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Topic: Significance of a planet conjunct a house intercept in SR
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Predominantlyfire Knowflake Posts: 390 From: Bipolarland (Lindaland) Registered: Dec 2009
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posted November 08, 2010 06:35 AM
With specific reference to Saturn in my next one coming up. Yes i have Venus in 8th which bodes well for those matters, but is Saturn manifesting in a 7th or 8th house way here, or both? What does it mean in SR 7th? What does it mean conjunct 7th / 8th intercept? What is the significance of house intercepts compared to houses themselves? Any other (intelligent insightful) comments and observations welcomed. Thanks. ------------------ Lack of Earth - Lack of bu11shit. IP: Logged |
Predominantlyfire Knowflake Posts: 390 From: Bipolarland (Lindaland) Registered: Dec 2009
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posted November 08, 2010 01:09 PM
bttt------------------ Lack of Earth - Lack of bu11shit. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 2227 From: South of France Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 08, 2010 01:10 PM
I think the only one who would attempt this is IQ ------------------ Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend. IP: Logged |
Peri Knowflake Posts: 1808 From: 49N35 34E34 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 08, 2010 01:15 PM
If it is also positively aspected by natal planets it may mean stabilization in matters ruled by both 7th and 8th houses.IP: Logged |
Coffee Knowflake Posts: 1029 From: Leeds Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 08, 2010 02:43 PM
Use whole sign house system. There should be NO intercepted houses using this house system.Using whole sign, Saturn is in house 9, with Venus in house 10. A planet at the start and end of a house is very meaningless. Zero degrees is like an Aries planet - new and fresh. Twenty-nine degrees is like a Pisces planet - ending. You interpret a planet as being in the house it is in. Not a bit on one, a lot in another. THERE ARE NO INTERCEPTIONS IN ASTROLOGY. Just bad astrology teachers. To interpret a SOLAR return, look to which house Leo rules in your chart. The SOLAR return will tell you about all matters relating to that house. Not a general prediction tool. IP: Logged |
racole12 Knowflake Posts: 727 From: the world is my home! Registered: Feb 2010
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posted November 08, 2010 05:42 PM
I was wondering the same things PDF. Our SR return charts are about the same- only thing different is that my SR ASC is at the end of Aquarius... IP: Logged |
raspberri Knowflake Posts: 1296 From: venus Registered: Jan 2010
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posted November 08, 2010 05:54 PM
I Think equal house systems, even whole house systems are very accurate. IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 3254 From: Bay Area, CA Registered: May 2009
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posted November 08, 2010 06:03 PM
"THERE ARE NO INTERCEPTIONS IN ASTROLOGY. Just bad astrology teachers."So what, if you have intercepted houses then you should use Equal/Whole sign for reading charts, Coffee? IP: Logged |
raspberri Knowflake Posts: 1296 From: venus Registered: Jan 2010
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posted November 08, 2010 06:05 PM
I think it's the placidus house system that is responsible for the interceptions, not the astrologers.IP: Logged |
Predominantlyfire Knowflake Posts: 390 From: Bipolarland (Lindaland) Registered: Dec 2009
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posted November 08, 2010 06:25 PM
Should i use equal for SR's then? ------------------ Lack of Earth - Lack of bu11shit. IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 3254 From: Bay Area, CA Registered: May 2009
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posted November 08, 2010 06:27 PM
Might be good since the houses look kind of wonky.IP: Logged |
raspberri Knowflake Posts: 1296 From: venus Registered: Jan 2010
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posted November 08, 2010 06:29 PM
^haha!IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 5079 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 08, 2010 06:30 PM
Use whole house. Coffee you are so wise! I'm interested in why you only look to the DC ruler in SR coffee? IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 3254 From: Bay Area, CA Registered: May 2009
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posted November 08, 2010 06:31 PM
Do you have any ill family members, pdf? IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 3254 From: Bay Area, CA Registered: May 2009
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posted November 08, 2010 06:33 PM
Might be that only angles matter, Lara? Also I've noticed clustering of planets in SRs to be really accurate of the themes played out for the year. IP: Logged |
Predominantlyfire Knowflake Posts: 390 From: Bipolarland (Lindaland) Registered: Dec 2009
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posted November 09, 2010 03:58 AM
quote: Do you have any ill family members, pdf?
Yes, what makes you ask? ------------------ Lack of Earth - Lack of bu11shit. IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 5079 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 09, 2010 05:13 AM
Careful PDF, MVM has EARTH in her chart - she might be bu11shitting MVM, yeah only angles and sun/moon MP matter really.
