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bluegreyeyes
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posted March 28, 2011 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluegreyeyes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am wondering what aspect would cause a person to never "end" a relationship, but rather, just gradually stop contacting the other person.

I was thinking off the men I've dated or been in relationships with, even some friends... and I cannot remember EVER consciously ending a relationship. I've never broken up with a man, but rather, we just get distant and go our separate ways. No hard feelings, no drama... just "that was fun, things have changed, now it's over, good luck to you" sorta endings. Even with friends who I was very close with, we just peacefully move on.

I still think of these people fondly but just never felt so strongly that I wanted to fight to continue the relationship.

Would it be my aqua sun?

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fairaqua
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posted March 28, 2011 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fairaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it would be the Aqua sun. We kind of secretly leave relationships with no given reason. Move on very easy like it was nothing..

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GrlyGirl20
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posted March 28, 2011 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I actually don't think its any aspect that does that. To me that's just life. I'm a Cancer and that happens to me ALL the time (but then again I have Sun/Mars Uranus aspects, Venus in the 11th, and IC Uranus...so that could be it). I don't have drama with people alot of the time things take over and you just sorta stop hanging out with people especially if life separates you (as in get a new job, schedule changes, etc). Even exes if there is drama (which usually with me it isnt drama...the guy is dramatic) I'm over it and ready to be your friend quickly...but then we just sort of drift apart...BUT stay facebook friends lol. And always I am strange I never really consider my (especially romantic) relationships significant after the fact. I always look to it as it just kinda was a fun thing that ended. Another thing is I just sorta stop calling people...again not due to boredom or being over it...I don't really know why I do that lol...it just sorta fades and then its over. And then can be picked up like nothing later when I spontaneously think of people lol.

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GrlyGirl20
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posted March 28, 2011 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I still think of these people fondly but just never felt so strongly that I wanted to fight to continue the relationship.

I do this as well. In fact I had a VERY close Virgo Sun Aries Moon friend, and a Gemini Sun and Pisces Moon friend as well...with both girls we were super close friends for about 5 years. And we just drifted apart. I didn't get mad at them...nothing. College ended and the Gemini moved away. The Virgo moved away as well. And I'm moving in a few months. So I don't know if it really is an aspect...more as life occurs. But I have never really fought to keep a relationship going either. The closest I did was with my Aqua ex...I was obsessed with being friends after us breaking up...as literally I am "friends" with ALL my exes and even hookups lol(and "friends" to me means we maybe are not close, but I do send a facebook message every once in a while to make sure they are well...and I retain good feelings for each of them despite the breakup or whatever occured may it be good or bad). The ony definite endings I have are when a guy is either being a butt and I'm done (but then I don't say anything), or I let the guy know I want out or want to just be friends...and then generally they delete me from facebook lol. This happend with a Gemini, Scorp, Pisces, and Aqua ex.

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posted March 28, 2011 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In composite;
-Definitely -Saturn conjunct ascendant- aspect..
-Pluto on Sun or Saturn.
-Sun in scorpio maybe taurus.
-Until you are healed, all south node and chiron conjuncts to other planets may help to maintain...

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posted March 28, 2011 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
to me that feels like Pisces/Neptune energy... just swimming away, going with the flow... I have Sun conj Neptune and I have left most of my relationships like that- romantic or even just friends...

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Quinnie
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posted March 28, 2011 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MertSerimer...."In composite;
-Definitely -Saturn conjunct ascendant- aspect..
-Pluto on Sun or Saturn.
-Sun in scorpio maybe taurus.
-Until you are healed, all south node and chiron conjuncts to other planets may help to maintain..."

That's interesting.I can see that in application with my relationships... Sometimes there is just a tie...like family or children etc........Other times it's a lifetime of learning one particular lesson that this person triggers or highlights.

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posted March 28, 2011 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure - But when I end something, I very clearly end it.
It must be the Capricorn in me - I feel like I'm breaking a contract and must do it formally LOL

I do stay friends with people - but if it's no longer romantic - I make that clear: "IT. IS. Over."

