there are some men who are flattered by this kind of possessiveness and don't see it as insecurity, do you think he is one of them?

glaucus is right, without the birthtime especially a chart with such a tight shape is dubious to say the least. the moon could be 6 degrees either way and the houses are all in question...the other planetary relationships, and especially the synastry between their planets, could be worked but it's really a non-chart at this point.

posted August 26, 2010 05:04 PM         

Diana, he is a beautiful Virgo, with lots of Libra.