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posted November 06, 2010 02:27 PM         

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What in someone's chart would show a short life lived? Maybe dying at middle age?

Let's take this person for example because I think...

He has Taurus ASC
An intercepted 6th house with Libra falling into the abyss. Planets he has in Libra are his Sun and Mercury, plus Vertex, and tons of other objects. Sun rules his 5th house, Mercury rules his 2nd,3rd,6th houses...

What is most intense, His

Venus (Chart Ruler) 13 Virgo in 5th house
Mars 14 Virgo in 5th house
Uranus 14 Sagittarius in 8th house
Chiron Gemini 14 in 2nd house

I can see that he may be a victim to an unexpected death... Or maybe something related to his lungs due to the Libra planets in the 6th house. But most of all, that intense configuration involving Chiron is no joke. This person was made for giving pain and getting it. And the severe kind of pain too, the ones involving death.

IDK, I have just felt that, this person has caused me so much pain, and the other day, something happened and it made me realize that he may not live that long in life. and this made me feel, I hate to say it, but JUSTICE. I can honestly say that he has caused me so much pain, that the only way I can be reimbursed for that, if if he came to me ten years down the road, sick, and scared. Knowing I would be there for him. But I would already be married, but the love would still be there because it's a soul mate love.

Makes pefect since, my Venus is at 14 Gemini (and is my chart ruler), on his Chiron. And I died in a past life, I left him. In this life, he hurts me, and he will hurt me even more, when his time comes. I feel he will leave me.

I forgot to mention, his Moon 24 Taurus is conjunct my Jupiter at 25 Taurus in my 8th house! 8th HOUSE!

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posted November 06, 2010 02:29 PM         

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i dont know anything about when *I'll* die, but my chart indicated that i'll lose my father and gain an inheritance....my dad died 9 years ago and now my grandfather is really sick and has me on a living trust fund

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posted November 06, 2010 02:45 PM         

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Not to be a dick but there's too sides of every coin and it'd be interesting to hear his take on the relationship. No one's chart is SOLELY made to give and receive pain.

Is this the same guy that you wanted a baby with?

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posted November 06, 2010 02:48 PM         

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His coin is F***.
He is a bad person. He uses people. He doesn't believe in God. He has nasty addictions and habits. And he will never be one to get married and live a happy life. It's not written in his stars!

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posted November 06, 2010 02:50 PM         

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It could be a heart attack with the 5th house emphasis.

Libra also rules the kidneys.

Virgo rules lungs, eyes, part of the liver, and pancreas. Virgo could also rule the testicles since it rules body parts that are pairs.

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posted November 06, 2010 02:57 PM         

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I'm telling you guys, its death that will characterize this relationship. DEEP.

Even the composite chat ruler (the MOON) is in the 8th house and it's at 16 Pisces directly aspecting his configuration.

Same with the Davison which shows how a relationship unfolds, there is Venus conjunct Neptune squaring the NN.

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posted November 06, 2010 03:01 PM         

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Uh, be careful you don't kill him.

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posted November 06, 2010 03:02 PM         

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LOLs, Diana....considering the new moon and all of his 8th house placements it might just end up that way

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posted November 06, 2010 03:03 PM         

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I can tell, which is why I mentioned it. You need to not see him. It's your choice what you do. Don't choose murder.

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posted November 06, 2010 03:04 PM         

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death or revenge....ever seen "diary of a mad black woman"? i love it "RIP IT!!!"

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posted November 06, 2010 03:06 PM         

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That was my question, Amwols.
You seemed like you totally loved him before, Rasberri.
I know, with my guy, I could NEVER hurt him or wish ill on him.
Even if we do not work out, I want everything good for him.
Not to be a goody two shoes but that is real love.
I have to be honest and say that it is one of the first times I have had real love.
Most of my loves before were selfish cuz of my own maturity level.
I am not that good ,now, either ,but I want the best for him no matter what happens with him and me.

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posted November 06, 2010 03:12 PM         

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Lol.

No, I won't kill him. But I feel like he wants to kill me.
Karma.

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posted November 06, 2010 03:15 PM         

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"I can honestly say that he has caused me so much pain, that the only way I can be reimbursed for that"
Reimbursed for pain? You're kidding.

"and he will hurt me even more, when his time comes."
What, when he dies?

"I feel he will leave me."
Yea that sounds about right. Get someone better for you.

"He doesn't believe in God."
Oh nooo haha. A lot of good people don't believe in God.

"It's not written in his stars!"
Wow. I'd hate for you to be an astrologer.

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Nicki,
"but my chart indicated that i'll lose my father and gain an inheritance"
Yea my chart showed this too, but nope he's still around. Otoh I have a lot more markers for my mother's death (she died middle age), and that did happen while i was young.

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posted November 06, 2010 03:15 PM         

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RIP IT!!!!!!!!

hehe, revenge is a b!tch

.....my pluto is comin out...ya'll done made my evil demon come out

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posted November 06, 2010 03:15 PM         

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You kno what Ami, I am really not in the mood for your stuff right now. You have no idea what I'm going through, and as anyone with two cents knows, of course I love this person. You think I can feel this much anger for someone I don't love.

I am seriously not in the mood. This anger is much more than you can ever know or feel so don't even for one min try to judge me because you don't know who I am or what I'm going through.

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posted November 06, 2010 03:17 PM         

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Lonake, what is your goal, exactly?

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posted November 06, 2010 03:18 PM         

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OK, it just sounded scary but I will butt out if you don't like my advice on things.
No problem.
I am sorry you are hurting and hope it gets resolved soon and in the best way possible for YOU.
I will not comment any more, Rasperri.

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posted November 06, 2010 03:18 PM         

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posted November 06, 2010 03:21 PM         

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Yes it does sound scary doesn't it?

I can see that ten years down the line, my Progressed ASC will be at 9 Scorpio exactly conjunct my Natal Pluto in the first house. My Progressed Sun will be at 9 Leo.

His Natal SN is at 9 Scorpio in the 7th house. His Progressed ASC will be at 14 Gemini; BINGO.

And yes, reimbursment for pain caused by someone when I never deserved it. Everyone thinks about that. Everyone.

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posted November 06, 2010 03:27 PM         

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And Ami,

When I think of what can actually make this balanced, it would have to be something as dramatic as him dying and feeling that pain beforehand, knowing he was going to die, feeling guilty and alone and finding me and telling me.

That is what it would have to be. I may sound like a bad person for saying that, but there is beauty in this connection and it's that Venus/Chiron conjunction. There is no love like this.

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posted November 06, 2010 03:29 PM         

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Well, we ALL wish ill on people who hurt us. It is true. As long as we never act out on it.

If you are close to acting out on anything, talk to someone.
Everyone is capable of everything, I think, given the right set of circumstances.

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posted November 06, 2010 03:31 PM         

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IF you went through this,Rasperri, you resonated with it, SOMEHOW.
That is the key to discern not hatred of him beyond normal hatred

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posted November 06, 2010 03:31 PM         

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No I'm not going to literally kill him. Are we in the special olympics here?

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