Otherwise the problem is - if you don't - they will keep calling and they'll waste their time and yours... The whole thing gets messy.

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posted March 28, 2011 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Strong Mercury,that would catch my eye.

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posted March 28, 2011 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Quinnie:
MertSerimer...."In composite;
-Definitely -Saturn conjunct ascendant- aspect..
-Pluto on Sun or Saturn.
-Sun in scorpio maybe taurus.
-Until you are healed, all south node and chiron conjuncts to other planets may help to maintain..."

That's interesting.I can see that in application with my relationships... Sometimes there is just a tie...like family or children etc........Other times it's a lifetime of learning one particular lesson that this person triggers or highlights.


By the way, in both of your natal charts, if there are strong influence of capri, taurus or maybe scorpio it can show as well.

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posted March 28, 2011 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It feels like Neptune/Pisces to me.

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posted March 29, 2011 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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It feels like Neptune/Pisces to me

I could see this. Pisces do drift in and out of relationships. They don't ever end anything...and then they pick up relationships later.

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In composite;
-Definitely -Saturn conjunct ascendant- aspect..
-Pluto on Sun or Saturn.
-Sun in scorpio maybe taurus.
-Until you are healed, all south node and chiron conjuncts to other planets may help to maintain...

MertSerimer:
Not to be rude...but this is VERY not true...at all. I'm not sure what your reading but this is def not true. In fact ANY Saturn aspect tends to make things very official and not tending to have things just sort of fade out. NEITHER does Pluto on the Sun...in fact Pluto on (or in aspect with the Sun) the composite again makes things official. And the last thing Pluto does is just let things fade away, there would end up being a LOT of game playing to make the person stay. Again Composite Sun in Scorpio or Taurus...does NOT let things go away...they are both fixed signs and while to a point passive (as they are feminine signs)...they don't make for one who will just let go easily and drift out of a relationship with no absolute.

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By the way, in both of your natal charts, if there are strong influence of capri, taurus or maybe scorpio it can show as well.


I DEF don't agree with this. And kind of wonder where have you seen this in others? I have strong Pluto in my chart...Capricorn...and Taurus in my chart and from what I've seen in others with these in their natal charts (or in the composite as you said above) I literally have never seen this. In fact I could see this more occuring in a mutable sign due to them literally going with the flow of things.

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posted March 29, 2011 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GrlyGirl20:

I DEF don't agree with this. And kind of wonder where have you seen this in others? I have strong Pluto in my chart...Capricorn...and Taurus in my chart and from what I've seen in others with these in their natal charts (or in the composite as you said above) I literally have never seen this. In fact I could see this more occuring in a mutable sign due to them literally going with the flow of things.

Many is quoted from Astro.com Just create a composite chart randomly and see what i mean when you have these combinations.

Strong influence of a sign Definitely DOES NOT MEAN the strong influence of sign's ruler as you mentioned. It means especially "Sun,Venus or Moon" being in these signs in PARTNER'S natal charts. İf someone with sun and Venus in taurus is in a relationship which is settled into good shape after several weeks or months, she/he probably may never want to leave the partner even if they have big fight.

Pluto creates obsession. Strong Pluto influence on weak personalities definitely will make it worse and aparting may become impossible.

Strong Saturn influence on a com chart, may indicate that many thing in relationship is restricted BUT ALSO you are restricted your partner . Saturn may show you that he/she is your only choice to solve challenges coming from Saturn.

Ofc you are not being rude. Trying to fix wrong informations are always good thing to do.

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posted March 29, 2011 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do this a lot, Pisces Sun which dissolves contact, and it's square to Uranus, plus Uranus/Neptune in my 5th and Aqua Dsc. Merc conj Dsc. I have strong Pluto and Saturn/Capricorn too.

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posted March 29, 2011 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Many is quoted from Astro.com Just create a composite chart randomly and see what i mean when you have these combinations.