PDF, where is your sun/moon MP. Check SR to that too. IP: Logged |
popcorn Knowflake Posts: 1561 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted November 09, 2010 05:36 AM
I think it best to be quiet ..I've much in earth tooIP: Logged |
Predominantlyfire Knowflake Posts: 390 From: Bipolarland (Lindaland) Registered: Dec 2009
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posted November 09, 2010 10:37 AM
quote: MVM, yeah only angles and sun/moon MP matter really.
So you just randomly brought up the natal Sun Moon midpoint without really looking at the SR posted above did you? Did you f***. Saturn sits at 14 degrees Libra, My 'midpoint' would be 16 degrees Libra. You know, this is why i mainly come on here just to take the pi$$. Everytime a thread gets posted you never get the answers to the question. You get personal viewpoints and biased off-topic discussion. Is the advanced astrology section any different? Because i just find the main forum is for beginner's-level fence-sitters. People like IQ come across as intelligent i s'pose, but even he justs put an esoteric kind of over-emphasis on asteroids and obscure aspects, which is more aimed at 'impressing' people who are more main stream than actually delivering the true answer to the original person asking a genuine question. ------------------ Lack of Earth - Lack of bu11shit. IP: Logged |
Predominantlyfire Knowflake Posts: 390 From: Bipolarland (Lindaland) Registered: Dec 2009
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posted November 09, 2010 10:41 AM
quote: Use whole sign house system. There should be NO intercepted houses using this house system. Using whole sign, Saturn is in house 9, with Venus in house 10.A planet at the start and end of a house is very meaningless. Zero degrees is like an Aries planet - new and fresh. Twenty-nine degrees is like a Pisces planet - ending. You interpret a planet as being in the house it is in. Not a bit on one, a lot in another. THERE ARE NO INTERCEPTIONS IN ASTROLOGY. Just bad astrology teachers. To interpret a SOLAR return, look to which house Leo rules in your chart. The SOLAR return will tell you about all matters relating to that house. Not a general prediction tool.
Coffee that's the best attempt at answering the question so far. It's clear you've considered what is being asked, have an intuitive understanding of the point being raised, and you actually posit a real response. ------------------ Lack of Earth - Lack of bu11shit. IP: Logged |
amowls* Knowflake Posts: 1800 From: richmond va Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 09, 2010 10:56 AM
You need to post a solar return/natal comparison WITH HOUSES because you compare your SR to your natal chart. That is how you read a solar return.Or you could google/go to another forum since you hate the answers you get here. I don't understand why you keep coming back. IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 6820 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 09, 2010 11:11 AM
Lara,"yeah only angles and sun/moon MP matter really" Are you really serious about this? I mean of course angles are very important, and I also like to check the Sun/moon mp. But in my experience it is important to detect the pattern in a chart. I then find angles (and houses) to be very enlightening to see how and where this pattern manifests. IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 6820 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 09, 2010 11:19 AM
PDF,Saturn is so close to 8th house cusp and in equal system is already in 8th house, that I think it might dominantly manifest in an 8th house kind of way. Of cousre if you use Whole Sign houses, which I donīt, it would be in 9th house already. Anyway, I have not experienced planets of intercepted houses to be anymore hidden or weaker than others. If I use Placidus, Jupiter is in my intercepted 3rd house, and he definitely is NOT hidden there. quite obvious actually.
If a planet is very close to a housecusp, it might act as if it is "in the frame of the door", somehow very tightly interlinking both houses with each other, or if he can`t integrate that well, he might be switching between both areas (in this case 7th and 8th house).
both houses have to do with relationships obviously, but the 7th house is the more contact-oriented, while in 8th house the relationship deepens so much (if you allow it to), that you might even share the taxes with each other. the 8th house is about principles and commitment. What does Saturn want to tell you there? relationships will be very important for you. But will you be courageous enough to let someone come really close to you and allow that kind of commitment(Saturn in 8th house)? Or will you jump back into the 7th house and to avoid getting in that deep, will you block even mere contacts? Or maybe everything I wrote there was crap. Who knows?
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Predominantlyfire Knowflake Posts: 390 From: Bipolarland (Lindaland) Registered: Dec 2009
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posted November 09, 2010 11:22 AM
DD that was an intelligent attempt at an answer. Thanks. ------------------ Lack of Earth - Lack of bu11shit. IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 6820 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 09, 2010 11:30 AM
You`re welcome.IP: Logged |