MertSerimer I guess I am just kinda having a hard time wrapping my head around the info you are saying. I've seen those same interpretations and I never gathered that or ever saw them interpreted that way. For instance with the Saturn you are right...you may indeed restrict your partner...but also its very rare someone will leave until they sort out the issues if at all. There is major responsibility tied to relationships with Saturn...and it is needed in both synastry and composite in any form to make the relatioship a more permanent one (may it be good aspects or bad and minor or major aspects). That doesn't mean a relationship just gradually dissolves. Or strong Pluto does include obsessions...but again gradual fading away of things is not at all what Pluto does. Pluto tends to put up a fight between both parties, and play mind games in order to make the person stay. And usually what happens is the person ends things but never gradually...they'll make it known why they are leaving. For instance when you breakup and have Pluto important in either your synastry or Composite its very rare you'll be friends after due to the passion between the two of them. One person maybe mad at the other and hold a grudge etc. I'm also quoting you BM as your 8th house Moon makes you all or nothing lol.

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Strong influence of a sign Definitely DOES NOT MEAN the strong influence of sign's ruler as you mentioned. It means especially "Sun,Venus or Moon" being in these signs in PARTNER'S natal charts. İf someone with sun and Venus in taurus is in a relationship which is settled into good shape after several weeks or months, she/he probably may never want to leave the partner even if they have big fight

I have my own natal Venus in Taurus, natal Moon/DSC in Capricorn and Pluto/Saturn in Scorpio along with other Pluto aspects (Pluto aspects everyone of my personal planets), and in myself AND the people I know with these placements I've literally not seen what you said at all (and when I talk about placements I am also talking about Sun/Moon/Asc or Venus in either/or Taurus/Scorpio/Cap). In fact its just the opposite. These people if they ever leave relationships or let go did so for a reason. I've seen this with even the most fickle Gemini Sun with a Taurus placement.

I also have had both Taurus and Scorpio Sun or Moon in the composite along with the other aspects you listed (including Pluto Opp Sun in Composite) and Saturn Conjunct the Ascendant and in all my relationships with Taurus/Scorpio Sun or Moon in the Composite the relationships tended to not change and end. In fact quite the opposite...if it does end it isn't gradual and takes a long time. But for the most part the relationships were very slow to change if at all. For example when I have a Composite Sun in Taurus with someone chances are they are either a late Aqua or early Pisces Sun...and both signs can be known for not being so constant...with both of these signs they tend to be in it for the long haul. Maybe not all the time and with gaps in between but def for the long haul. I had an Aqua ex who literally refused to demote me from a gf to a friend. And I think partly this was due to the Composite Moon being in Taurus its slow to change if at all, and Composite Moon in Scorpio in the 8th which is all or nothing and doesn't include going from lover to friend.

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posted March 29, 2011 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I too am not understanding how saturn, pluto, or fixed signs would figure into this? Both influences would prefer things more *definite* then the lines blurring.

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posted March 29, 2011 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm still voting for Pisces/Neptune/Mutable... and I just don't understand how Saturn/Pluto and fixed signs would do this... to me, those would be all or nothing.

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posted March 29, 2011 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I too am not understanding how saturn, pluto, or fixed signs would figure into this? Both influences would prefer things more *definite* then the lines blurring.

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I'm still voting for Pisces/Neptune/Mutable... and I just don't understand how Saturn/Pluto and fixed signs would do this... to me, those would be all or nothing.

Thank you BM, and Racole. I thought it was just me going crazy lol. I thought the same thing, and also agree on how Pisces/Neptune/Mutable could be the culprit for this (although truth be told I really don't see Virgo being included in this though...the one's I've known in anything such as Sun/Moon or Venus are VERY clear in beginnings and endings, as far as the Rising and Mars I haven't actually seen this occur. Maybe due to the Rising being dependant upon your Mercury placement. And Mars is just how you go about things rather than something you actually need/how you are.

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posted March 29, 2011 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For me,relationships have definite endings.If it is going to go from romantic to friends,it will have a definite transition.
Whatever in the chart makes it fade away,*I* don't have

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